Dang! Snus is WAY better than cigs ever were!

[whimzkool]

Okay, curiosity got the best of me, so I ordered the free trial pack from getsnus. I had smoked for about 30 years. I think I had gotten to the point where I could almost give up the vaping. I definitely had gotten to the point where I no longer missed the MAOIs that cigs provide... Enter Snus.
I popped in my first General mini mint about twenty mins ago. Hello MAOIs! Long time no feel! Within five mins I was getting a good buzz. Now I am sooo relaxed! I can see where these DO replace smoking for many people. I am almost mad that I tried them. I am an addict of the first order, and I am liking this a little too much. Occasionally I will puff on passionflower (some of the same MAOIs) suspended in VG in my PV... especially when I have been chain vaping. Helps me put it down... the PV that is. But that is nothing like this!
You guys on the smokeless subforum are some of the same "bad influences" that sucked me into the analog scene some 30 years ago. At the age of 46, I thought I was beyond peer pressure.. apparently not!
So, when people make e-liquid from snus, do the MAOIs translate well in the liquid?... Never mind, I wish I hadn't asked that. The addict in me is already thinking about my next fix! So, is the smokeless forum like the back alley where the "bad kids" hang?

 

[slybootz]

Okay, curiosity got the best of me, so I ordered the free trial pack from getsnus. I had smoked for about 30 years. I think I had gotten to the point where I could almost give up the vaping. I definitely had gotten to the point where I no longer missed the MAOIs that cigs provide... Enter Snus.
I popped in my first General mini mint about twenty mins ago. Hello MAOIs! Long time no feel! Within five mins I was getting a good buzz. Now I am sooo relaxed! I can see where these DO replace smoking for many people. I am almost mad that I tried them. I am an addict of the first order, and I am liking this a little too much. Occasionally I will puff on passionflower (some of the same MAOIs) suspended in VG in my PV... especially when I have been chain vaping. Helps me put it down... the PV that is. But that is nothing like this!
You guys on the smokeless subforum are some of the same "bad influences" that sucked me into the analog scene some 30 years ago. At the age of 46, I thought I was beyond peer pressure.. apparently not!
So, when people make e-liquid from snus, do the MAOIs translate well in the liquid?... Never mind, I wish I hadn't asked that. The addict in me is already thinking about my next fix! So, is the smokeless forum like the back alley where the "bad kids" hang?

Glad the snus is working well for you! This 'side of the tracks' is where the cool kids hang, for sure!

 

[Dredbull]

HA its what I feel about the geezers who sucked me into snuffing. ...

 

[Skrymr]

HA its what I feel about the geezers who sucked me into snuffing. ...

I'd feel that way too if I didn't enjoy it so much.

 

[Dredbull]

GAH I didnt say I enjoyed it... EXCEPT the bonbon

 

[Skrymr]

I didn't care for bonbon too much. Now Honey Bee on the other hand.....

 

[whimzkool]

I will not start snuffing, I will not start snuffing, I will not start snuffing...
lol, wait, I actually used snuff before I ever took a drag on a cig. Never got the hang of snorting anything. Can't even use nose spray, and a neti pot is out of the question.

 

[Skrymr]

I will not start snuffing, I will not start snuffing, I will not start snuffing...
lol, wait, I actually used snuff before I ever took a drag on a cig. Never got the hang of snorting anything. Can't even use nose spray, and a neti pot is out of the question.

Well, there's you're problem. With snuff, you sniff gently and enjoy. The neti pot really is quite an experience, but it works wonders.

 

[whimzkool]

yeah, I was just reading through the posts here and found where sly said:

a
pinch: simply use your thumb and index finger and take a pinch of snuff out of your tin. Gently press/rub it in your fingers(the heat will bring the aroma to life), and then gently sniff it into your nose. DO NOT SNORT IT, you do not want snuff to go all the way back to your sinuses, but rather it should stay at the front of your nose.

then realized I had actually been snorting it! Doh! Hey, whats a 14 yr old girl gonna know about snuff?

 

[Stubby]

You guys on the smokeless subforum are some of the same "bad influences" that sucked me into the analog scene some 30 years ago. At the age of 46, I thought I was beyond peer pressure.. apparently not!
So, when people make e-liquid from snus, do the MAOIs translate well in the liquid?... Never mind, I wish I hadn't asked that. The addict in me is already thinking about my next fix! So, is the smokeless forum like the back alley where the "bad kids" hang?

You'll get little sympathy here for your fate. A lot of hopeless nicotine addicts on this side of the tracks who found a bit of nicotine bliss without the vast majority of harm associated with... that other way of getting nicotine/MAOI's/WTA. Kind of makes the PV look like a toy now doesn't it. If the minis are doing it wait till you try a standard snus. You might just decide the whole addiction thing isn't so bad after all.

How's that for a bad influence. LOL.

Edit: It's not likely you'll get a lot of MOAI's via vaping snus, though hard to tell as no real test have been done. The general consensus around here is "why mess with it when it's a lot less hassle to just use as intended".

 

[MoeJoe39]

Much like you, I arrived in this forum by accident a couple months ago looking for something to ease my chain vaping. I'm now vaping 90% less and enjoying snus a few times a day. (I'm a snuffling one in a while too)

Welcome to this side of the tracks.....were all addicts here.

MoeJoe39

 

[hittman]

whimzkool, I had a somewhat similar experience when I tried snus the first time a couple months ago. I however did not have the maoi thing beat. I felt like I was slowly sinking into depression even though I was chain vaping 24-36mg liquids. Within about 15 minutes of trying my first snus I felt like I suddenly found my old self again.

 

[TropicalBob]

First off, don't try making e-liquid by soaking snus in VG or PG. One of the world's premiere e-cig researchers has said that very little nicotine and other alkaloids make the transition to the liquid in this scenario. Instead, use a soaked mini snus portion in place of a cart core.

Done that way, you have recreated a nicotine delivery system very similar to that marketed by Big Tobacco as the Premier, Accord, Heatbar, Eclipse. All of those "smokeless" cigarettes used tobacco wet with PG and then heated by a lit charcoal lump in the tip of the cigarette. The heat vaporized the moisture in the tobacco and a smoker inhaled that moisture.

E-smoking a soaked snus is much the same. It will deliver both nicotine and MAOIs. I have been told directly by a corporate president that lab testing of soaked snus showed about the same nicotine delivery as a cart. Tests were not done for MAOIs (since most of the world seems convinced that smokers need only nicotine).

You'll have to find a snus sufficiently small to fit a cart of your choice. Not always easy, but I use 801 penstyle carts 90% of time anyhow. Those will accept a General Mini Mint or even a Camel snus. If you find the nicotine to be insufficient, you can always soak the snus portion in e-liqiuid of known nic strength.

As mentioned, this is really not preferable to using snus as intended. I just like seeing vapor and holding an e-cig, so this is a fallback position for me in case the nannies decide I need protection from high-nic carts and liquids.

 

[yanks21]

Or just vape with a snus in your mouth

 

[TropicalBob]

Yes indeed. I do that almost all day. Vaping a snus is a last-ditch alternative. Unlike some, I need to see the exhaling and handle the e-cig. But from a nicotine standpoint, I need my snus!

BUT .. a biggie for some .. vaping a snus portion is cheaper than vaping a pre-filled cartridge. Using a VG-soaked snus costs about 20 cents a day. Carts can be five times that for the same length of use.

I refill and drip, so as things stand, I'm cool with my present practice. Just keep an eye cocked on the FDA, will ya?

 

[TWISTED VICTOR]

You guys on the smokeless subforum are some of the same "bad influences" that sucked me into the analog scene some 30 years ago. At the age of 46, I thought I was beyond peer pressure.. apparently not!
So, when people make e-liquid from snus, do the MAOIs translate well in the liquid?... Never mind, I wish I hadn't asked that. The addict in me is already thinking about my next fix! So, is the smokeless forum like the back alley where the "bad kids" hang?

Hey stranger ......as one 46 year old addict to another, you'll know you're beyond peer pressure when you go to public functions with a snus tucked firmly under da lip and volunteer to be a "greeter" .
My stint with passion flower was short-lived....I should have a heart tattoo on my forehead that says "MAOI". Sure, they can't call this stuff healthy 'cause it's tobacco, but they still haven't found anything wrong with it, either .
Oh, and you need a dash in your screen name....whimz-kool.

 

[AllCoExPat]

Hey stranger you'll know you're beyond peer pressure when you go to public functions with a snus tucked firmly under da lip and volunteer to be a "greeter" .

I sat through a 2-hour meeting with my boss and uber-boss and their counterparts from another division of our organization with a snus of Ettan tucked there this morning... and no one even flinched during my part of the presentation. Try doing that with a PV.

 

[GregH]

OK. I have a question for TropicalBob and a general question. My experience with snus has been limited to trying Camel Snus only twice. I kind of liked it but didn't continue with it. I was just curious. In other words, I'm am completely ignorant about it.

So my question for TB: is there any brand of snus that will fit in a 510 cart so I could try your method?

And my general question: does snus contribute to dental problems, such as cavities or receding gum lines?

Thanks.

 

[TropicalBob]

GregH: No on 510 cart. I have a bunch of them. I can tell you that a tiny portion snus is in the works. Not on the market yet. Snus works in 801, e-cigar and e-pipe carts.

Snus is not generally considered an oral health antagonist, but you can find plenty of anecdotal evidence that it causes receding gums. I've not seen a valid study stating that, but personal experiences can be found on snus forums.

In my own case, I have receding gums, but a dentist will say that is the continuing result of 50 years of smoking cigarettes, not my four-year snus usage. At this point, I don't care. I need the stability that snus provides, without the known hazards of smoking cigarettes.

 

[GregH]

Thanks. If curiosity gets the better of me before any tiny portions are available, I can always get an 801 adapter for my Protege.

At this point, I don't care. I need the stability that snus provides, without the known hazards of smoking cigarettes.

I totally understand that! Even if snus is found to cause receding gums, it still doesn't compare to all the harm cigarettes cause. I was just curious.