Coppervape BF Mod

[b.m.]

I ordered from Focal once and it was a bad experience but may give them another try since that Origen little is getting outstanding reviews on every site i have researched it on.

Let us know if it's as amazing as everybody says it is.

My very first order with Focal was horrible.The item said may take 3-7 days to process,and it took almost 2 months to finally ship.They kept saying it was restocking,and they would have it shipped out within 3 days of that conversation,then it would all start again,then Chinese new year came along and stopped everything.I finally contacted them again and said forget it,give me a refund,and they gave me tracking to show it had finally shipped that morning.I wouldn't order from them for a long time,then decided to try again,and luckily have had no issues on the last 4 orders i've done with them.

On the Origen little.
First impression was that it seems well made.Once i started putting a build in it,i was ready to throw it across the room haha.It has 2 sets of holes in each post for the legs to go through,and my eyesight sucks,so i had a horrible time getting the legs to go straight across,they kept going out the side hole,then the screw wouldn't grab it.After 2 sets of coils,and about an hour,i can honestly say i am glad i stuck with it,and didn't slam it into the wall haha.The airflow is just a little tighter than i usually run,but i think the smaller airflow really helps with the flavor,and after a few minutes i started to get used to the tighter draw,so no issue there.For a small little rda,it will throw some clouds too haha.To put it simply,i like it enough that i will be getting at least 1 more.
Also,if your leary about dealing with Focal,Ft has these now too.I don't know who theirs is made by,but the reviews i seen seem pretty good on it.


On your post about 3f.
I have ordered from them 4 times,and never any issues.They have a lot of stuff that says ships in 24 hours,most of what i have ordered has been from that category and got them very fast.2 of my orders were in my hands less than a week from the time i ordered,the other 2 took maybe 8 days.

 

[TheWestPole]

Yeah , quite a few sites have the Origen little but FT staff have confirmed their offering is not from Shen Ray which is OK but i heard Shen Ray makes outstanding quality clones.

I've been using the Shen Ray clone from Focal. One from FT is on its way, so I'll know soon enough how the quality compares. Will post then.

 

[Train2]

Ah - didn't realize/notice that.
I got the Focal one when it was the first clone available.
Like the O-atty - ordered one of those, too (gonna be a while - that's not in yet).

I had 510 threads that needed to be forced the first time - but other than that, it seems really good quality. And it's a great little atty, as long as you don't want a big fat coil, or BIG airflow. You can do a lung hit - but it's not "airy"...

Yeah , quite a few sites have the Origen little but FT staff have confirmed their offering is not from Shen Ray which is OK but i heard Shen Ray makes outstanding quality clones.

 

[herb]

Why are a lot of these BF toppers so small in diameter , whats the benefit of 16 mm over 22 mm .

 

[KentA]

Why are a lot of these BF toppers so small in diameter , whats the benefit of 16 mm over 22 mm .

The smaller chamber seems to concentrate flavor.

 

[Train2]

One appeal is that they fit the "landing deck" on the old Reo grand, as well as some european squonkers that have "catch cups" for smaller diameter attys. That, I think is where it started.

But also, it's fairly accepted that a smaller chamber TENDS to deliver more intense flavor. I think it's just that with less room, you're going to in general get more "concentrated" actual vapor - and less air mixed in. Even in 22's, the "reduced chamber" is done to increase the flavor intensity.

That's a Nuppin - an 18mm atty.
Below, a 22. Works fine, but hangs over the deck...

Why are a lot of these BF toppers so small in diameter , whats the benefit of 16 mm over 22 mm .

 

[Layzee Vaper]

Why are a lot of these BF toppers so small in diameter , whats the benefit of 16 mm over 22 mm .

You get a much smaller chamber size. You can get pretty intense flavour and a warmer vape out of a moderate build. For me this means I can run builds that give me a longer run time on a single 18650. I very easily get a full day out of 1 battery. Running a more moderate build also helps with juice consumption levels. I don't need to carry multiple batteries and extra juice around. After nearly 5 years vaping I just want easy and convenient

 

[herb]

One appeal is that they fit the "landing deck" on the old Reo grand, as well as some european squonkers that have "catch cups" for smaller diameter attys. That, I think is where it started.

But also, it's fairly accepted that a smaller chamber TENDS to deliver more intense flavor. I think it's just that with less room, you're going to in general get more "concentrated" actual vapor - and less air mixed in. Even in 22's, the "reduced chamber" is done to increase the flavor intensity.

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That's a Nuppin - an 18mm atty.
Below, a 22. Works fine, but hangs over the deck...
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I don't mind if it hangs over the side of the mod or looks odd . I guess the 16 mm -18 mm toppers have better flavor than the 22 mm sizes of the same type and design.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Highwayman1224]

Love those LokiLabs Router driptips! Have several & they're probably the most comfortable driptip I've ever used!

One appeal is that they fit the "landing deck" on the old Reo grand, as well as some european squonkers that have "catch cups" for smaller diameter attys. That, I think is where it started.

But also, it's fairly accepted that a smaller chamber TENDS to deliver more intense flavor. I think it's just that with less room, you're going to in general get more "concentrated" actual vapor - and less air mixed in. Even in 22's, the "reduced chamber" is done to increase the flavor intensity.

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That's a Nuppin - an 18mm atty.
Below, a 22. Works fine, but hangs over the deck...
View attachment 606273

 

[sonicbomb]

You get a much smaller chamber size. You can get pretty intense flavour and a warmer vape out of a moderate build. For me this means I can run builds that give me a longer run time on a single 18650. I very easily get a full day out of 1 battery. Running a more moderate build also helps with juice consumption levels. I don't need to carry multiple batteries and extra juice around. After nearly 5 years vaping I just want easy and convenient

^ This

I like a hot intense vape and a reduced chamber RDA is an efficient way of getting this, particularly on a tube mech where your wattage is limited. Once you get into sub 0.25 ohm builds voltage drop, ramp up time and battery runtime become prohibitive even if you have a really good mech. My two favorites are the Derringer and the Haze Mini, anything bigger goes on a +80 watt regulated device loaded with big coils.

 

[ThaFuzz]

Well, im pretty sure my dripbox died today (hopefully i can dry it out at try again) so i ordered the coppervape and a v2 parts kit from slowtech now the waiting. Good thing my vtc mini still works...

 

[Blind Owl]

I'm liking my Coppervape, and glad I followed this thread & decided to spring for a couple, one each for me and my wife. I was looking for a backup to our faithful old REO LP Grands and feeling too cheap to spring for another pair. As far as sturdiness, performance, and ease of use are concerned, this thing seems like a winner! No teething troubles of any kind, and best of all I don't feel as if I'm slumming when I vape this baby (that was a very mild dig @ some of my fellow Reonauts ).

But oh, that atty.

I know some owners have got it to work fine, but as far as I can tell they're mostly sub-ohming lung-hitters, which we're not. Single 28g Kanthal coils in the 1.2 - 1.5 ohm range, a tightish draw (about like an ordinary filter cigarette) suit our needs, and the kit atty just won't cut it. No flavor. Too bad, because it's easy to build, and roomy compared to the RM2s we're using now. Plus the kit atty's profile & diameter really suit the mod. Looks kind of dorky with the skinny RM2 perched on top.

So naturally, I'm hoping someone can point us in the right direction. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[benley73]

The wolfpaw rda , is a nice vape , good flavours nice looking an clean build deck, with a stabilised wood drip tip or a wide bore delrin chuff top cap

Or even Aromamizer V RDA nice flavourful rda , too , both include the sqounker pin

But im sure many others will have there preferred options ,
Both of those i listed are like 15£ each an genuine authentic RDA,s cheap enough , GearBest sales , or Someone else will post the ones there happy with.

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Im still awaiting patiently for coppervapes bf kit , ive ordered from two places , fasttech an Gearbest to see which arrives quicker , I say patiently ,but not really ,Im up checking the post daily to see if any have arrived , also checking the tracking which isnt updating either [emoji144].
Which is about the only thing i can do [emoji22],

 

[kazz63758]

But oh, that atty.

I know some owners have got it to work fine, but as far as I can tell they're mostly sub-ohming lung-hitters, which we're not. Single 28g Kanthal coils in the 1.2 - 1.5 ohm range, a tightish draw (about like an ordinary filter cigarette) suit our needs, and the kit atty just won't cut it. No flavor. Too bad, because it's easy to build, and roomy compared to the RM2s we're using now. Plus the kit atty's profile & diameter really suit the mod. Looks kind of dorky with the skinny RM2 perched on top.

So naturally, I'm hoping someone can point us in the right direction. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

You are almost in exactly the same situation that I was in. Only difference being I like 0.8-1.0 ohm.

The Origen Little 16 is the closest in flavor, draw, etc to a RM2 and what I have started using. Easy to build on, and you can shut the air flow down to a ERA, Chalice, RM2 type draw. It is still a bit smaller sitting on top, but looks OK. It is also more roomy to build on than a RM2.

Or, if you want a 22mm atty--the best I have found for my preference is the NaRDA. You can shut down the air flow to ALMOST where you are used to. (but not quite) It does look great on the CopperVape.

Good luck with your search!

 

[Blind Owl]

Thanks, benley73. I can't help wondering, though, if the Wolfpaw wouldn't leak out the airholes if I over-squonk it. One thing I do like about the RM2 is the small airhole fairly high up on the body. It takes almost a white-knuckle grip to make that thing drool.

I'll be sure to check them both out.

Re: waiting for Slowtech, this was the first time I've ordered anything from them. Placed the order on August 30, and finally—finally!—picked it up at the local P.O. late last week. Hope that cheers you up.

 

[TheWestPole]

I'm liking my Coppervape, and glad I followed this thread & decided to spring for a couple, one each for me and my wife. I was looking for a backup to our faithful old REO LP Grands and feeling too cheap to spring for another pair. As far as sturdiness, performance, and ease of use are concerned, this thing seems like a winner! No teething troubles of any kind, and best of all I don't feel as if I'm slumming when I vape this baby (that was a very mild dig @ some of my fellow Reonauts ).

But oh, that atty.

I know some owners have got it to work fine, but as far as I can tell they're mostly sub-ohming lung-hitters, which we're not. Single 28g Kanthal coils in the 1.2 - 1.5 ohm range, a tightish draw (about like an ordinary filter cigarette) suit our needs, and the kit atty just won't cut it. No flavor. Too bad, because it's easy to build, and roomy compared to the RM2s we're using now. Plus the kit atty's profile & diameter really suit the mod. Looks kind of dorky with the skinny RM2 perched on top.

So naturally, I'm hoping someone can point us in the right direction. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

For a 22 mm single coil, NarDa. Quite good with a smaller coil. Though I'm liking NoPity with a big SS single build even more.

ETA: Oops, I forgot to mention you have to convert it to BF.

 

[benley73]

For a 22 mm single coil, NarDa. Quite good with a smaller coil. Though I'm liking NoPity with a BIG SS single build even more.

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ETA: Oops, I forgot to mention you have to convert it to BF.

That one looks sweet as , the V RDA wouldn't leak , an yes the wolfpaw would weep if over sqounked on it , like most side airflow /direct inline with coil builds would , shame the obs cheeta didnt come with adjustable 510 , that would of been interesting since its top airflow works so well, As the OBS Engine does also provides a great vape , infact its one of the only ones ive enjoyed the top airflow on ,

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[benley73]

This is now the changing market for RDA atties , if its got a level base and adjusting 510 then there's a possibility of converting them over to bottom feeds , We could do with a useful list of RDA,s that are already available or possible to convert over , more so for top airflow or high side airflow RDA,s peole could post updates to the list as new ones becomes available , Maybe there is already a list and ive missed it ?

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[benley73]

Is there any long hollow 510 pins out , with holes on the sides , say for a small RDTA type like the ivogo velocity RDTA , so the 510 can refill its small tank , that also would be nice. Since this little velocity can put out some nice flavours at low w , be very interested in a 510 that could allow its tank to be refilled ,even a long one that reached to the ceramic deck would flow back into the tank or wicks ,

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Think i may need to strip this down an get measurements of the length of the 510 if possible , would be Nice rather than having to refill it constantly, having a longer hollow 510 pin would solve that problem Hmm ,

 

[herb]

I am waiting on a clone of the Snapdragon 1.5 , many requests into FT for that and the only other one i am interested in is the No Pity No toy clone but not available yet.

The Origen little is the one that i have coming currently , just way too many exceptional reviews on that one & nearly impossible to find a negative.