ya, i'd settled on the kr8. it is just a matter of getting good cartomizers and good batteries which use a vacuum switch. the shipping cost from health cabin is high, but i can get all the hardware from them that i want. i'm just waiting for the black auto batts. i plan on getting the stainless auto, black auto, and manual stainless pass. i'll get the stainless and black cartomizers too. i'll probably label the caps with a black marker to designate flavor and recap them when done to refill them. i'll put tobacco in stainless and other flavors in black. i really do like tobacco, but being able to smoke pina colada, whiskey, cola, coffee, and black tea is attractive -- maybe i can cut down on the amount of liquids i drink too. i'm looking at ordering liquid from tasty vapor though the selection is a little limited. i'm guessing i don't want to have liquid shipped from china. rather buy american made liquids. i could also probably do my own liquids, but i'll use the already made stuff so i can get an idea of what to expect when i start doing it myself.