Come help me smack around these fools :)

[kingcobra]

Escape the nicotine prison, go from e-cigs to no-cigs\






Edit by classwife : I broke the live link.

[url]http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/media-general-news/272086-breaking-links-junk-science-other-rubbish-posts.html

 

[CES]

so, i agree that the page is full of misinformation. But, espeially since it's a thinly veiled ad, i don't want to drive any traffic to that page...i'd rather it sink to the bottom of the internet without a trace...

 

[John1952]

It's not even thinly veiled. It's a blatant scam, designed to appeal to stupid people. Did you see all of the other crap they're selling?

 

[Vocalek]

And there is just as much ignorance showing in some of the comments left.

My greatest concern with these types of e-cigs is, are they using nanotechnology? How are they creating this artificial smoke that lasts, and lasts, and lasts?

It does?

The thing is it is not nicotine that is killing people. It was all the additives put into cigarettes.

True, it isn't the nicotine that is killing people, but neither are the additives. Setting the tobacco on fire and inhaling the smoke is what's killing people.

It should be noted that the really cheap pre-filled cartridges; most of them from China, can contain diethylene glycol which is toxic. They do this because it's cheaper to manufacture than propylene glycol.

What's missing here is the understanding that diethylene glycol is a contaminant, not an ingredient. DEG can be present (usually in trace amounts) in glycerin and in propylene glycol. The FDA has published guidance for testing these substances for the presence of DEG.

Testing bulk or repackaged glycerin for DEG content is consistent with good manufacturing practice required under the Act.

For other components, such as propylene glycol, that in the past were found to be contaminated with DEG, precautions should also be taken to identify reliable suppliers and secure shipment to prevent similar occurrences.7
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7 The August 2, 1996, CDC Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report describes DEG-contamination of propylene glycol. The report is available at CDC - Redirect MMWR Weekly: Past Volumes (1982 - 2009). The TLC test mentioned in recommendation #1 will distinguish DEG from propylene glycol.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Drugs/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/Guidances/ucm070347.pdf

As far as I know, it isn't any cheaper to manufacture DEG than it is to manufacture PG; however it is cheaper to manufacture PG or to use PG from a bulk supplier in one's product intended for human consumption and fail to conduct testing for contaminants throughout the process.