Anyone got any suggestions for a dark, bitter, chocolate flavouring? I've tried a couple (TFA Double chocolate clear and CAP Chocolate Fudge Brownie v2) but both are to me anyway, more like milk than plain chocolate.
I have never had any luck with any chocolates. They can seem vaguely reminiscing of chocolate to me but that’s about it. YMMV of course. If the flavor didn’t work for at least some people it wouldn’t exist.Anyone got any suggestions for a dark, bitter, chocolate flavouring? I've tried a couple (TFA Double chocolate clear and CAP Chocolate Fudge Brownie v2) but both are to me anyway, more like milk than plain chocolate.
VT Dark Chocolate is a good dark chocolate, that is fairly new on the scene, but getting lots of love.
FA Cocoa mimics cocoa powder. Though not ideal as a stand-alone/single flavor. It is good as an additive to "darken" other chocolate concentrates.
TFA Bittersweet Chocolate is a good bitter chocolate, though a bit thin. Can be used w/VT Dark Chocolate to add depth.
FA Chocolate is a good middle-note chocolate, though some perceive a liquor note in it, that can interfere with candy profiles. Addition of FA Cocoa turns this into a darker chocolate. Additions of milk/dairy moves it toward a milk chocolate flavor.
Acetyl Pyrazine (1-2% max) is useful for filling/rounding out chocolate profiles. It also removes the liquor note of FA Chocolate.
I have never had any luck with any chocolates. They can seem vaguely reminiscing of chocolate to me but that’s about it. YMMV of course. If the flavor didn’t work for at least some people it wouldn’t exist.
Historically chocolate was one of those very hard flavors to replicate which is why the price of coco beans has remained high compared to other substances who’s flavors have been successfully copied.
Part of the problem I understand is the coco butter. Chocolate is coco powder and coco butter (and frequently milk) mixed together in a fairly temperature sensitive process. The flavor of the coco butter has proved nearly impossible to replicate. I had a coco puffs flavor that did remind me of coco puffs. It’s probably because coco puffs don’t use real chocolate either though.Wow, thanks @IDJoel. I wasn't expecting to have much choice there, but that sounds really positive. My AP is on standby - I'd drink the stuff out the bottle if I could .
I never thought of it that way @bombastinator, just goes to show how much artificial flavours are used. I know I'm taking a bit of a risk here, but hey ho, nothing ventured, nothing gained. The CAP offering is actually not too bad IMO, I can see it working in certain scenarios - it just hasn't got the dark depths plain chocolate has. The TFA sample I have is a complete mystery to me. How it passes for chocolate I've yet to work out. It smells OK in the bottle, but once you throw it on a hot coil, it just tastes artificial .
Anyone got any suggestions for a dark, bitter, chocolate flavouring?
VT Dark Chocolate is a good dark chocolate, that is fairly new on the scene, but getting lots of love.
FA Cocoa mimics cocoa powder. Though not ideal as a stand-alone/single flavor. It is good as an additive to "darken" other chocolate concentrates.
TFA Bittersweet Chocolate is a good bitter chocolate, though a bit thin. Can be used w/ VT Dark Chocolate to add depth.
FA Chocolate is a good middle-note chocolate, though some perceive a liquor note in it, that can interfere with candy profiles. Addition of FA Cocoa turns this into a darker chocolate. Additions of milk/dairy moves it toward a milk chocolate flavor.
Acetyl Pyrazine (1-2% max) is useful for filling/rounding out chocolate profiles. It also removes the liquor note of FA Chocolate.
I'll second ID Joel's take: "bit thin" and add not a single flavor/standalone.TFA Bittersweet Chocolate is a good bitter chocolate, though a bit thin. Can be used w/VT Dark Chocolate to add depth.
I agree with @bombastinator, that chocolate vapes are a difficult flavor to replicate, and not for everyone.The TFA sample I have is a complete mystery to me. How it passes for chocolate I've yet to work out. It smells OK in the bottle, but once you throw it on a hot coil, it just tastes artificial .
I would have NEVER thought to use AP to help out chocolate... Mind blown.