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Steel

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You can ask to speak to an american. I always find it funny when an indian tells me their name is "Kevin". After asking them to repeat themselves twice, then I ask to speak to an american.


I believe the streets would be safer if you could only drive a motorcycle/scooter until you were age 21. That would also make more people take caution to two wheel drivers.

That's what we get for teaching our youth to get the best deal they can instead of buying american made quality. So as long as you keep buying from the big companies when they ship jobs overseas, they don't give a crap.

And I'm proposing that from now on, whenever you refer to a nickname of walmart, that it is now referred to as Chinamart instead. Oh yes, Sam would turn in his grave if he saw how they treated their employees and what it has done to this nations economy.

You can't blame the companies for that. The labor costs in the U.S. are so high that people wouldn't be able to afford these things. We are a developed enough country that we have no manufacturing base anymore, except for extremely high quality (and expensive) goods for those people seeking that sort of thing. We have gone to information as we should, since we are in the information age*. To revert back to a manufacturing society would mean we would need to lower standard of living and everything that entails.

* That's another grievance of mine. I hate it when i see some infomercial or something touting their product as using SPACE AGE TECHNOLOGYYYY!!! Wow! I want to use 50 year old tech! Want some space age fabric? Grab some velcro! Space age computer? Invest in vacuum tube companies, and get ready for a hell of a power bill...
 

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Todays pet peeve:

It seems so many people don't understand the difference between there, their and they're. When I see them used incorrectly, my personal bias pops up and I immediately think less of the person ( and I am the king of typos )

Some of you are guilty of this. So, here's some help for you.

How to use there, their and they're

For those having an especially hard time with it, here's some worksheets for you!

Worksheets


In fact, here's a quote from the ECF store:

These are great for introducing people to electronic cigarettes....AND THERE FREE.

So even people I completely respect can make mistakes. Sometimes, it's a spellchecker that jumps in. But, man, it bothers me!

Another one is when someone spells lose as loose. Like fingernails on a chalkboard.
 

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So even people I completely respect can make mistakes. Sometimes, it's a spellchecker that jumps in. But, man, it bothers me!

This is beating a dead horse, you know. May as well go shout it into the wind. It's been
brought up time and time (and time and time) again, and the usual answers (from offenders)
include:
...they do not care what you think of them
...you KNOW what they were saying, so why the fuss
...a life - get one (while they are playing Wii)
...times now are not as "formal" as they were in the past
...blah blah blah

...Because a little self-improvement is too much like work, regardless of the words put around it.

Even though the chance is miniscule at best, here's a place that may be able to help:

Common Errors in English Usage
 

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It seems so many people don't understand the difference between there, their and they're.
I agree in thinking that confusion should not even be allowed to exist. The English language is horrible. Too many rules, exceptions, homonyms, homophones, etc. 26 print letters in the English alphabet + 26 double identity letters (as capitals) + double that for cursive. 104 letters for each child to learn, on top of the words spelled the same with different pronunciations and meanings (ex: read) and words that sound the same and spelled differently (caret, carrot, carat). You would think in this information age (as Steel said) that the world could collectively develop an easy to learn and use language for everyone that would increase the productivity and learning speed of children. It would only take a couple generations to fade out all the other languages. Science worldwide agreed to use the metric system (except for the US for some stupid reason). Language should not need to be a barrier to learning or communicating at this point.

And since I'm there....what happened to Swatch Internet Time aka Beat Time? Swatch had a great idea that I've always loved (even before they came up with it). One time for the whole universe, not 24 different time "zones" for each planet. I mean really? Right here, right now as you read these words, the time is NOW. No matter where you are in the world, the moon, another planet, or space itself, the time is NOW. No wonder children have so much to learn. It is stupid to teach a kid the time is 8:27am, but only in this strip of the planet. It is a different time on the other side of the planet. What time is it on Mars? But wait, which strip of Mars because apparently time is irrelevant to how people use it. Have you ever thought about how we would even explain the current time concept to aliens should we ever get a chance to actually communicate with them? That concept right there would confirm to them that we are infantile in our planet and development. I may go to work at @900 beat time, same as someone else on the other side of the planet, great. If we want to call each other, we do not have to do math to figure out what two different times equal the SAME time.

Until we can pass these two giant barriers holding us back, we will not surpass the information age.
 
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SilverBear

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Until we can pass these two giant barriers holding us back, we will not surpass the information age.

An alphabet, various languages and time zones are not quite "giant barriers" to understanding (as an example)
the difference between "there", "their" and "they're". That lack of BASIC understanding is a symptom of a
much greater problem. Let's really think back - but not too far (because it's not necessary) - as to when this
deterioration began.
 

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Speaking of the English language, a friend of mine sent me the following email. It was titled "We don't have to press '1' for English":

I'll bet that only people whose first language is English can read this correctly the first time.



1) The bandage was wound around the wound.
2) The farm was used to produce produce.
3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
4) We must polish the Polish furniture.
5) He could lead if he would get the lead out.

6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present.
8) At the Army base, a bass was painted on the head of a bass drum.
9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
10) I did not object to the object.

11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
13) They were too close to the door to close it.
14) The buck does funny things when the does are present.
15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.

16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
18) After a number of Novocain injections, my jaw got number.
19) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.
20) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.

21) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?
22) I spent last evening evening out a pile of dirt.
 

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This is beating a dead horse, you know. May as well go shout it into the wind. It's been
brought up time and time (and time and time) again, and the usual answers (from offenders)
include:
...they do not care what you think of them
...you KNOW what they were saying, so why the fuss
...a life - get one (while they are playing Wii)
...times now are not as "formal" as they were in the past
...blah blah blah

...Because a little self-improvement is too much like work, regardless of the words put around it.

Even though the chance is miniscule at best, here's a place that may be able to help:

Common Errors in English Usage

Too true.

However, I owned a bakery for several years. The applications I saw were horrendous. Things may not be as formal as they once were, but the mistakes people make now and then pass off as "it's your problem" are outrageous. I actually got an application with no phone number and no address on it. The person came in two weeks later asking why I hadn't contacted them. :facepalm:
 

Stephaniems

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Too funny the English language is so crazy.

Speaking of the English language, a friend of mine sent me the following email. It was titled "We don't have to press '1' for English":

I'll bet that only people whose first language is English can read this correctly the first time.



1) The bandage was wound around the wound.
2) The farm was used to produce produce.
3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.
4) We must polish the Polish furniture.
5) He could lead if he would get the lead out.

6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.
7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present.
8) At the Army base, a bass was painted on the head of a bass drum.
9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.
10) I did not object to the object.

11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid.
12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
13) They were too close to the door to close it.
14) The buck does funny things when the does are present.
15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.

16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
18) After a number of Novocain injections, my jaw got number.
19) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear.
20) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.

21) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?
22) I spent last evening evening out a pile of dirt.
 

SilverBear

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Too funny the English language is so crazy.

It's only "crazy" if somebody did not pay attention in school. Even thought I do not know any
other languages, English can NOT be the ONLY one with "craziness".

I wonder what color ribbon will be assigned for the affliction of not being to READ and
COMPREHEND due to laziness or "like, whatever"-ness. It's MUCH easier to just ignore the
problem than it is to FIX it. It just frosts my ....
 

Steel

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It's only "crazy" if somebody did not pay attention in school. Even thought I do not know any
other languages
, English can NOT be the ONLY one with "craziness".

Therin lies the problem. How can you make a comparison if you have no basis from which to make it? English is easy for native english speakers because it's what we grew up with, duh. Most other languages are much easier for non-native speakers to learn than English. Words are said how their spelled and spelled how their said. English is a pretty "crazy" language because for every 'rule' there is a plethora of exceptions, and that's what screws non-native speakers up.
 

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I have a couple of tattoos and I HATE it when complete strangers feel like they can just walk up to me w/o asking and touch me - especially when I'm not looking and they just sneak up on you like a freakin ninja and stroke my arm or back and go "OOoooh that's nice where did you get it?" .... Last time I checked I didn't get a tattoo that says "Please touch me here!" ~ That's all.

EW! It would TOTALLY creep me out if a complete stranger just started stroking my skin. Unless they were REALLY attractive!!!
 

Heatherport

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I work part time in an "internet cafe", you know, where you can play "promotional games" and win money.
Well, I hate it when you have people that come in, play, and walk out with $500 bucks, then come in the next day and ..... because they aren't winning. You hear the same thing over and over. "Boy, these machines are tight. Better loosen 'em up or people will stop coming here". It's like they expect to walk out with money every time they play. I get sick of hearing it.
People, when you go into those kinds of places, don't expect to win EVERY TIME! If you are not willing to part with your money, DON'T PLAY!
Vegas isn't Vegas cuz everybody wins.
These people also have no comment for when they ARE winning. Only when they lose.
I'm done....................:toast:

Oh man. I don't play those things EVER because I assume NO ONE EVER wins. Sheesh. I'd be jumping up and done if I won $500 then I would NEVER PLAY IT AGAIN!!!
 

tj1100cl

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I just wanted to start a new thread to have a place to just ..... about stuff that irritates you.

great idea! i needed a place to say this:


1. STOP TELLING NOOBS TO "GET AN EGO" when they are asking a question about a specific model. Give information on the model asked about.

2. DON'T ANSWER A QUESTION IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THE ANSWER FROM EXPERIENCE.

i cannot stand it when someone asks a valid question about some particular thing, and the first half dozen responses are from people who have no experience with said thing. If you don't have the information requested, don't offer useless substitute information. What good is that? Either refer someone to another source, or just skip to a question that you ARE experienced with. Otherwise the OP gets a dozen useless answers, and the person WITH A USEFUL REPLY may not read through to see the question hasn't been answered, and skips it over.

ok. i feel better. thank you for the opportunity. =)
 

tj1100cl

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I wonder what color ribbon will be assigned for the affliction of not being to READ and
COMPREHEND due to laziness or "like, whatever"-ness.

where i live, it's THIS color:
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