Cost of Mods - Is it worth that next step

[dbev]

I started vaping 3 weeks ago prompted by a nephew who started in July. I have watched tons of videos discussing how good this mod or that mod is. My question is this: If a battery is a battery, isn't it what you put on the battery the thing that really makes a difference? VV's, VW's, mech mods, etc. if you are using the same atty that you were using on your 1100mah twist, isn't it the same thing?

Is it worth the move to that bigger, fancier item?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Welcome to ecf.

First, let me just say, that if the setup you are using keeps the cravings for real cigarettes away, then there is no need to 'upgrade' to a more powerful ecig. However, depending on how heavy a smoker you were and the amt of time smoking, you may need devices that can deliver a more powerful punch. Since everyone is different, there are several ways to reach the same goal. General rule of thumb is that the closer an egic looks like a real cig, you just don't get what is needed to really get the job done. There are smaller batteries, such as 510's or 808D which are very similar to a cigarette(analog, is what we refer to as cigarettes here). The bigger the battery, the harder the hit, the more battery life one can expect.
So really, it is an individual choice based on your own experience as to what will keep you off the stinkies.
Hopes this helps a smidgen..

 

[sawlight]

Yes, and no. Sorry. VV/VW gives you a lot of options to use what you can get ahold of at the time, rather than what you HAVE to have to make it work, which can be a hassle in this day and age of vaping.
When your twist dies, you have to throw the whole thing away, one of my biggest peeves with these devices, this can cost $12-30 depending on the unit. A battery mod, you are out $6-12 for a battery, which you will have spares for, and you go on.
I love the form factor of the Ego's, just hate that it's all junk when it dies. Then figure how many you go through in a year, three years, four years. Buy a solid battery mod, it's still going long after all the Ego's have died. Say you go through two Ego's a year, at $16 ea, that's $32 a year, which is a rough number at best, in two years you have spent $64, three, $96. That's a couple of Zmax's bought right.
I'm terribly hard on things, I drop them, they roll down the driveway, and so on, I killed three cig-alike batteries in one day! I was "gifted" an Altsmoke BB, best thing to happen to me! I could drop it, I could get it wet, I could drive over it, and it still worked! I have a Provari, I drop it from 3' onto concrete to show it's durability and don't flinch when I do! I have a Legacy mech., I don't much worry about anything I do to it, I can't hurt it!
So, yes, what you put on it makes the most difference in how it vapes, dealing with mechanical's I know that as well as anyone, but what you expect out of it matters just as much.

 

[State O' Flux]

If you want to "try out" a VV-VW mod without spending lots of money or moving away from the eGo form factor, get yourself a $35 Innokin iTaste 3.0. All the bells and whistles in a "stick", 800mAh, pass-through mod that you can hand off to someone else after you've decided you need something with a bit more battery capacity and the accompanying larger form factor.

Oh yeah... welcome to the asylum dbev. ;-)

 

[retic1959]

I agree with sawlight, the economics of simply replacing batteries instead of the whole unit pushed me to get an APV and having different tanks , clearos with different resistance ratings makes vv/vw a must.

 

[Baditude]

Mods is where it's at dude.

 

[dbev]

Excellent points. This process is turning into hobby, that's not a bad thing. Seeing all the youtube stuff makes me want a big gun. For me, it wasn't cigs but cigars. 5 to 6 a day. Vaping is much more fun and I even smell better! Can you believe that? My vehicles also! Any way, the big guns look like, well, cool. Considering an SVD because then I can use the many ego tanks I have collected, but I just thought hmmm, what about an expensive tank. You know?

 

[fancypants]

If you want to "try out" a VV-VW mod without spending lots of money or moving away from the eGo form factor, get yourself a $35 Innokin iTaste 3.0. All the bells and whistles in a "stick", 800mAh, pass-through mod that you can hand off to someone else after you've decided you need something with a bit more battery capacity and the accompanying larger form factor.

Oh yeah... welcome to the asylum dbev. ;-)

I agree, I just got mine, I love that one! Very easy to use. My eGos are going out now, it's barely been 2 weeks on one and a month on the other and a little over a month on my others and having problems. I believe my problem is the B&M where I purchased them. But I'm sure I'll always have a couple on hand.

 

[Thrasher]

when I started i used egos as well. and like you I saw all these mods and what appealed to me originally was cost effectiveness, I did not like the idea of buying a battery in a case that costs 20+ dollars and was destined for the trash eventually. i like the idea of having one body with several batteries i could change out as needed.
then I got one. and found they have better power output. usually last longer and have more features, like check the resistance and battery voltage.

I could never go back to using an ego, they work, no doubt but they feel very underpowered and uneven with the output to me now.

 

[sawlight]

Many will argue with me, but to me, a tank is a tank is a tank! It's what you put in it that matters! If you use citrus type juices, or Pluid, you need a glass tank! I don't, so I use about any tank I can get ahold of and am happy. BUT I'm a huge fan of Ikenvape cartomizers and do my best to use them exclusively!
I have yet to find a clearomizer, Vivi Nova, Pro tank and so on, that I like! I either drip or use a carto tank!

 

[State O' Flux]

Mods is where it's at dude.

You are just full of it tonight I see. Did you get a new mech or something in vapemail?

My eGos are going out now, it's barely been 2 weeks on one and a month on the other and a little over a month on my others and having problems. I believe my problem is the B&M where I purchased them. But I'm sure I'll always have a couple on hand.

Problem with eGos is that everyone and their idiot twin sister makes them... and they range from crap to ones that will take 300 plus recharges. Best you can do (If eGos are your thing) is get a name brand... like the originator, JoyeTech.

 

[SirSteve]

Like has been already stated, if you want more battery life,if you want VW, if you want to go beyond 4.8 volts, then you would need to move up. Twist is a good device, I have a 1300 Mah Spinner, different company, same type of device. I like it very much, however it is mostly used as my on the go device, for home I use the bigger battery devices. Another advantage someone pointed out, over time the rechargeable changeable batteries will be more cost effective, it much cheaper to replace an 18650 than it is to replace the Twist.

Twist/Spinners are excellent in their own right. The other devices have advantages also, it really depends on you. If you are happy with the Twist, like the form factor and size, like the fact that is very easy to use, and it does what you want, then no need to rush into something else.

Some people aren't crazy about the size of the big battery mods,just something else to consider. You seem to doing pretty good, hope whatever you decide on makes you happy.

Edit, just read that you are considering the SVD, nice choice and you can get it fairly cheap from Fasttech.

 

[sawlight]

Like has been already stated, if you want more battery life,if you want VW, if you want to go beyond 4.8 volts, then you would need to move up. Twist is a good device, I have a 1300 Mah Spinner, different company, same type of device. I like it very much, however it is mostly used as my on the go device, for home I use the bigger battery devices. Another advantage someone pointed out, over time the rechargeable changeable batteries will be more cost effective, it much cheaper to replace an 18650 than it is to replace the Twist.

Twist/Spinners are excellent in their own right. The other devices have advantages also, it really depends on you. If you are happy with the Twist, like the form factor and size, like the fact that is very easy to use, and it does what you want, then no need to rush into something else.

Some people aren't crazy about the size of the big battery mods,just something else to consider. You seem to doing pretty good, hope whatever you decide on makes you happy.

Edit, just read that you are considering the SVD, nice choice and you can get it fairly cheap from Fasttech.

And there you go! If it works, you are happy, why change? You asked, so I tried to give you the viable reason's for the upgrade, but if it doesn't suit you, there's no need.

 

[Lombaowski]

I started vaping 3 weeks ago prompted by a nephew who started in July. I have watched tons of videos discussing how good this mod or that mod is. My question is this: If a battery is a battery, isn't it what you put on the battery the thing that really makes a difference? VV's, VW's, mech mods, etc. if you are using the same atty that you were using on your 1100mah twist, isn't it the same thing?

Is it worth the move to that bigger, fancier item?

It's a matter of personal preference IMO. I've read a lot, tried a lot of different mods (Provari, Zmax, Vamo), bought one (Itaste MVP) and used different toppers on most of them. The Provari is great because from the first hit until the battery dies the output remains the same. The others work like a eGo Twist does. 3.2 to 4.8v output lets you put anything from an EVOD to a SR cartomizer on there with some room for error. I don't have one juice vessel that requires more than 4.5 volts. I found no difference between the vape on any topper from the VAMO, iTaste MVP or ZMAX to the Twist, none. Same vape.

Variable wattage is certainly nice because you can switch out toppers and the device adjusts to you. But after vaping on a topper for so long, a simple twist of the twist gets you from 3.8v needed for a iclear 16 to 4.4 needed for an Artemas with a 2.5ohm carto. So I can live without it.

I don't get the throw away thought on the eGo vs a Mod either, you have to buy 18350 batteries or whatver size you like and those will die just like an eGo would. Maybe some gain over time but the size and practicality of an eGo vs a VAMO or something makes the eGo a better purchase IMO.

Vaping seems to be something people identify with however, a hobby or a collector's paradise. So if you like the Innokin 134, buy it. If you care about money and practicality stay with the Twist, but a spare or get some eGo 650mAh upgrade vv batteries. I use them every day, love them. They go in shirt pockets, jeans and are relatively concealable. I have the itaste MVP 1 and have the 2.0 on the way because they deliver long battery life, and also are portable enough to take pretty much everywhere you go. To me this is a key requirement, for others...it may not be.

I think vv is a must, I think portability and practicality is a must and I think aesthetics and personalization are important. If a device has all that, I'm interested.

Also a lot of this is probably not only personal preference, but a mindset. While I hate tube mods, others may like them exclusively. Some don't like teh boxy MVP, I like that one more than anything. Whatever glove fits...

 

[zanestone]

I started off with a V2-Mega(SLB) but was unhappy as they kept dying on me. I purchased an iTaste SVD a couple of weeks ago and am loving it. I like that I can set the power rating and not have to adjust the voltage for my various tank setups. Very solid so far.

 

[tj99959]

All I can say is that there are a bazillion different ways to vape, and you will never know which you like best if you have only tried one.

 

[fourtytwo]

I started out 16 months ago and still have and use the first eGo that I bought.
All batteries last for somewhere about 300 charges.
I have a number of large devices that use 18650 batteries and 10 eGos. I have found that more then half of my vape time is with simple, inexpensive eGos.

 

[ugot]

I agree with you, I have tried lot of stuff myself. And some are grail for someone and Junk for you. There is two many variables.

 

[BustaMooooove]

There were a few reasons I personally upgraded, dbev..
1. I couldn't stop thinking of them.
2. Mod Envy (not ashamed to admit it!)
3. I wanted to be able to have more control!

The best part is when I am at home in the evening, I can turn the voltage way down and vape for a long time. If I am in a class and only have 5 minutes to get to my next class, I can crank it up and get a few good strong vapes in a short amount of time.
In my opinion, using a bigger tank = better flavor and cooler vapor. Of course this all depends on the set up..

But if you're thinking about it, it's worth it. And if you're like me, those thoughts won't go away.
Good luck!