Cutting nic liquid from the start??

[bogeyjim]

Ive got a question for you master DIY'ers out there

I've got a whole bunch of 60mg nic coming soon. I want to vape at 15mg.

if i cut this 4:1 ill be left with 15mg nic juice, but then when adding flavors, my nic will drop correct because of the additional flavors?

How do i figure where to cut it so my final product is 15mg? Especially if my flavor percentages will vary with each flavor?

Or do i make it 20mg to leave room for bringing it down to 15??

Thanks!

 

[Drox]

I use a DIY calcualtor. If you have an Iphone check out ejuice. Or you can go to e-Liquid Calculator - DIY e-Juice Recipe Assistant. Good luck

 

[bogeyjim]

hmm, downloaded the app. ill check that out....

any recommendations on bottles to use when cutting my nic liquid for storage?

 

[babemomlover]

I would recommend to not cut the liquid at all.
It's not THAT dangerous if you're careful at all and wear gloves and dont use that high of a percentage.

The only difficult part about cutting is what if you find a flavor that is good at 25% and then you end up with a lower nic than what you aimed for.

I would just say get the highest nic you can (unless you're new to it) and add 0mg bases to ur mix.

Besides, the nic is cheaper the higher percentage you get

 

[Fiamma]

I vape low nic at 4mg.

To make my juice, I do not cut my nic ahead of time, I use it per my juice calculator. Keep it in the fridge or the freezer and it stays good for a long long time. Mine comes in glass bottles.

 

[Drox]

Yeah dark glass dropper bottles are the best. I find mine at a little health herb store.

 

[the_vape_nerd]

I would only cut it once. The higher the nic strength you have, the more options you have later on when it comes to final PG/VG ratio. 30 mg is not all that dangerous. If you use only one base all the time say like 70/30 and you plan on using that all the time, then it's fine to go ahead and pre-mix a base. The ejuice calculator from breaktru will make that as easy as pie for you. Just make sure you understand all of the fields and know how to use it before you start.

 

[Xaiver]

I buy 36mg nic, have 500mls or so in the freezer right now, and another 250mls in my DIY cabinet. I also have a notebook with percentages written down: 10mg is what I'm at right now, and so it's broken down into how much PG/VG/Flavor/Nic to take the 36mg down to 10, which I did using a calculator.

I only mix single flavor batches though, and then mix them together into smaller bottles to make the desired flavor. That's how I started doing it, and it works fine for me.

 

[bogeyjim]

Wow, thanks for all the input everyone, definitely appreciated! I think we will stick to not cutting this stuff then and just using a syringe for each bottle we make. Might be a drag initially as were sticking to th 5mL size to start and get some decent flavors before we make larger 30mL quantities

A little off topic, but we purchased a gallon of each PG and VG.

Is it ok to leave those in the plastic containers?? Not sure where I'd find gallon glass jugs to store this in....

Thanks!

 

[thinkingaboutit]

I buy 36mg nic

Serious question here...why? At 36mg, is it more about custom flavors? You could save much more going higher nic, and you still need to calculate it, no?

 

[Fiamma]

I have some at 36mg too. It's far easier to use to make 3 or 4ml test batches with it than 100mg nic base. I vape at 4mg nic finished so the amounts of nic and flavorings for a 3 or 4ml test batch are tiny.

When I've got a recipe nailed I then make it in 120ml batches with the higher level nic.

PG and VG are fine in plastic.

 

[zoiDman]

I make "Pre-Mix" when I get Nicotine Base.

I've found that I basicaly add about 20% Combined Flavorings and Sweeteners to my DIY Mixes.

So if I was going to want 15mg to end up. I would Dilute my 60mg down to 18mg. That way when I add 20% Flavorings / Sweetener I end up at about 15mg.

BTW - Many people, myself included, can't tell the Diference between 15mg and 16mg e-Liquid. So I don't get to worked up if my DIY mxes arn't exactly 20% or my Final mg isn't Exactly 15mg.

 

[thinkingaboutit]

BTW - Many people, myself included, can't tell the Diference between 15mg and 16mg e-Liquid. So I don't get to worked up if my DIY mxes arn't exactly 20% or my Final mg isn't Exactly 15mg.

I suspect that is the case for most people. Glad to see someone else say something I was thinking

 

[zoiDman]

I suspect that is the case for most people. Glad to see someone else say something I was thinking

I guess some people Actualy can taste the difference (or think they can) because I posted something like this once and got Blasted because they told me the mg would be like 15.2mg doing it my way verses EXACTLY 15mg using a Room full of Syringes, Pipettes and an Various other pieces of Lab Glass.

I found Very Early in DIY that you can make it as Hard or as Easy as you like. It tastes about the same. And by making "Pre-Mix" it is so much Easier to whip up a batch of this or a mix of that.

You also only have to wear the glooves One Time because you are not working ith High mg Nicotine All the Time.

I would never Bag on Someone who wants to make their Mixes +/- .25 mg. I just can't taste any difference and Hate Washing a Bunch of Stuff if I Don't Need to.

 

[thinkingaboutit]

I don't know if I will really premix or not...but I would be hard pressed to tell you if I had 11 or 15 in my carto half the time

I'm new, and I keep screwing with stuff. Nothing I have left is over 18 so I won't make myself sick...not yet at least.

 

[zoiDman]

I don't know if I will really premix or not...but I would be hard pressed to tell you if I had 11 or 15 in my carto half the time

I'm new, and I keep screwing with stuff. Nothing I have left is over 18 so I won't make myself sick...not yet at least.

You want to know what the Real Secrete to DIY is?

And that is Until you get things down to the point where you can do DIY in your sleep, Do Small Test Batches. That goes for making "Pre-Mix".

Get the Hang of Measuring. ALWAYS work over a Stainless Steel Cookie Sheet or Oven Pan. Keep Detailed Records of EVERYTHING you do. Double Check ALL Percentages with a Pencil and Paper. Don't Change a Recipe Until it has sat for At Least 3 Days.

When you have all this Wired, then you might consider "Pre-Mixing your Entire Horde of Nicotine Base.

You do Great. Just take it Slow until you have it Down.

 

[thinkingaboutit]

Appreciate the tips-from everyone.

Man...if I can make a good bananna I will be happy. Then a few other simple mixes. Then maybe strawberry bananna when I mix flavors. Can you tell I love to vape bannanna?

 

[gunderpersonn]

Great advice ZoiDman! I'm new to DIY too and I've decided to take the "make it low (percentage of flavor) and take it slow" approach.
I also agree about the not being really fussy regarding nic levels. As I've been ordering pre-mixed e-juice I find I easily switch from 24 to 18 to 12 without noticing a big difference. I might inadvertently vape more on lower mixes but I can't tell when I do. My sister-in-law who was a chain smoker and is now a chain vaper at a steady 24 mg recently received a sample that she vaped all day long and raved about. I pointed out that it had 0 mg of nic. We both laughed and she determined that maybe she could actually lower her nicotine levels. So, the difference between .25% probably really isn't detectable.
I love this DIY stuff!
Dawn

 

[Xaiver]

Serious question here...why? At 36mg, is it more about custom flavors? You could save much more going higher nic, and you still need to calculate it, no?

A few reasons. 100mg is dangerous, and ECF won't endorse anyone that sells above 60mg IIRC. I'd much rather spend my money at someone that took the time to become known in the community, than at someone that I've never heard of, or no one else has, especially for this. I'll buy parts from other places, but I don't want to mess around with the Nic, I'll leave that up to the more adventurous types.

I've got a 6 month old and we live in a 2 bedroom apartment. My 'mixing lab' is the kitchen table (which is a card table, since we haven't found a real table that we want yet) and it's not the safest place to do this stuff. I'd rather not risk exposing him to any more than I have to. 100mg has warnings on it about accumulation in the air if the bottle is open too long... I don't want to have to evacuate the apartment if I'm going to mix.

In my case, DIYing was for the economy of it. I pretty much buy Nic during sales only, flavorings are cheap, and PG/VG are cheap. I've got a ton of empty bottles laying around. It's way cheaper to make 300mls myself than it is to buy 300mls, even if I buy low-nic concentrate and the most expensive flavors I can find.

I don't really calculate it anymore. I run flavorings at 15% and PG/VG at 75/25ish. One set of numbers makes all of my juices.

Not really striving to make super-complex flavors. I just wanted to be able to make myself something that works, and be able to do it without making an order every couple weeks. (Which I still do anyhow, just for different things)

 

[BigCypress]

Also, add the nic last. after you've mixed flavor and pg/vg