Confused about what pen is best/safest? Joytech, Halo, etc..?

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Bananadine

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Sorry, when I said ego twist, I was including all the clones, like the vision spinner, or the kanger e-vod. She has bought and used all of them. They're all pretty much identical.

Anything else that is variable like the itaste(Or twists/ego and friends) which apparently has a 650mah and not an 800mah according to Reddit

Really would like a durable one with like 1000mah for a decent price, sorry I am requesting so much, just trying to get it right the first time. :nun:
 

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I've been using the Ego C-Twists that I have (2 @ 1000 mAh & 1 @ 650 mAh) since November of 2013 (My quit date is 11-12-13! :D ) and have not had a hiccup out of any of them, nothing loose or falling off or coming off. I use the 650 at work since it's smaller and easy to carry in my pocket. The charge lasts to well after dinner, and that's with the 650! When you start getting into "knock offs" which, really the Spinner and EVOD are, you may not have the same quality control that joyetech brings to the Ego C-Twist. Whenever I hear of someone having a problem with an Ego C-Twist, almost without exception, when they are questioned, they say, "Well it wasn't a joyetech Ego C-Twist but it's the same thing." Personally, I don't think they are. I use mine while working outside all of the time. I even dropped it and lost it in the snow for a bit when I was clearing snow this past winter and it fired right up.

Here's a recent post of mine about the "holster" I have for it.
 

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I Second the Innokin VV 3.0, that would make a great first kit. I wish I would've started with that 13 months ago instead of an overpriced junk fixed voltage eGo kit. I didn't have a clue nor did I know about ECF.
As far as the Vamo and the MVP 2.0t, they are both great great devices as well. I have one of each, they might be a little big size wise for a new vaper to get used to. The Vamo however can be converted to 18350 mode by simply removing one of the tubes and it cuts the size in half, I use mine like that most of the time if I'm out and about.
I saw somebody mention batteries and a charger for the Vamo and you definitely have to take that into account. By the time you add good quality batteries, (eFest, AW to name a couple) and a quality charger like a Nitecore or similar you're in the $80-$90 range.
I have converted several smokers to Vapers and would also recommend the Kanger EVOD kit. They are around $40 and come with two batteries, two tanks, a charger and I believe 5 extra replacement coils plus some cool color options. The 650 mAh battery is still small enough for a noob to get used to but provide decent power and battery life. Just another option to look at.
fasttech is legit on most stuff, I order a lot from them but not anything I want anytime soon, mostly clone mech mods and RDA's. Communication/customer service is an absolute nightmare at best with them. They really don't offer much of a deal on brand name gear though due to MAP which is pricing set by the bigger manufacturers like Kanger, Innokin, Sigelei, Joytech etc. They have to adhere to certain prices so you don't get much of a deal unless you start buying in bulk. You are better off to order from the US initially IMO, FT does ship for free though, but I really think they send my stuff on a rowboat at times. I am waiting on vape mail from them now actually, ordered around the end June....
 

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Whenever I hear of someone having a problem with an Ego C-Twist, almost without exception, when they are questioned, they say, "Well it wasn't a Joyetech Ego C-Twist but it's the same thing."

I would say a good 3/4 of the ones she has destroyed were genuine Joyetech Ego Twists purchased from Vapor Kings walk in store. I happen to think they are fine little devices, although in that style I do think the iTaste vv is the best thing out there. My comment wasn't meant to say anything bad about the ego, just that she bangs them around on the end of a lanyard and they fall apart. Then she takes pictures of them with her iPhone and sends them to me, with sad emoticons. So I'm not saying they are bad products, just that if you knock them around a lot, expect at the minimum to need to keep an eye on the tops getting lose, and potentially need to use a little gorilla glue or something to keep them together for the life of the battery, and if the insides fall out and break one of the wires, you either solder it back on if you are capable, or throw the thing away and buy a new one.
 

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I Second the Innokin VV 3.0, that would make a great first kit. I wish I would've started with that 13 months ago instead of an overpriced junk fixed voltage eGo kit. I didn't have a clue nor did I know about ECF.
As far as the Vamo and the MVP 2.0t, they are both great great devices as well. I have one of each, they might be a little big size wise for a new vaper to get used to. The Vamo however can be converted to 18350 mode by simply removing one of the tubes and it cuts the size in half, I use mine like that most of the time if I'm out and about.
I saw somebody mention batteries and a charger for the Vamo and you definitely have to take that into account. By the time you add good quality batteries, (eFest, AW to name a couple) and a quality charger like a Nitecore or similar you're in the $80-$90 range.
I have converted several smokers to Vapers and would also recommend the Kanger EVOD kit. They are around $40 and come with two batteries, two tanks, a charger and I believe 5 extra replacement coils plus some cool color options. The 650 mAh battery is still small enough for a noob to get used to but provide decent power and battery life. Just another option to look at.
Fasttech is legit on most stuff, I order a lot from them but not anything I want anytime soon, mostly clone mech mods and RDA's. Communication/customer service is an absolute nightmare at best with them. They really don't offer much of a deal on brand name gear though due to MAP which is pricing set by the bigger manufacturers like Kanger, Innokin, Sigelei, Joytech etc. They have to adhere to certain prices so you don't get much of a deal unless you start buying in bulk. You are better off to order from the US initially IMO, FT does ship for free though, but I really think they send my stuff on a rowboat at times. I am waiting on vape mail from them now actually, ordered around the end June....

I do want to go with the itaste personally, once you set it to your optimal vaping temp/volt/wattage you just press it 3 times to turn on and off right? No needed to tinker every time? Like other pens?
 

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I do want to go with the itaste personally, once you set it to your optimal vaping temp/volt/wattage you just press it 3 times to turn on and off right? No needed to tinker every time? Like other pens?

Exactly, I think variable wattage in a device that size is worth giving up the extra 200mAh you would get with an ego, vision, or kanger.
 

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Exactly, I think variable wattage in a device that size is worth giving up the extra 200mAh you would get with an ego, vision, or kanger.

Yeah I think I will just do that, he seems ok with it after I explained the durability issue, I was actually thinking since the Protank mini 2 is around 8 bucks on strictly ecig where I will order the itaste and extra coils is this the same tank on this device: Kamry Mini X 9 Kit - D&A Distribution as the Protank 2 mini? Looks the same and sounds the same.

So at least he will have an extra battery with it along with the itaste? 11 dollars vs 8 really isn't to bad for an extra battery I suppose.

Guess I am decided, just wanted to see if those tanks were the same and took the same coils also, if not I will just get the protank mini 2, this is my cart now:

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Not sure why the photo is so small......Its this:

http://strictlyecig.com/kanger-replacement-single-coil-5-pack/

http://strictlyecig.com/innokin-itazte-v-v-v3-0-express-kit/

http://strictlyecig.com/kamry-mini-x-9-kit/

That's whats in my current cart.
 
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Fasttech isn't, well, fast that is.

So far the place I've found with the best prices is 101vape.

Innokin iTaste VV (V3) Express kit - 101 Vape

They also have the MVP for $40

Innokin iTaste MVP V2.0 - 101 Vape

And they have the mini protank 3 for $9 right now

Kanger Mini Protank 3 - 101 Vape

It can use the old single coil heads built for the protank 2, which is what I do most of the time. And they have those at $6 for 5. You can tweak those tanks fairly easily with an airflow base or dual coils like they come with or other fancies, but they just work, at least for me. I have 2 pt3's, 1 pt2 and one Aerotank. (Probably close to a dozen heads by now. Getting close to rebuild time.)

Cheap, easy, solid craftsmanship. For reference, I have both of the above. They're good workers, even next to my Provari.


Was gonna post this but he beat me to it...
Trust - the MVP is so worth it for a noob
Same guts as a V3 but with over three times the batter life
V3 is 800 mah MVP is 2600 mah.
For a noon they forgets to charge their mod it's worth it! The form factor also keeps it bottom heavy so it won't have the tendency to fall over with a top heavy glass tank.
The vv/vw will also keep them from wanting to upgrade two weeks into vaping. Unless they want to switch to the aerotank- where if they have a pro rank they get just swap out the base for 6 bucks.
This is the ideal starter kit!!!
 

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Ah, I looked them up and they aren't compatible with protank or any of the other common head types. Looks like something to avoid from a maintenance standpoint. Go with a real protank 2 mini and you can get heads very easily and I imagine cheaper too.

Got it, that's a shame, will just go with the pro mini 2 tank and coils pack with the itaste.

Think i am all set, thanks a ton everyone!
 

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Best pen vape I have and is my DAILY carrier... Ego-V V3 w/ a Kanger Mini Protank 3.

Variable wattage and voltage, never have to worry about a dead battery and BOY does EVERYTHING taste good out of it!!!

9.5/10 from me!

Are you happy with the build quality, and can you post a link to the one you got? The various incarnations of the Ego V design apparently hit their numbers a lot more accurately than the Innokin VV2 (and do the adverised 6v whereas the VV2 doesn't hit its advertised 5v,) but I'm scared off by all the breakage repots I've been reading.
 

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The only reason that doesn't hold out is that the nicotine in cigarettes is freebase. That makes a vaporizer vs a cigarette more like the difference between snorting a certain white powder of Columbian import as opposed to smoking it out of a glass pipe.

Ok, you know more than me and must be right here.

What I cant explain is why it seriously seems stronger to me. I take 10 puffs off my vaporizer and I wont even begin to desire nicotine for an hour. Is it perhaps my habit was more about the action of doing something than the nicotine itself?
 

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Ok, you know more than me and must be right here.

What I cant explain is why it seriously seems stronger to me. I take 10 puffs off my vaporizer and I wont even begin to desire nicotine for an hour. Is it perhaps my habit was more about the action of doing something than the nicotine itself?
Definitely, not to mention that once you get over the withdrawal from whole tobacco alkaloids the addiction response just isn't nearly as strong. Nicotine+WTAs=almost as addictive as ....... Nicotine by itself? About the same as caffeine.
 

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Alright, placed my order, 2 protank mini 2's, 5 coils, and an itaste VV 3.

Now to find an organic VG based liquid that taste like marlboros haha, any suggestions?

Looking at this and this since most say it actually taste like tobacco and most don't apparently. Any other suggestions, comes to about 25 shipped for an once(Is that a good price?)...

Also is organic ethyl alcohol alright to inhale? I mean that sounds like inhaling alcohol which seems like a no no...?
 
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Bananadine

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Eh, I actively avoid anything with a buzzword like organic so I can't help you there. Alcohol is used in the flavorings of almost all e-liquid, pg and vg are actually forms of alcohol.

Not sure if it counts in E-Liquid but I usually go with organic fair trade for most things, tends to taste better, and the companies seem to care and take a bigger interest in health/safety imo...well most.
 
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