Concerns on the reports of lungs collapsing due to smoking and vaping

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WhiteHighlights

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DrCupCake, FYI, we have a rule here about breaking links to junk science. The smokefree dot gov site meets that criteria, as you noted it's BS! Please go back and edit your post to do that.

Regarding lung function improvement, there was a study done, albeit a small one, Dr. Polosa, Italian vapor and tobacco expert, reviews e-cigs in BMC Medicine - American Council on Science and Health (ACSH)

Among people with asthma and/or COPD (chronic obstructive lung disease, bronchitis and emphysema), improvement in symptoms was noted in two-thirds of smokers who switched to vaping. According to Dr. Polosa, taken together, these findings provide emerging evidence that e-cig/vapor product use can reverse harm from tobacco smoking.


You can also find a lot of anecdotal evidence on this site from people like me with asthma and early signs of COPD who have experienced a significant improvement in their lung function by switching to vaping.

Thanks for taking the time to research about vaping and for your efforts to spread the truth. :thumb:
 

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Actually, her true story is on the CDC's Website. The Truth is, she smoked and then tried ecigs. She continued to smoke and vape. She quit vaping and Continued to smoke. Her lung collapsed a few months later.

The CDC omitted the part about her quitting vaping and continuing to smoke. They purposely are letting people assume that she was still vaping at the time her lung collapsed. Twisting of the story much?

Granted, the true story is on their website but I am sure that they were willing to bet no one is digging for the truth. Hah, they weren't counting on this community and the fact that we do love digging the facts up.

ETA:
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/campaign/tips/stories/kristy.html

Just copy link and paste in your browser.

I did that for almost 4 years and nothing happened. Smoked a pad and then vaped for the rest of the day. Sometimes vaped exclusively, sometimes smoked exclusively. My doctors attribute my heart attack to my smoking, not vaping. I was smoking 2+ packs a day come May 2014.
 

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It improves it by less harmful chemicals. Cigarettes have several harmful additives. There is no prove that ejuice is harmful to the body so far.


Sometimes I wonder if the big tobacco companies made cigarettes more addictive like when they started paying for ant-smoking ads (or was it programs) years ago. Remember those ads in the early 2000's? Why don't people remember those?
 

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DrCupCake, FYI, we have a rule here about breaking links to junk science. The smokefree dot gov site meets that criteria, as you noted it's BS! Please go back and edit your post to do that.

Regarding lung function improvement, there was a study done, albeit a small one, Dr. Polosa, Italian vapor and tobacco expert, reviews e-cigs in BMC Medicine - American Council on Science and Health (ACSH)




You can also find a lot of anecdotal evidence on this site from people like me with asthma and early signs of COPD who have experienced a significant improvement in their lung function by switching to vaping.

Thanks for taking the time to research about vaping and for your efforts to spread the truth. :thumb:


Thanks for the info! Well appreciated!


Wait.... The CDC uses junk science????
 

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And just how did that quitting smoking occur?

What is funny is all the talk of junk science, when statements like this are equally as false and misleading...

According to Dr. Polosa, taken together, these findings provide emerging evidence that e-cig/vapor product use can reverse harm from tobacco smoking.

Quitting smoking reduces damage to lungs, not e-cig use...

Perhaps someone should write the FDA proclaiming e-cig use is a cure for COPD...
 

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What is funny is all the talk of junk science, when statements like this are equally as false and misleading...



Quitting smoking reduces damage to lungs, not e-cig use...

Perhaps someone should write the FDA proclaiming e-cig use is a cure for COPD...

What was false and misleading in my question? Speaking of false statements though who is claiming vaping reduces existng damage to lungs or cures COPD.
 

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Yes Steve, vaping is not smoking and quitting smoking is the primary reason one sees improvement. The research showing that lung function can improve when one vapes instead of smoking is counter to some who some who might argue 'we don't know' the effects of vaping. Here is emerging evidence that, in this case, vaping is benign and vapers experience the benefits of quitting (reversing the harm from smoking). In my situation with asthma, I think that's significant.

BS from smokefree dot gov - your tax dollars at work.

E-cigs haven’t been shown to be effective
There haven’t been any scientific studies that prove e-cigs actually help people to quit smoking. There is also concern that using e-cigs may lead kids to start smoking regular cigarettes.

The bottom line is that we just don’t know enough about e-cigs, so we don’t recommend that you use them.

The lies (sorry I don't have time to insert the links. I'm heading out to dinner. It's my BD and I guess I should show up!!)

1. yes, there are studies that show e-cigs to be more effective than nicotine replacement therapy (NRT) like patches and gum
2. this 'concern' of leading kids to start smoking regular cigarettes has no basis in fact. Again, indications are that vaping is a means away from cigarettes and non-smoking kids are not taking up vaping at an appreciable rate (there are always a few who will experiment, we were all kids once and know that)
3. the old, tired, 'we don't know enough' line means we just didn't or won't look at at the reams of available studies because we have a position to maintain. See my sig!
 

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No I saw the quote and I agree with the premise. If you stop smoking and allow the lungs to remove some of the build up of gunk from smoking and quit adding to it, it certainly can help reverse harm from tobacco smoking. That is not the same as reversing existing damage or curing COPD. It is reducing harm no?
 
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