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Tons of people love the MVP ... I don't think you'll be disappointed. I still own a Vamo v2 and its working after a year and several drops on cement. China isn't all that bad.

And that is coming from someone who owns several high-end hybrids. If it works ... it works.

Am I the only one who thinks the SVD is friggin ugly in design? lol
 

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Tons of people love the MVP ... I don't think you'll be disappointed. I still own a Vamo v2 and its working after a year and several drops on cement. China isn't all that bad.

And that is coming from someone who owns several high-end hybrids. If it works ... it works.

Am I the only one who thinks the SVD is friggin ugly in design? lol

^^^This^^^^ And I agree. The SVD is one bug ugly APV! :p
 

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If you need VV, ProVari. If you don't, pretty much any high end 18650 mod (Chi-You, King, Nemesis, Ba-Gua, Turtle Ship, Poldiac, etc..) will do. If you don't have much money, a clone of said high end mods works pretty much just as well (although not as well)...

As far as atomizers.... I would go with a Grand Vapor Prometheus or Vicious Ant Kraken... I have a Z-Atty Pro and that's good...

if you want a dripper, the Vicious Ant Cyclone is IMO the best one out there.... VHO Helios is close second.
 

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TreVader:10968863 said:
If you need VV, ProVari. If you don't, pretty much any high end 18650 mod (Chi-You, King, Nemesis, Ba-Gua, Turtle Ship, Poldiac, etc..) will do. If you don't have much money, a clone of said high end mods works pretty much just as well (although not as well)...

As far as atomizers.... I would go with a Grand Vapor Prometheus or Vicious Ant Kraken... I have a Z-Atty Pro and that's good...

if you want a dripper, the Vicious Ant Cyclone is IMO the best one out there.... VHO Helios is close second.

Those are all great devices. They are also for the most part ... not easily accessible to purchase at any given time.

I personally never recommend high-end devices to people who are just getting their feet wet.

Best to start off cheap and see what you like then to start off expensive and get potentially frustrated because you've spent money on something you're not into.

For instance ... you can grab an IGO-L for under $15 and its a fantastic dripping rebuildable. If you decide you don't like RDAs ... no biggie. If you decide you love them ... then perhaps you look at something higher end. Or maybe you stay satified with the IGO and don't really care about status symbols and resell values. Eitherway ... your wallet will thank you in the end.
 

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Those are all great devices. They are also for the most part ... not easily accessible to purchase at any given time.

I personally never recommend high-end devices to people who are just getting their feet wet.

Best to start off cheap and see what you like then to start off expensive and get potentially frustrated because you've spent money on something you're not into.

For instance ... you can grab an IGO-L for under $15 and its a fantastic dripping rebuildable. If you decide you don't like RDAs ... no biggie. If you decide you love them ... then perhaps you look at something higher end. Or maybe you stay satified with the IGO and don't really care about status symbols and resell values. Eitherway ... your wallet will thank you in the end.

This is a mistake... you will end up paying for the higher end stuff later anyway. That's exactly what I was told when I walked in and tried to buy a ProVari as my 1st device (well, 2nd after e-Go) and ended up walking out with an itazte vv. Lo and behold 3 weeks later I realized I had just wasted $120 on that + pro tanks when i ended up paying another $400 for a Pro-Vari, Z-Atty Pro, and supporting gear.

Guys always say "ooh you don't need that, that's only for ADVANCED vapers"... there is no such thing. Vaping RDAs and mechs are simple enough to be operated and maintained by your average 6th grader.


EDIT: Although, the Igo-L is a good idea. If money is the issue, buy a clone of one of the high end devices. If you don't like it, in the end you'll only have spent half what an itazte MVP would cost you online, and a 4th of what it would cost you from a B&M.
 
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It's not about things being easy. It's about finding what you like.

If you tell someone to go out and buy a $100-$200 rebuildable atty and they decide they dont like rebuilding... that could be frustrating. Where as they could have spent $10-$20 to come to the same conclusion.

And if they DO decide they like rebuilding ... then their choices are limitless if they want another atty ... including the higher end rebuildables. Will they be frustrated that they spent $10-$20 on a massed produced atty? Doubt it ... in fact, they'll probably continue using it or at the very least use it as a backup.


PV devices are a bit different in that they are ALL ...in the end ... battery holders. They all have different forms, looks, and features. When it comes to a pv ... it truly comes down to personal preference. So best do the research and decide what you want in a pv. If money is no object ... the options are again limitless. However it is important to note that MANY high end mods require patience and a little luck to aquire.

When it comes to mechanicals ... I always recommend a cheaper device or clone to a new comer. Why? Because like atomizers ... mechanicals may not be for everyone. Some people just want to pop a battery, vape, and go on their merry way. They don't want to worry about resistance, amps, or cleaning their pv.

You tell someone like that to go out and buy a Poldiac .... Whew! are they in for a surprise.
 

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This is a mistake... you will end up paying for the higher end stuff later anyway. That's exactly what I was told when I walked in and tried to buy a ProVari as my 1st device (well, 2nd after e-Go) and ended up walking out with an itazte vv. Lo and behold 3 weeks later I realized I had just wasted $120 on that + pro tanks when i ended up paying another $400 for a Pro-Vari, Z-Atty Pro, and supporting gear.

Guys always say "ooh you don't need that, that's only for ADVANCED vapers"... there is no such thing. Vaping RDAs and mechs are simple enough to be operated and maintained by your average 6th grader.


EDIT: Although, the Igo-L is a good idea. If money is the issue, buy a clone of one of the high end devices. If you don't like it, in the end you'll only have spent half what an itazte MVP would cost you online, and a 4th of what it would cost you from a B&M.


I hate to do it but I have to disagree throwing a new user under the bus with RDAs before they have any understanding of Ohm's Law or battery safety is not only a bad idea but it's also irresponsible. Start slow get yourself a SVD or a Provari or whatever VV/VW device you wanted, put a carto or a clearo on it for now. Keep reading forums doing research and understand what you get into before diving in head first.
 

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With a Provari your only paying for how it's American made...
Waste of a vape and money. Stick with the imports my friend.

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By the time you buy 3 or 4 cheapo mods and throw them away when they fail, you could have had a well built mod, that can be reasonably repaired if it needs it.

But to each their own.


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By the time you buy 3 or 4 cheapo mods and throw them away when they fail, you could have had a well built mod, that can be reasonably repaired if it needs it.

But to each their own.


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Magneto v2 and Vamo v3 not to mention other imported mech's cheap mods? Lol who are you trolling, guess someone's mad about how they spent every last penny on they're Pro-fairy.
 
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Magneto v2 and Vamo v3 not to mention other imported mech's cheap mods? Lol who are you trolling, guess someone's mad about how they spent every last penny on they're Pro-fairy.

Trolling? Not you certainly.

Was responding to the OP, who asked for suggestions, and he spelled out what he was looking for.
I responding with my best advice.

Mad about my Provari???? Nope. No one who has bought one regrets it.
 

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Trolling? Not you certainly.

Was responding to the OP, who asked for suggestions, and he spelled out what he was looking for.
I responding with my best advice.

Mad about my Provari???? Nope. No one who has bought one regrets it.

Hmm, responding to the OP yet you quote my post? That certainly isn't trolling me now is it?
Anyways... Cheap mods yes, by far. But a cheap build? No sir, that is where your all wrong. Who are you kidding? All you Provari enthusiasts are all the same, and I think I know why. You've bought it thinking there's going to be something spectacular about it besides the fact that it's American made, yet the cold hard truth it's just the same as an import? Hurts doesn't it..
 
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I've almost pulled the trigger on a Provari a million times. But frankly, my Vamo just keeps on ticking and these days I use it almost exclusively as an ohm meter. The new Zombie edition caught my eye ... but I keep telling myself ... "why spend $200 for what will almost surely be nothing more than an ohm meter to you?" I'm just not into regulated devices anymore. And the fact that the Provari still only has a 3.5 amp limit, plus can't scale from 18350-18650 on its own just keeps me looking the other way.

Always told myself if the Vamo dies I'll buy a Provari ... but now I kinda have my eye on the SemoVar. Gonna have to facepalm myself the day the Vamo dies and I spend $200+ on another pretty looking ohm meter ... lol! But that's what I'll probably do.

Heck, maybe I'll just grab a DNA20 mod ... might actually use it.
 

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I've almost pulled the trigger on a Provari a million times. But frankly, my Vamo just keeps on ticking and these days I use it almost exclusively as an ohm meter. The new Zombie edition caught my eye ... but I keep telling myself ... "why spend $200 for what will almost surely be nothing more than an ohm meter to you?" I'm just not into regulated devices anymore. And the fact that the Provari still only has a 3.5 amp limit, plus can't scale from 18350-18650 on its own just keeps me looking the other way.

Always told myself if the Vamo dies I'll buy a Provari ... but now I kinda have my eye on the SemoVar. Gonna have to facepalm myself the day the Vamo dies and I spend $200+ on another pretty looking ohm meter ... lol! But that's what I'll probably do.

Heck, maybe I'll just grab a DNA20 mod ... might actually use it.

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner. Great input, I'm using my Vamo as an ohm reader myself for my sub ohm Magneto with a dual coil running on my aga-t2. It's fantastic!
 

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I hate to do it but I have to disagree throwing a new user under the bus with RDAs before they have any understanding of Ohm's Law or battery safety is not only a bad idea but it's also irresponsible. Start slow get yourself a SVD or a Provari or whatever VV/VW device you wanted, put a carto or a clearo on it for now. Keep reading forums doing research and understand what you get into before diving in head first.

Dude, come on. Ohms law is multiplying fractions... and it can easily be done on a calculator. Even then, all they need to know is how to google the words "ohms law" and "calculator" an vua la! Ohms law. EVEN THEN if they knew NOTHING about it... worst thing that happens is they burn out a few coils, maybe a battery.

This whole idea that the most basic electrical engineering laws are difficult is stupid. If you can't understand ohms law, you shouldn't be on the internet. You should be playing angry birds on your rubber coated i-Pad in a colorful room full of plush stuffed animals. Because ur super special.
 

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Dude, come on. Ohms law is multiplying fractions... and it can easily be done on a calculator. Even then, all they need to know is how to google the words "ohms law" and "calculator" an vua la! Ohms law. EVEN THEN if they knew NOTHING about it... worst thing that happens is they burn out a few coils, maybe a battery.

This whole idea that the most basic electrical engineering laws are difficult is stupid. If you can't understand ohms law, you shouldn't be on the internet. You should be playing angry birds on your rubber coated i-Pad in a colorful room full of plush stuffed animals. Because ur super special.

Not everyone geeks out when they have to do math. Remember, vapers are former smokers. Most are use to just lighting up a cig and going on with their life ... no math needed.

You can't assume everyone will either understand or care to understand everything there is to know about ohms law and safety. Just because they may feel that way doesn't make them lazy, stupid, or beneath those who feel contrary. Starting slow and gaining basic knowledge first is often the path taken, and it has worked for many people ... if not the majority.

Your argument comes off a tad bit pretentious.
 
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