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[Thunderball]

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sounds like a possible pg allergy more than anything. many people vape nothing but 100% vg

This sounds reasonable. Or you could check yourself in to a facility that can give you some professional help. As part of the other 2%, I think this is the advice you should follow.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

100% VG does, indeed, cause wicking issues and what not. It also doesn't carry the flavor as well. However, the only way to resolve the flavor issue is to use PG, which at this point I'm thinking you're somewhat allergic to. Use VG on a dripping device if you want better flavor from it. You won't have a wick at all that way. Or build your own coils with wicks so you can try different materials. The vape community and the vendors aren't going to change all their materials and ingredients because GoodNews has a sensitivity to them. Sorry for the extra work that would be involved, but others do it and I don't see why you couldn't.

 

[catalinaflyer]

I got it, I have the solution-

Go to Wal-Mart (you'll be accepted there I hope) and in the pharmacy area you'll find stuff such as isopropyl alcohol and near that you'll also find USP Glycerin (VG), it's pure, unflavored and perfect for you.

Then build one of these in your new RDA but for gawd sakes leave the cotton out of it

then drip a little VG on each coil, vape, drip, vape, drip...........

Or go back to analogues, they seem to be a lot less problematic for you.

 

[Thunderball]

100% VG does, indeed, cause wicking issues and what not. It also doesn't carry the flavor as well. However, the only way to resolve the flavor issue is to use PG, which at this point I'm thinking you're somewhat allergic to. Use VG on a dripping device if you want better flavor from it. You won't have a wick at all that way. Or build your own coils with wicks so you can try different materials. The vape community and the vendors aren't going to change all their materials and ingredients because GoodNews has a sensitivity to them. Sorry for the extra work that would be involved, but others do it and I don't see why you couldn't.

He cant do it because that would be "BadNews".

 

[Thrasher]

even at 4.8volts a 3.5 ohm anything is only pulling 6 watts, i dont think you really know how much vapor the cisco can put out if you actually ran one in the correct power range

I used to use the cisco's and the I06 and they are fog machines, and if you cant get that effect from them your doing something wrong.

just for comparison if it was running at the correct power you should easily expect 2 or 3 times the vapor of a crappy clearo.

running a 3.5 as low as you did im surprised it didnt gunk up and die faster. there would be no premature buildup had you been using it properly. how you think this was the way it is suppsed to taste is beyond me, all i get from underpowered devices is a pure clean sugar flavor.

more and more - and i mean this with no malice - i think you really do not understand how to properly use your equipment. whether you want to admit it or not this is the reason you are ahving all these odd issues and learning to properly run your setup should be your first step.

 

[Iffy]

You know nuvapors forum LOVES this kinda stuffs....just sayin

 

[GoodNews!]

I know they wouldn't change their crap if I only had a sensitivity to it, but if I one day line up a bunch of people, get a single juice that itself comes in pure PG, 50/50, and pure VG, and line people up and ask which one of the three tastes "cleaner", and if any give off sort of a metallic or socky taste, then hey, it'd be a nice experiment. Until that day comes, I guess I'll shut up.

THEY GET BANNED FROM THE EXPERIMENT THOUGH IF THEY DON'T TILT. Actually it's true, that's why I have my sig, because I agree totally that tilting is required for little clearos (though results have still been very mixed.)

And I have to say I'm not sensitive to PG, again, worked fine on the Cisco. For tonight, I'll accept the explaination that it's what caused the Cisco to gunk in 30 minutes (ashy tasting, which is normal, not socky tasting) and is what causes other, lesser devices simply to taste like socks, even when I'm only using VG.

Instead, I'm buying some Cisco coils! It's sort of neat that they sell them anyway, a lot of companies don't bother wrapping the normal-coil RDA replacements with drill bits, but Cisco, and I think that's going to be a nice touch that solves a lot right there. Lets me try NiChrome too, just to see.

 

[catalinaflyer]

I guess I'll shut up.

Okay Mods, he said it, the game is over, gather the committee, take a vote..............

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I got it, I have the solution-

Go to Wal-Mart (you'll be accepted there I hope) and in the pharmacy area you'll find stuff such as isopropyl alcohol and near that you'll also find USP Glycerin (VG), it's pure, unflavored and perfect for you.

Then build one of these in your new RDA but for gawd sakes leave the cotton out of it

then drip a little VG on each coil, vape, drip, vape, drip...........

Or go back to analogues, they seem to be a lot less problematic for you.

From reading some of the OPs previous posts it seems he still smokes cigarettes, which would explain to any sane person his extremely unique taste issues.

 

[danny4x4]

But I vaped my PG juices on the Cisco and nothing , no allergies! Fast gunking though (but without any of that "sock" taste, which was another mystery.) Just ashy tasting gunk, which is normal.

If high pg in a Cisco works for you, but on a fluxomizer you need to use high vg instead, then just have 2 setups. That's the point I'm trying to bring across to you. Stick with what you know works for you.

 

[GoodNews!]

But I smoked while Cisco'ing!

And @ thrasher, the other mystery is that the Cisco was producing about as much vapor as an Aspire. That's a lot. Both flavor and vapor stopped improving at 4.1V's, and actually both got slightly worse above that.

You think there's a chance they seriously might have just sent me the wrong thing? I'm beginning to wonder.... it all never made much real sense to me other than seeing what looked like a huge microcoil in the thing. I couldn't have really told anyone any real science behind why I was getting such huge plumes and flavor on something like a 3.5, when I'm vaping a 2.8 carto that is just giving me struggling vapor at 4.8V's.

 

[Thrasher]

From reading some of the OPs previous posts it seems he still smokes cigarettes, which would explain to any sane person his extremely unique taste issues.

100% agree, you will never get the full effect from vaping and smoking and the vapor will always irritate the throat -


i keep forgetting you still smoke, your throat is exposed from the smoking and the vapor makes many smokers throats sore or causes coughing, there is no way if you still smoke that you taste things correctly. the dusty feeling is the vapor sticking to the back of the throat and loosening up the tar coating exposing the raw skin. this saturation/removal effect is also why you can swallow something. pg/vg is actually a softener and cleaner in the throat.

 

[catalinaflyer]

From reading some of the OPs previous posts it seems he still smokes cigarettes, which would explain to any sane person his extremely unique taste issues.

Oh we have been over that many MANY times. Seems like the rest of the world goes through a process where initially the juices they ultimately wind up vaping taste bad till their taste buds get over analogues. However we're all wrong, just ask.

But just for fun I went back and tried the original juice I started vaping with, it was horrible and the salted caramel I'm vaping tonight tasted worse than horrible when I first started vaping but now it's heavenly.

 

[Thunderball]

Okay Mods, he said it, the game is over, gather the committee, take a vote..............

What happend to the cool plane ?

Ahh. Youve landed and time for a high-ball ?

 

[catalinaflyer]

And @ thrasher, the other mystery is that the Cisco was producing about as much vapor as an Aspire. That's a lot. Both flavor and vapor stopped improving at 4.1V's, and actually both got slightly worse above that.

A properly working Cisco will give 5 times the vapor of the absolute best STOCK Aspire.

 

[GoodNews!]

But I smoked while Cisco'ing!

That's what's the mystery that causes me to believe my tongue isn't effected in the least by smoking.
Was getting great and full flavor on the Cisco - beautiful.
Turned right around and tested many other devices while vaping the Cisco, because I'm like that.
Horrible results.
Cigarettes all in between.
None of the results changed.

 

[catalinaflyer]

What happend to the cool plane ?

Ahh. Youve landed and time for a high-ball ?

The "cool" plane is in the hanger for the night, and yes our next flight isn't till 10:40 EST on Monday so a nice bottle of Tigran 20 year is on for the rest of the weekend.

 

[GoodNews!]

A properly working Cisco will give 5 times the vapor of the absolute best STOCK Aspire.

Oh wow, then I was missing something, if that really was the case! I'm ordering the 1.8 and 2.2 coil then (I forgot exactly what they have, but it's that range).

But it kind of makes me wonder.... even if 3.5ohms at 4.1V's is a totally wrong way to vape, could it have possibly been some kind of combination that caused the flavor to taste clean to me (at least for 30 minutes then an organic ashy gunk instead of the INSTANT sock I taste on the first puff of any other device?)

I got 30 minutes with the heavenly Cisco. That was worth $13 after everything I've experienced. And when it got gunked, it only tasted organically a little ashy, I still could vape it for awhile, no real negative tastes, it was just that tobaccos worked well with that little bit of ashy gunking. After an hour is really when the device went caput in terms of any flavor left.

 

[Thrasher]

That's what's the mystery that causes me to believe my tongue isn't effected in the least by smoking.

whether you believe it or not it is.
i know you dont want to believe that and somehow like to think your body is differnt but your begging for answers and this is the one thing through all of this you never change.

you go for a while the tongue accepts the flavor, then you wack it out again smoking then vaping some more, your body and sensory sytem cannot adjust, this is not rare, not new and many go through it until they stop smoking.

Oh wow, then I was missing something,

THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU FOR A MONTH NOW, your not vaping correctly.

A properly working Cisco will give 5 times the vapor of the absolute best STOCK Aspire.

why else do you think people are willing to pay 13 bucks for a disposable dripper LOL

 

[catalinaflyer]

Oh wow, then I was missing something, if that really was the case! I'm ordering the 1.8 and 2.2 coil then (I forgot exactly what they have, but it's that range).

But it kind of makes me wonder.... even if 3.5ohms at 4.1V's is a totally wrong way to vape, could it have possibly been some kind of combination that caused the flavor to taste clean to me (at least for 30 minutes instead of the INSTANT sock I taste on the first puff of any other device?)

Why or where you get the sock taste is truly a mystery. However the difference between a Cisco and an Aspire head are like night and day. The Cicso is hand built, 1 at a time by people who take the time to make sure they are perfect. The Aspire head is mass produced in a factory where they only care about the number produced not the quality of the product. Almost any hand crafted anything will be better by magnitudes than a mass produced anything. In mass production, you build enough and the law of averages takes hold and there will be a few great ones, many average and a few bad. In hand crafting there is no law of averages, the person/'s doing the crafting are making sure each article is the absolute best it can be.