Could someone please name one industry the FDA regulated out of existence

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Maybe not a whole industry, but try reading about the history of stevia. Sure, it's sold as a sweetener now, but before Coca-cola and Pepsi jumped on board the FDA tried to have it outright banned from this country, even to the point of burning cookbooks based around it. The only way it survived was classified as a supplement.

The people yelling taxes just don't quite get it yet. The FDA doesn't care a whit about taxes since most of their budget is NOT paid by you and me. Their budget is funded for the most part by the pharmaceutical companies, who are losing money on NRTs, and the tobacco companies, who are losing money on cigarettes. Will these deeming regs wipe out the whole industry? No, but it will certainly leave it in the hands of the cigarette companies, who will decide a year or two later that the e-cigarette industry isn't nearly as lucrative as they originally thought it would be and shut down those particular production lines.
 

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So I basically see a bunch of people who are liberal vapers trying to justify the government while having a sinking feeling in the stomach that this time there precious care takers of the people are going to take the sucker they really like out of there hand. The problem they are coming to grips with is its easy to talk about things from your sofa or read opinions and feel all justified about your position but when something that matters to you is affected by the actions of the government its not nearly as fun. The government always goes to far no matter what the situation is. The government is a necessary evil at best and it should always be viewed as such.
 

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FDA does not Regulate industries out of business.

More like Highest Bidder with a Carefully planned business Model wins.

Create Regulations to fit the need of the top Lobbyist(Corporate funded) and make it impossible for even better business to comply.
Late to the game - you loose
Out of spec product - you loose
Matched Product....... well, depends on(lobbying) you may loose.

tobacco division has grown from a Few to hundreds of employees while regulations have remained unchanged and Corporate competition has become stagnate.
Why the need?o_O
$$$

Don't get me started on Osha:facepalm:

Just my opinion............we all have them:)
 

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Career Politicians Are A Cancer On Democracy. They Breed Alphabet Organizations (FDA, CDC, WHO, etc) That Edict And Are Responsible To No One, Except The 'Political Flies' That Appoint Them. It Is Way Past Time That We The People Have Had Enough. If You Are A Career Politician And My Vote Counts You Will Be Unemployed.
I'm Mad As Hell And I'm Not Gonna Take It Anymore!

I'm with you. It's time for a new revolution!

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The FDA doesn't care a whit about taxes since most of their budget is NOT paid by you and me. Their budget is funded for the most part by the pharmaceutical companies,

Unfortunately that was a Swing and a miss. Where do the Pharmaceutical companies get their funding? Yes the FDA gets Fat off YOU AND Me and they know it.

Notice how long it has been since a CURE for anything hit the Market?

Not Profitable!:glare:
 

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Unfortunately that was a Swing and a miss. Where do the Pharmaceutical companies get their funding? Yes the FDA gets Fat off YOU AND Me and they know it.

Notice how long it has been since a CURE for anything hit the Market?

Not Profitable!:glare:

Hmm... I dunno. My husband is currently doing an anti-viral regime, courtesy of the VA, which has a "98% chance" of *curing* Hep C. He's been taking it since mid-August, and his last bloodwork showed 0 hep C virus, but the full regime runs thru February. I'd say it's looking real good for a total cure.

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Unfortunately that was a Swing and a miss. Where do the Pharmaceutical companies get their funding? Yes the FDA gets Fat off YOU AND Me and they know it.

Notice how long it has been since a CURE for anything hit the Market?

Not Profitable!:glare:

True, but before 1992 the FDA was funded by tax dollars, making them accountable to us: the individuals that paid their salaries. Since the Prescription Drug User Fee Act, it's funded almost completely by fees from the various industries it's supposed to police, which effectively puts it in the position of protecting them rather than us. You'll also notice a sharp decline in government oversight of the FDA since that time. They have basically become their own entity.
 

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Unfortunately that was a Swing and a miss. Where do the Pharmaceutical companies get their funding? Yes the FDA gets Fat off YOU AND Me and they know it.

Notice how long it has been since a CURE for anything hit the Market?

Not Profitable!:glare:

Not only is "cure" not profitable, but unless the FDA gets paid, it's illegal to even state it.
Gotta protect the companies providing "treatment".
 

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Hmm... I dunno. My husband is currently doing an anti-viral regime, courtesy of the VA, which has a "98% chance" of *curing* Hep C. He's been taking it since mid-August, and his last bloodwork showed 0 hep C virus, but the full regime runs thru February. I'd say it's looking real good for a total cure.

Andria

Was this a Pharmaceutical development or a University/Medical discovery/Development? I have seen some amazing advancements thanks to the Educational sector.

* Best to your Hubby!
 

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Was this a Pharmaceutical development or a University/Medical discovery/Development? I have seen some amazing advancements thanks to the Educational sector.

* Best to your Hubby!

Don't know. I know it's *not* the one currently being advertised on TV; he inquired about it, and the cost is absolutely, mind-blowingly staggering. So of course the VA doesn't use it. But they suggested the course he's currently on, as being the next best thing, particularly for someone in excellent health and fitness who doesn't drink or smoke. I was surprised and beyond pleased when he told me the latest bloodwork showed zero "live" virus.

Andria

ETA: it does occur to me to mention that the VA here in Atlanta is in the same little "neighborhood" as Emory (university and hospital) as well as the infamous CDC. So it's entirely possible that this is something from Emory, they're quite on the leading edge.
 

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So I basically see a bunch of people who are liberal vapers trying to justify the government while having a sinking feeling in the stomach that this time there precious care takers of the people are going to take the sucker they really like out of there hand. The problem they are coming to grips with is its easy to talk about things from your sofa or read opinions and feel all justified about your position but when something that matters to you is affected by the actions of the government its not nearly as fun. The government always goes to far no matter what the situation is. The government is a necessary evil at best and it should always be viewed as such.

Seriously ?
So legalize "cash crops" sales and ban all e cig contraband from 2007 till present ? That's not Government my friend .............
 
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There is something extremely wrong when every other commercial on TV is a 'drug' of the day for a 'made up' disease--with more harmful side effects than good that could be noticed from taking the said 'drug' of the day. Most of the side effects these days include the words 'fatal' or 'accidental death' as a side effect--but all the people shown in said commercial are smiling and loving life.

On top of that the said 'drug' of the day for a made up disease--can't be purchased over the counter by any consumer watching the commercial--it can ONLY be obtained by getting a prescription from a physician. Of course not the physician that you would choose--but one the government says is approved by them for you to see.

Those commercials are followed by the lawyers who are hawking their services to get millions of dollars for those who were 'harmed' by taking the 'drug of the day' for a made up disease from last month. And the cycle continues and the commercials multiply. I try to only watch DVR so I don't have to watch said commercials because they make me furious--but sometimes as right now stuck in a hotel with no DVR--I am forced to watch them or at least hear them when the TV is on.

It is always about Money and Greed.

The FDA and all Government programs could care less about a person's health or well being. Greed will be the downfall of our society as we know it. Control is the only way they can assure that the money goes where they want it to go!
 
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