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Condensed Milk Flavor.

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  1. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA
    Hello Everyone,

    Just wanted to know that, has anyone had experience with Flavour Art Condensed Milk. I use one, only made three batches of 100ml liquid with it and it is hideous. So too is Flavour West Sweet Cream. But the condensed milk takes the cake. I normally make 3 mg liquids and get add about 2% of condensed milk. But it just ruins all the taste. Both the flavours are PG based.
     
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  2. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I use that flavor (sparingly) with black tea and jasmine tea (which is slightly bitter and the condensed milk offsets it.

    I actually find it gets this lovely sweet/bitter not too sweet blend but I also use it sparingly.

    I don't know of too many people using it ATM. At almost all concentrations it tastes like condensed milk, so you have to find something to make it work.

    It's not something I would routinely vape alone, no, but it has its uses.

    Anna
     
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  3. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA
    I mostly try to pair it with fruit flavours. Like Strawberry Orange Cream and stuff like that.... It mutes all the flavours and stands out on its own. Are there any other "not-so-bitter" version of this you point me to?
     
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  4. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I don't think it would go well with fruits? Maybe a tiny bit with some of the melons, like honeydew or Acai berry or whatever, dragon fruit? I could see it being okay. Or, awful.

    What percentage are you using? Because with the above I would be leery of going above 0.5% even if you flavor high. Condensed milk IS overpowering that is what it is.

    I don't think you get MY point, which is that the cloying sweetness is best DEALT with via some bitter. They balance each other out.

    Unless you ADORE condensed milk or something, I would set it aside for now. I really don't think you have the experience to deal with it yet, and I do NOT mean that in a mean way-- my tea is not bitter OR sweet, it's da bomb, because it has the right flavors, in the right balance, to make an interesting mix.

    I really don't know what to tell you other than to stick to some easier recipes. I just got done with two, which are some of my go to shake and vapes, and one has a bit of marshmallow and a tiny bit of vanilla cream but it's mostly just all the berries I have ,and it's shake and vape, and great.

    Anan
     
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  5. glasseye

    glasseye Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 15, 2012
    Myrtle Beach, SC
    I use and love what it does to caramel, makes it taste more like homemade caramel. I use 1 drop per 10ml. It's VERY potent stuff. Can't imagine 2%, that does sound like it would be awful.
    If you just want a nice cream, FA Vienna or INW Vanilla Cream are both very nice. Use at low % also, I wouldn't go over 2%.
     
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  6. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Might try TFA dulce de leche, I get a touch of condensed milk vibe from it.
     
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  7. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Tucson, AZ
    Try boiling a can of real condensed milk for a couple hours and it will turn into this very delicious, creamy, and not sticky caramel.

    My mom used to do it as a kid, and she taught us the trick,. It really is very good.

    2% isn't terrible with the teas (IMHO) but they are certainly bitter without. I could see it improving caramel flavor, certainly.

    As far as some of the more subtle flavors you'd have to use less but how much IDK? I really haven't tried it in much but my tea mix which I found rather heavenly right out of the gate.

    Guess I got lucky :)
    Anna
     
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  8. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA
    I can gulp a can of condensed milk. Loved it as a kid, something from Nestle. Forgot the name! Okay, next batch with 0.5%! I thought 2% was low! :p

    But would the flavour be noticeable at that percentage? The total flavour is around 12-13%.

    Man, I should have posted this before making my last batch! :mad:
     
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  9. MacTechVpr

    MacTechVpr Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Hollywood (Beach), FL
    That's exactly what dulce de leche is, by the way.

    Good luck and enjoy! :)
     
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  10. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Tucson, AZ
    You should really taste it just fine, even at 13% which is a bit on the high side.

    Condensed milk is one of the stronger flavors out there if you ask me. IDK if it's just super concentrated, or like, super noticeable.

    Start LOW. It's not like you can't add more if you find it to be too LOW. The reverse is considerably more difficult.
    Anna
     
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  11. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA
    One thing i noticed in the past 2-3 months, is that, cow stuff (milk, cream, butter etc) need some steep time to fully bloom. So if i add while I am using the batch, would that be of any use? Mind you, I am only 700 ml into liquid making journey! So very much in my diapers with all of this. I have to build up a collection of flavors etc etc!
     
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  12. dc99

    dc99 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 17, 2014
    earth
    PUR has a really good condensed milk flavor. Like a thick rich cream.
     
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  13. vaper1960

    vaper1960 Vaping Master

    Apr 24, 2019
    California, US
    I'm not a big fan of condensed milk but it does bring back a good childhood memory. My mother made a version of cinnamon toast in the oven. She mixed CM with butter, sugar and cinnamon and spread it on the bread (I think she slightly toasted it first so it wouldn't be soggy) It caramelized and became a whole new experience compare to the ususal way to make it. Yummmmy!
    Warning: let it cool a bit before eating.
     
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  14. vaper1960

    vaper1960 Vaping Master

    Apr 24, 2019
    California, US
    That actually sounds like a great juice recipe.
     
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  15. hell_storm2004

    hell_storm2004 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 17, 2013
    Richardson, Texas, USA

    This doesn't cut it, need the full recipe, Alton Brown style!!
     
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  16. vaper1960

    vaper1960 Vaping Master

    Apr 24, 2019
    California, US
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  17. vaper1960

    vaper1960 Vaping Master

    Apr 24, 2019
    California, US
    You have to lightly toast the bread first so it doesn't get soggy. Don't over do the broiler... just enough to caramelize a little.
    Actually ate some today... great memories!
     
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  18. Boudica

    Boudica Full Member

    Nov 16, 2013
    AK. New Zealand


    OMG I could live on it! And yes it's still made by Nestle.
    I also remember as a kid nearly cutting my tongue off by licking the opened lid of the can when mum wasn't looking LOL.

    I use it all the time as the filling for my lemon meringue pies, mixed with half a cup of lemon juice....yummy. I might get the flavouring and try it with one of my lemon flavours ...:thumbs:
    Good luck and cheers.
    :thumb:
     
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  19. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    Sounds a bit sickeningly sweet. And that is coming from ME the queen of sweetness (not just my tastes.... but my personality I think:lol::lol::lol::lol:)

    But really, you'd need the crunch sensation from the toast to make it work, I don't know if that is doable.

    I invite you to prove me wrong and post your recipe, though. I'd give it a shot, but you are the only person who knows how "authentic' you could get it.

    Anna
     
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  20. vaper1960

    vaper1960 Vaping Master

    Apr 24, 2019
    California, US
    That's exactly what I was thinking... not sure how to pull that off. Not so much the crunch as the "almost burnt" edges.
     
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