I have one thing that I can't seem to find the answer to anywhere. I see people making recipes with percent this and percent that of VG/PG and then they have a nicotine base, but they don't indicate whether or not their nicotine base VG or PG and if they take that into consideration with the percent rate. I do not want to go by drops count because that seems like it can be inaccurate. OCD here! I understand that I will have to experiment in order to figure out what I like. But for example, if I go to Wizard Labs and order a bottle of 24mg nicotine base with 70/30 VG/PG or PG/VG, do I have to dilute that with anything at all if I want an end result of 24mg? Then do I just grab some flavor extracts and put in like 5% to 20% of that? I thank ye in advance for the advice.
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just guessing but I think most people get their nic base in 100% pg. if you want to vape 24mg nic juice you will need to get your nic base in a higher concentration. as soon as you start adding flavors to the base the nic level will lower. you need to download the e-juice calculator "juice me up". that's the one most people are using. start playing with it but don't make any liquids until you are sure you understand it. good luck
When reading a recipe, the only important facts are the percentages of flavoring. Everything else is irrelevant to your making a juice for yourself. What the recipe originator used for nicotine strength and PG/VG mixture is interesting, but not relevant. Use a juice calculator like: E-Liquid Calculator Ten Flavor's With Nicotine Plus PG/VG Adjusting
You enter all the data you want for your juice. (If you want juice that is 24mg with more PG than VG, buy 48mg or 60mg nicotine in PG). Put in your nicotine strength, your 24mg at x/y PG/VG. Then enter the flavorings from the recipe in the percentages given. Calculate and voila! a mixing recipe
You enter all the data you want for your juice. (If you want juice that is 24mg with more PG than VG, buy 48mg or 60mg nicotine in PG). Put in your nicotine strength, your 24mg at x/y PG/VG. Then enter the flavorings from the recipe in the percentages given. Calculate and voila! a mixing recipe
That is certainly the easiest way to DIY. Bearing in mind that you will not have quite the mg you started with as pointed out by WallyO. If you aren't too picky about the strength, you'll do fine. The most flavoring I have used is 15%. so using the 24mg as an example i would the nend up with 20.4 mg juice
By buying it in the pg/vg ratio you already like, you don't have to figure out how to get what you want using an ejuice calculator although, with just a bit of practice, you can use an ejuice calculator with no problems.
Your way is easier and does save you money over buying premade juice.
By buying it in the pg/vg ratio you already like, you don't have to figure out how to get what you want using an ejuice calculator although, with just a bit of practice, you can use an ejuice calculator with no problems.
Your way is easier and does save you money over buying premade juice.
Thanks WallyO! I got 36mg 70/30 PG/VG and some different flavor extracts to drop the nic level. Oh and I guess they will flavor the juice too.
I figured getting your nic base in 100% of the higher way you perfer was easiest to work with (ie. 100% PG if you like 70/30 PG/VG or 100% VG if you like 20/80 PG/VG) then jus have larger bottles of plain VG and PG to dilute. I could be wrong but thats how I have always mixed. I vape 60/40 PG/VG and always buy 100% PG nic base.
Yes Lizzie, I seem to be going through the juice pretty fat and am in need to save a little money, but without deceiving quality. So I decided to go more diy than just mixing online.
That is certainly the easiest way to DIY. Bearing in mind that you will not have quite the mg you started with as pointed out by WallyO. If you aren't too picky about the strength, you'll do fine. The most flavoring I have used is 15%. so using the 24mg as an example i would the nend up with 20.4 mg juice
By buying it in the pg/vg ratio you already like, you don't have to figure out how to get what you want using an ejuice calculator although, with just a bit of practice, you can use an ejuice calculator with no problems.
Your way is easier and does save you money over buying premade juice.
Don't forget that if you use 20% flavor with 36mg nic base you will have 28.8 mg nic juice so if you use less flavor it will be even stronger. Do you like your juice to be that strong of nicotine????
Lizzie,
I guess I typically get between 18mg and 24mg when I buy an already mixed bottle. Perhaps I will have to add a little more vg/pg base. I can probably tone down a homegrown mix with a pre-made mix I already have if the nic is too intense for me.
I guess I typically get between 18mg and 24mg when I buy an already mixed bottle. Perhaps I will have to add a little more vg/pg base. I can probably tone down a homegrown mix with a pre-made mix I already have if the nic is too intense for me.
You can definitely add some plain pg and/or vg to get that nic level down. Have you looked at ejuice calculators?
This sounds like a smart method. I can just imagine that I won't be perfect the first go around. I know I will have to experiment with a combination of VG/PG to get the right about of vap and flavor for me. I probably should have gotten 100% PG nic base and an extra bottle of VG no nic to tone it down. Maybe I will just put in an order of that already before I have the stuff to mix with. Because, anyway, 36mg nic even with 20% flavor is going to be quite high for me. So if I get some VG no nic now, maybe I will have a result that is a little bit closer to 70/40 PG/VG but not quite that. Maybe 70/35?
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
Here is the ejuice calculator that I use. 100 mg nic is really strong. I get 60mg and then carefull measure after using the juice calulator. Nothing wrong with getting 24mg or 36mg nic base especially to start with.
I hope you read the stickes at the top of the DIY section and feel free to ask questions about anything you read
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Here is the ejuice calculator that I use. 100 mg nic is really strong. I get 60mg and then carefull measure after using the juice calulator. Nothing wrong with getting 24mg or 36mg nic base especially to start with.
I hope you read the stickes at the top of the DIY section and feel free to ask questions about anything you read
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Just remember start out with small quantities like 5mils see if you like it and go up from there .with some flavors also start with low %
some can be overpowering .read hoosier's blogs they are funny and educational .have fun
some can be overpowering .read hoosier's blogs they are funny and educational .have fun
The calculator BillLouisiana recommended is the one I use and is self-explanatory but will add this: Make sure you know what concentration your flavoring solution is. 5% of a concentrate might be just right but 5% of a super concentrate will ruin the juice... that should be half or 2.5%
Hi Lizzie,
I actually did get the 36mg nic liquid. That might be too high for me even after adding 20% flavors. I'll have to place an order for some more vg and try to tone it down. Thanks for being so supportive. I think I am not afraid to try new things so I am happy for the encouragement.
I actually did get the 36mg nic liquid. That might be too high for me even after adding 20% flavors. I'll have to place an order for some more vg and try to tone it down. Thanks for being so supportive. I think I am not afraid to try new things so I am happy for the encouragement.
eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
Here is the ejuice calculator that I use. 100 mg nic is really strong. I get 60mg and then carefull measure after using the juice calulator. Nothing wrong with getting 24mg or 36mg nic base especially to start with.
I hope you read the stickes at the top of the DIY section and feel free to ask questions about anything you read
We cross posted
That's a good idea, jcal. I will start with small brews. And likely I will just do one simple flavor at a time.
Hi Patkin,
I'm not sure how I can tell. I just got extracts from Perfumer's Apprentice. I'll have to search the forum to find some tips on using their stuff.
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