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...Oh. Ok.
Kat? Miss us? You'll still be on ECF and celebrate with us in PreVet yes?
I'm too hurt to even think about it, Meggers.
I've invested so much time and energy into this whole thing... I just feel like crying. Really.
A year and a half, every single day--only to be told to get lost.
I don't think there should be any thinking about it. People on here love and depend on you. I...I'm not, generally by nature, one to be a bully and tell people what they are or are not going to do but...YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE CAUSE I SAID SO. SIT DOWN AND DON'T MOVE TILL I TELL YOU TO!!!!!
...Please? 
YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE CAUSE I SAID SO. SIT DOWN AND DON'T MOVE TILL I TELL YOU TO!!!!!
Thanks, Megggers. it means a lot...
I'll get back to you when I stop crying. My keyboard gets slippery when wet....
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LOL...Meggers
I am still wondering why we are going by JJ's rules...it was already clear & put very clearly by J0ker that we are the ones that make the rules for Pre-vets...anyone have an answer to that??? Seriously...why are we letting her tell us what we can do and what we cannot???? Anyone???
I am still wondering why we are going by JJ's rules...it was already clear & put very clearly by J0ker that we are the ones that make the rules for Pre-vets...anyone have an answer to that??? Seriously...why are we letting her tell us what we can do and what we cannot???? Anyone???
i just sent a pm to j0ker asking for clarification of his post ........
tweety's interpretation or jj's? let's hope for the best
I'm done commenting about it whis. It doesn't matter. I tried to propose a way that worked using the existing rules and interpreting them broadly when this whole thing started up again. That was a no-go.
The way I read it, it's "No changes". If I'm wrong about that, then I'm wrong.
I've spent IDK how many hours (along with the rest of you) finding, agreeing, and SUBMITTING, a proposed solution that would have made all the issues "go bye-bye" since there would be little to nothing left to complain about (for execution of contest). Then, for ECF staff to back out of the whole proposal AGAIN.
The squabbling was pointless since the new rules would have solved the situation. Neither "side" could keep their fingers off the keyboard long enough for a review of the proposed solution. And the review only had to wait long enough for tempers to flair again and then say "No!". If you wait long enough, it was bound to happen.
It's a lose-lose situation. The only way to "win" was to A) Agree on changes and B) put them in place. We achieved A under stress but could not pull off B.
ECF failed as much as we did.
I'm not playing the "we" vs "jj's rules" game. Nor am I playing the "If you do this, I'll do that" game. Nor do I need yet another person's restating of what we all collectively spent weeks agreeing to and published (not that that's bad, but why?).
Atty don't play dat. I've wasted enough time here rather then helping others (that want support and help with e-cigs) on ECF.
The way I read it, it's "No changes". If I'm wrong about that, then I'm wrong.
I've spent IDK how many hours (along with the rest of you) finding, agreeing, and SUBMITTING, a proposed solution that would have made all the issues "go bye-bye" since there would be little to nothing left to complain about (for execution of contest). Then, for ECF staff to back out of the whole proposal AGAIN.
The squabbling was pointless since the new rules would have solved the situation. Neither "side" could keep their fingers off the keyboard long enough for a review of the proposed solution. And the review only had to wait long enough for tempers to flair again and then say "No!". If you wait long enough, it was bound to happen.
It's a lose-lose situation. The only way to "win" was to A) Agree on changes and B) put them in place. We achieved A under stress but could not pull off B.
ECF failed as much as we did.
I'm not playing the "we" vs "jj's rules" game. Nor am I playing the "If you do this, I'll do that" game. Nor do I need yet another person's restating of what we all collectively spent weeks agreeing to and published (not that that's bad, but why?).
Atty don't play dat. I've wasted enough time here rather then helping others (that want support and help with e-cigs) on ECF.
I expressed my thoughts already in post #191. I have nothing else to add. I do not recognize jj's authority over me. I don't know who appointed her and why, but even if that appointment was somehow valid and lawful, I still have the right to not participate. I made a last good-faith appeal to her in that post but it went unrecognized and unanswered. She says her feelings were hurt. I'm really sorry about that, but I had nothing to do with that. Other people's feelings were hurt too. Why is it that only jj's hurt feeling matter?
And now I have to go and take care of my RW stuff.
My heart is broken, jj, and my feelings are hurt too.
All you need to do is say,"OK, let's just get along, as best we can--we don't have to be friends, but we still can cooperate."
And now I have to go and take care of my RW stuff.
My heart is broken, jj, and my feelings are hurt too.
All you need to do is say,"OK, let's just get along, as best we can--we don't have to be friends, but we still can cooperate."
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...Thank you Atty, I understand how you feel....and am sorry for anything I might have done to add to the chaos.
I am with Kat on this one though as far as what she's saying...JJ is not the only one who's feelings were hurt she dictated, insulted, ignored, belittled and gave ultimatums.
I am with Kat on this one though as far as what she's saying...JJ is not the only one who's feelings were hurt she dictated, insulted, ignored, belittled and gave ultimatums.
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