Coronavirus and ordering from China

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Eskie

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Right now it's very, very hard to say with certainty what the mortality rate is. IF the current numbers hold, and I doubt the Chinese have inflated the number if deaths, a 5 fold increase still leaves you with something well above seasonal flu. Even at 10 fold, and the deaths to date are accurate, it's still twice the mortality rate of the average flu.

But there is a need for far more data to firm that up, and mortality rates aren't the only issue with this, or any other infection. How long are people ill for who are severely infected? If it's 3 to 4 weeks that's a huge drain on the medical system. Will those severely infected who do survive be left with permanent consequences from the illness, like chronic lung damage? China built 2 1,000 bed hospitals in 2 weeks. That's a pretty amazing figure. But you still have the logistical problems of manufacturing and delivering all the healthcare products that are needed. There are economic losses when an outbreak of an illness is severe enough to start causing quarantines in a country the financial size of China. I mean, we see it just in a normal flu season, but that's built into most economic forecasts, but something like this isn't

If the rest of your industry is shut down, where do all the hospital supplies come from? There are already severe shortages of personal protection products for medial staff to use. And 1,600 medical workers have already been infected with some deaths. There are the economic impacts, both within and outside of China. We do live in a global economy. The bank HSBC, based in London, is laying off 35,000 workers as it projects the need to save $4.5 Billion dollars in anticipation of a drop revenue. A number of airlines, especially those most active in the Far East will end up in bankruptcy.

South Korea has already declared a state of emergency as they foresee a lack of components needed for manufacturing finished products nailing their economy. Automobile factories are already closing and laying off workers due to the supply chain impact. Germany is looking a substantial drop in demand for higher end cars like Mercedes which relied on what was growing demand for their cars in China. It may force them into a recession.

There are more areas which can be affected by a breakout like this. there's the FUD factor, and the very real economic consequences when a major industrial provider is shut down. And it's reflected across the board as we can personally experience from the disruption to distributor like FT. We still don't know where things stand with the actual manufacturers of vape gear. Are smok, Asmodus, and all the rest back up to normal production yet? Will there be a shortage of products available to consumers from this, and for how long?
 

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All I can tell you is the world is paranoid about this. My Spring allergies kicked in with a vengeance and the drainage has caused bronchitis. You do not what to know the nastiness I have been subjected to just going to walgreens for my meds. People would happily have me shot for daring to poke my nose out my front door while sick. No I do NOT have coronavirus. This is normal every year allergies + some complications from those. Sheesh!
 

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imho,, this was intended to be a weapon,, it back fired because the chinese mis- estimated the incubation period so it ended up hurting them more than the rest of the world. russia isnt allowing any chinese in for a visit.

meantime i have no faith in any govt to contain it,, in fact i think they would welcome it as a little bit of culling of each countries weakest/sickest/oldest/dirtiest of people. meaning those barely hanging on healthwise,, the old & their cost on our social security/services,, and the homeless popultion. please dont read any of this as my wish,, im using critical thinking about likely targets.

schools, hospitals, nursing homes and homeless camps are most at risk imho. followed by sporting events, concerts, and church sevices... places where there are large groups of people mostly 'contained'.. we already see this on cruise ships. (planes/uber/ busses/trains will offer a free ride for virus' too)

the who/cdc/fda all clowns,, paid for by whatever group stuffed their pockets 10 minutes ago. watching to see the social mood if/when we top 3000 deaths,, passing up 911 death count.

robberies in china right now are about food and toilet paper,,,,,,,,,get some now, dont wait until May, I would also get cleaning products, bleach and bandages in the event you need them.


 
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There is no evidence whatsoever that this was made in a biolab. If it was, they did a terrible job, as killing a bunch of old already sick people isn’t exactly a weapon that will win a war.
I'm not sure about that. The fact that there is a biolab a very short distance from the market that was claimed as the point of origination. The fact that Dr. Charles Lieber, of Harvard, who was an expert at nanoscience, was recently arrested and 2 of his chinese assistants, one who turned out to be in China's military, who as I recall, was trying to take a sample of something back to China. No, not a closed book, but enough to be curious as to what is really going on here.

Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases
 

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I'm not sure about that. The fact that there is a biolab a very short distance from the market that was claimed as the point of origination. The fact that Dr. Charles Lieber, of Harvard, who was an expert at nanoscience, was recently arrested and 2 of his chinese assistants, one who turned out to be in China's military, who as I recall, was trying to take a sample of something back to China. No, not a closed book, but enough to be curious as to what is really going on here.

Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three Separate China Related Cases
I have seen several videos of young people,,, this guy not doing well if not already dead.

 
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They are shipping, so long as they have the items in stock. ETAs on out of stock items seem to be pushed out, I'm guessing many of their suppliers aren't fully back to work.

Right now, I'd only order "in stock" or "ships next day" items.

Everything I ordered from FT Jan. 25th was either "in stock" or "ships next day", now 3/4 of the order is "restocking" with dates as late as 2/26. I can't win for losing.
 

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Well, I'm not going to believe THAT unless I hear it directly from "Q".
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she was too busy making doughnuts
btw, that's one of my fav. US politics pics of all time. :facepalm:
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Even more favorite than this one of Michelle Bachman?
Or Rick Perry?
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How about Bernie Sanders? Politicians should be careful when making donuts or eating corn dogs.
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