Confused about what pen is best/safest? Joytech, Halo, etc..?

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Bananadine

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Trying to help a friend quite smoking but having a hard time, going on Joytechs site alone overwhelms me, never mind the rest of the options. I am leaning towards the Joytech eCom-C Twist because of the variable settings(And glass window) but is it really any good? How is the lifespan on it, I heard much of ecigs need replacement parts often.

I want one that's deemed safe(No bad materials, odd off gassing, etc...),does not skimp on the vapor production or flavor, and also isn't expensive to maintain.

I found a kit on the main site for 59.90 with the 1300 battery, how many hours is that and is it cheaper elsewhere? I see the batteries themselves run 39.99 which is a bit, do these last a long time? Like a cellphone battery? A year or so?

Is there another pen I should look at, I checked out the Halo but the vapor production didn't seem great.

I want this to be as healthy as possible, probably gonna go with Virgin Vapor for the organic juice but would be interested in other places if there are any other good ones.

Any help would be great.
 
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You're gonna hear this alot, and for a good reason, Check out the Innokin MVP. It's the best value. Don't be scared by the form (box mod). If that's too much to overcome, the itaste vv V3 (MVP's little sister) isn't a bad alternative. Don't worry about the safety. All entry level type batteries are safe until you start getting into mechanicals.
 

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itaste vv V3 looks pretty nice, whats the best Clearomizers for it you think? I heard those need to be replaced a lot? I liked the idea of metal with the glass window on the Joyech one, do those last longer and would they work with the itaste?

I see the INNOKIN GLADIUS ADJUSTABLE AIRFLOW DUAL COIL CLEAROMIZER on misthub which seems nice? Would that work on it? That plus the Battery would cost 50ish dollars, about the same as the eCom-C Twist.


Thanks a bunch, never knew about that one, how is the battery life, says only 800mah which seems like a bit less, long enough to last say the equivalent of smoking a pack of normal cigs?

The VAMO 5 also looks like it would fit the bill...
 
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you can figure on 100mAh per hour as a rough estimate if you aren't running low resistance or dual coils on it. The iTaste vv would be my personal choice as the best pen style out there, in every area but battery life unfortunately. I've been told that the Aerotank is the current best total solution topper you can get but I have no personal experience. You might want to look at the Kanger Aerotank Mini though and read/watch some reviews. From what I hear, as far as non rebuildables that you can just buy atomizers for and use they're the top of the pile.
 

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The iTaste was an early recommendation for me and I did not get it then. One of my many mistakes on my vaping trail.

As I remember it comes with an inokin clearomizer that is not one of the best but it is free and will work.

The vamo has replaceable batteries which means you will need at least 1 battery, I would recommend 2 so you can vape one while the other charges, and a charger that will add about $30 to the cost of the vamo.

You can vape the inokin while it charges from a cell phone charger or a computer usb port and it comes with an internal battery. .
 

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I strongly recommend the iTaste VV v3. You should always have a backup anyhow, so buy two and you can charge one while using the other, and/or use one while it is charging. It will take any 501 or ego style topper. The mini protank is practically made for it if you want to stay thin, but you can use just about anything, so you aren't limited.

If you want more battery life, then the MVP is also good. Both are regulated, have variable voltage and wattage, and are easy to use. Both can be charged from any USB port, wall wart or hub.
 

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The setup I am currently using is the Innokin VV V3 and a Innokin Gladius... I definitely recommend both (Great taste/vapor production with this combo), especially if you are turned off by the huge mods that alot of people seem to love. The one thing I will warn you of if you take that route is that neither come with a Ego thread cover and the tank looks really bad on the battery without it.
 

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I have to ask is Fasttech legit? They have the Innokin VV V3 for 25 bucks with a charger and eGo-C Twist batteries for really low price....around 10 bucks.

How is that? Is it legit, they seem to have most of the clearomizer's for really low also....

I might just go with the : Mini Protank 3 + eGo-C Twist 1100mAh Variable Voltage Starter Kit for $14.58 with free shipping if this is legit, not out much money if he decides he doesn't like it, just seems to good to be true...
 
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Fasttech isn't, well, fast that is.

So far the place I've found with the best prices is 101vape.

Innokin iTaste VV (V3) Express kit - 101 Vape

They also have the MVP for $40

Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 - 101 Vape

And they have the mini protank 3 for $9 right now

Kanger Mini Protank 3 - 101 Vape

It can use the old single coil heads built for the protank 2, which is what I do most of the time. And they have those at $6 for 5. You can tweak those tanks fairly easily with an airflow base or dual coils like they come with or other fancies, but they just work, at least for me. I have 2 pt3's, 1 pt2 and one Aerotank. (Probably close to a dozen heads by now. Getting close to rebuild time.)

Cheap, easy, solid craftsmanship. For reference, I have both of the above. They're good workers, even next to my Provari.
 

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Totally legit, but it's nick named slowtech for a reason. Basically, you are ordering directly from China with them. It comes to Miami and then gets mailed from there. Orders can take anywhere from a couple weeks to over a month, especially if you order something that isn't in stock at that moment.
 

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So its not like bootleg stuff? Because I am tempted to just grab that one for 14.58 and wait a bit...Not even sure he will like vapor over smoke sadly so it seems like a cheap way of testing it. I mean it comes with the ego twist battery with the whole voltage changing thing and a protank 3 which will last a bit right?

I just don't want him inhaling glue or odd china stuff :D

Might as well see if I can find some quality e-juice on there also, any recommendations? Doubt I will find VG based organic but worth a shot, sites sorta hard to navigate. He smokes Marlboro cigarettes if that matters.
 
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Fasttech isn't bad really the health end of it isn't much of an issue. Honestly all the normal stuff name brands is made in China and we really don't know that it's better or worse in most cases. If your concerned about that side and fairly techy I'd say look at a kayfun from fasttech. Steel and a Window your building your own coil for it and it's pretty much in your hands how healthy it is. I'd pick up something else as well but for me I should have started there but I'm a geek you may not be.

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I'm new myself so not overly experienced with what to get so I got a few recommendations and did a lot of research, I've already ordered an mvp v2, it comes with an atomizer so that's a plus since I can use it while I determine what atty will work best for me.

I actually quit a 25 year marlboro habit with a tiny kanger evod clone and high nicotine juices, it was a quick inexpensive way for me to get into vaping and I'm glad I got it, but now, in less than a week I'm already ordering better things.

If it's for a friend and you're not sure he'll like it, i don't know if I would go all out right off the bat, but if he does like it, he'll be ordering an mvp within a week.
 

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Definitely buy some extra heads!

What Ohms should I go with? Lower produces more vapor right, is 1.8 good or should I find somewhere in stock that has 1.5? I am going with the Kanger Protank replacement coils(5 pack), should these last a while?

He is going on 30+ years ToxicRVA with a bad smokers cough and cant seem to quit...thinking this might help a bit health wise. I might just go with the Innokin iTaste VV (V3) after I reseached a bit more of 101vape.



That's all I need right? No other thingamagigis?
 

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Fasttech isn't, well, fast that is.

So far the place I've found with the best prices is 101vape.

Kanger Mini Protank 3 - 101 Vape

It can use the old single coil heads built for the Protank 2, which is what I do most of the time. And they have those at $6 for 5. You can tweak those tanks fairly easily with an airflow base or dual coils like they come with or other fancies, but they just work, at least for me. I have 2 pt3's, 1 pt2 and one Aerotank. (Probably close to a dozen heads by now. Getting close to rebuild time.)

From what I understand, the Protank (PT) 3 Mini uses the dual coil heads that the Aerotank uses. I've used the heads from the Protank 2 in the Aerotank, but you have to add and invert a silicone washer or it will leak. I really couldn't recommend the PT3 Mini for someone starting out. The Kanger EVOD or the PT2 Mini are absolutely great clearomizers to start with, and paired with either the Ego C-Twist or the Itaste VV V3, it makes a great combination for home or out and about. I have both and use them with the PT2 Mini for 90% of my vaping. They're portable, trouble free for the most part and the heads are reasonably priced if you don't want to bother with rebuilding them. (I'm using one now as I type this.)

This is the PT2 Mini on an Ego C-Twist 1000 mAh battery.

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Here's the PT2 Mini on the Itaste MVP

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One other thing, regarding his quitting and taking up vaping. When I did it, I thought I'd give it a try to see how it went but made a commitment to give it an honest shot. I wasn't disappointed. However he should understand, it is not going to give him the same "kick" that cigarettes do. It doesn't have all of those other chemicals that enhance the nicotine hit that cigarettes have in them. It does calm the nicotine craving and does so good enough to start realizing some of the health benefits of switching. There's a learning curve to it, but it's well worth the effort. I would advise whatever you buy, try to keep it simple and of good quality or it will become too frustrating to stick with.
 

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What Ohms should I go with? Lower produces more vapor right, is 1.8 good or should I find somewhere in stock that has 1.5? I am going with the Kanger Protank replacement coils(5 pack), should these last a while?

Well, honestly, I'd go with a higher rating for the improved battery life, it draws less amps off the battery to crank a 2.5 ohm coil up to 4.5 volts than it does to to run a 1.8 ohm coil at 3.8 volts, but both of these will give you an 8 watt vape, which is what really matters. I mean, a 3.6 ohm coil would still hit 10 watts at 6 volts, which may be too hot for some people. Honestly, low resistance attomizers/heads are for fixed voltage devices, not variable volts where you can just crank it up higher for less battery cost.
 
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