Compulsive chain vaping affecting lungs

[ukeman]

I think the excessive amount of heat to the lungs not to mention the chemicals, can do damage to the lining of the lungs.
This can aggravate respiratory conditions ie. bronchitis, asthma.

- some of us are compulsive / addictive types (having been smokers for years as well) and I am pretty sure chain vaping will have a cumulative effect.

just my opinion. it may be obvious but I've never seen much mention of this in my 4 years of vaping and reading ecf.

Any comments?

 

[TyPie]

Uhhhhh.......turn down the heat?
And, if I may, what chemicals are we talkin' 'bout here? PG? VG? Nicotine? H2O?

I'm no doctor, chemist, or scientist, (I did pass Physics with flying colors though......heh.....) but I doubt that these are harmful at all. Flavorings? I am anxiously awaiting the results of studies confirming (or not) the safety of vaporized flavorings and any chemicals within. I also doubt that these will present much of a problem unless vaped in huge, inhuman quantities.

Gotta believe also that compulsive water consumption in inhuman quantities is also likely to cause problems eventually, no??

Turn it DOWN a few notches, and vape in moderation, I think.

 

[ukeman]

exactly... that's the obvious answer afaik.

just saying again, that many too many smokers addictive types (myself included) tend to get carried away with some things (substances, hobbies, etc) and in the case of vaping and sub ohms vaping, I'd imagine we would see some harm.
I just don't see anyone copping to that ... aside from myself here.

That's why I'm writing about it.
I know its a lot safer than cigarette addiction, but in my case, when i quit smoking about 4 yrs. ago, I took to vaping like a fish out of water.
Like anything else, there will be abuses.

Uhhhhh.......turn down the heat?
And, if I may, what chemicals are we talkin' 'bout here? PG? VG? Nicotine? H2O?

I'm no doctor, chemist, or scientist, (I did pass Physics with flying colors though......heh.....) but I doubt that these are harmful at all. Flavorings? I am anxiously awaiting the results of studies confirming (or not) the safety of vaporized flavorings and any chemicals within. I also doubt that these will present much of a problem unless vaped in huge, inhuman quantities.

Gotta believe also that compulsive water consumption in inhuman quantities is also likely to cause problems eventually, no??

Turn it DOWN a few notches, and vape in moderation, I think.

 

[Katmar]

I think the excessive amount of heat to the lungs not to mention the chemicals, can do damage to the lining of the lungs.
This can aggravate respiratory conditions ie. bronchitis, asthma.

- some of us are compulsive / addictive types (having been smokers for years as well) and I am pretty sure chain vaping will have a cumulative effect.

just my opinion. it may be obvious but I've never seen much mention of this in my 4 years of vaping and reading ecf.

Any comments?

You may think that, but it doesn't make it true. Do you have any scientific articles to back it up? If not, I would suggest you NOT try to scare people. Since it has NOT been mentioned in your 4 years of vaping, chances are it hasn't happened. If you have a concern for yourself, by all means, go and get checked out. Perhaps that will give you some peace of mind. You have to remember that an opinion is not a fact, but some folks may see it as such, so be careful.

Having said that, I am sure you mean no harm.... and I LOVE your dog!!!!

 

[supertrunker]

I doubt it's anything like the temperature of a lit cigarette since our juice vapourises far lower than this.
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae1.cfm

T

 

[TyPie]

I think I getcha, Ukeman.
There are the types that, when they dive in, they REALLY dive all the way IN. Whole hog. Non-stop. ALL or NOTHING.
(Ahhhhh....those were the days!)

I didn't mean to trivialize your thought at all. I just recall the expression that goes something like.......'anything in a large enough quantity will kill ya'......... (that's not the quote, exactly, but it goes something like that.) I think I may have finally learned.........'everything in moderation'.

Just be careful if you need to go heavy!

 

[dragonpuff]

I think the excessive amount of heat to the lungs not to mention the chemicals, can do damage to the lining of the lungs.
This can aggravate respiratory conditions ie. bronchitis, asthma.

- some of us are compulsive / addictive types (having been smokers for years as well) and I am pretty sure chain vaping will have a cumulative effect.

just my opinion. it may be obvious but I've never seen much mention of this in my 4 years of vaping and reading ecf.

Any comments?

Vaping produces a very low heat actually, about 50-60 degrees celsius, whereas the heat from a lit cigarette is more like 400 degrees. It doesn't take much heat to vaporize a liquid. There has been some evidence that cranking up the voltage real high on a battery will heat the liquid enough to produce concerning levels of carbonyls (i.e. formaldehyde), but these tests were done using a smoking machine - the conditions under which the testing was conducted were something that no actual vaper would replicate in casual use. In the end, tests are showing the heat produced when vaping is relatively safe.

Respiratory conditions can be aggravated by inhaling vaporized PG, but when this happens the vaper is aware of it (he'll have symptoms) and can therefore change to VG or quit if he chooses. Some flavors can be irritating as well but again, the vaper will know.

Many people have been on this forum for 5 years or more and are not reporting any major adverse effects from long term vaping. It is possible that it could lead to minor respiratory issues over a very long time (say, 20 years), but this still pales dramatically to all the problems caused by cigarette smoke over time, so it is still a much safer alternative. Realistically speaking, e-cigs are so new there simply hasn't been enough time to determine the long term effects (although the lack of long term studies is being held up high by some as a "good" reason to ban them, and I don't think anyone here would agree with that...). Long term use of nicotine is well documented, however, and has been approved by the FDA; as far as we know there are no major long term consequences of that, but it is hard to say given that most studies on nicotine have been done on smokers.

So live strong and vape on you've got nothing to worry about.