Dark juice: what works for you?

[Lin Swimmer]

I imagine this has probably been well covered. I tried to sift through the search results, but I couldn't really find the proper terms to narrow it down effectively.

I recently tried my first dark juice; coffee & cream from bluemist. Unfortunately I loved it - more than anything else in the sample pack.

I say unfortunately because just over 1 ml of the stuff completely strangled a fluxomizer. I dry burned it tonight after a vodka soak, and it doesn't look too pretty. Where the wick is inside the cup but not quite under the coil is still dark, and the coil area… I don't know. I'm not sure it's worth putting any juice back into it, and I don't know about continuing to dry burn. It wasn't producing smoke anymore, but it definitely wasn't looking like a new coil, either.

I'll try to keep this short: I want to vape this stuff. I've got another dark juice since then that I haven't even tried because I figure it just isn't worth it until I figure something out.

My atomizer experience is threadbare. I haven't dripped, haven't used a carto. This was my first dry burn, and it wasn't particularly encouraging.

I'm not really looking to hear to avoid dark juices; I'd like to know if other people treat them differently than their lighter flavors, and how they approach them.

I really have no idea. Do you guys just resign yourself to ten minutes on a carto before chucking it in the trash? Do people really just avoid dark juices? What am I missing?

 

[Zeth]

I'm new too, and still haven't found a solid workaround for the dark juices either. After trying quite a few juices I tend to gravitate towards the darker liquid (cafe caramel from bluemist is great too). With some coffee flavors I've refilled a carto about 3 times before I felt like I might be smoking the carto filler, and the inside looks like a burnt cigarette.

 

[DaveP]

Order a 306 1.8 ohm atty with a drip tip. You just install it and drip through the wide mouth whistle tip. 3 to 4 drops on a clean atty with 2 drops at a time after that will get you good vapor from dark juices. When the flavor and vapor begin to drop off, add two drops.

Here's a good one, complete with drip tips in your choice of colors.
http://www.madvapes.com/306-18-ohm-Atomizer-with-Colored-Drip-Tip_p_3240.html

 

[Lin Swimmer]

I was looking at these; they definitely look like a good choice for dripping, which is what I was thinking I was going to hear. May I ask why you like them more than bridgeless 510s?

How often do you clean yours? Boiling or alcohol? Rare dry burn? I suppose you don't bother to rip that exposed bridge out.

Thanks, Dave!

 

[John Phoenix]

My all time favorite juice so far is Wyatt Earp from FreedomsmokeUSA. It's very dark, It's yummy kinda sweet and spicy type of tobacco flavor - of course it doesn't taste anything like tobacco. Not Oriental sweet and spicy. I wish I knew what to compare it to but I have never tasted anything like it in a food product.

Anyway I find it can gunk up the coil faster than other lighter juices but not as bad as other dark juices I have tried. I might give my CE2's a dry burn and good cleaning once a week. I can make them last at least one month each with care. I use it in fluxomizers too.

I think coffee is the worse being super dark. I have a coffee flavor from void mist that is super dark and it gunks fast. I have to dilute it some with extra sweetener and sweet cream, two clear juices.

 

[Lin Swimmer]

I wish I could see your post dry-burned fluxomizers to have a better idea of what they should look like. I don't mind chucking them if they can work through about 10mls; that seems like a fair enough life span at ~$2.50. But just over a ml? I'm gonna try the 306, rip the bridge out, and see what happens.

I think I might just try giving them a vodka soak (the 306s) when the coil starts to look nasty (probably 1, 2 sessions, I'm guessing), and try not to let the gunk ball completely encase the coil as happened on my poor fluxo. I think I'll probably keep dry burning as a last resort if the vodka (or boiling) doesn't cut it.

The only other juice I've got going right now that seems to be crudding up the coil (and the inside of the cup) is Robacco menthol, which actually looks pretty light. Not sure what's up with that.

I might have to try that Wyatt Earp. Tobacco, so far, has been really weird. Honeysuckle tobacco I mostly get the honeysuckle, RY4 I get nutty caramel... the straight Robacco is... really strange. My partner, when I asked her what flavors she wanted, kept saying "like a cigarette." I have no idea what she's going to think of straight Robacco; I'm charging the batteries for her first PV right now.

 

[John Phoenix]

Clear juices can gunk up the atty pretty bad. The type of sugars used in the flavorings causes this as well as dark inks in the flavorings for dark juices.

After you clean and dry burn the fluxomizer or other type atty, they will still look pretty bad.. the coil will look dark. You will never be able to get them looking like new. The best you can do is soak them in something caustic but safe like coke a cola over night, rinse well and let dry or pat dry with a paper towel, then dry burn. I have even had good success with denture cleaner, the effervescent kind. Dry burning well takes time and practice to get it as good as possible and still not fry your coil. You want to get it where you don't see a lot of stuff left to burn off and the coil glows bright again. Some people rinse and dry again after a dry burn. This will help clean the ashes away.

 

[Jim Bob]

If you have a VV I wonder if higher voltage/watts would help with this?

 

[John Phoenix]

If you have a VV I wonder if higher voltage/watts would help with this?

As far as dry burning goes it can. I like to do a small dry burn at a low voltage like 3.7, then go to 4.5 then 5.0. ( I use a 3.0 ohm atty rated for use at 5 volts) Some people suggest to use a higher voltage than the atty is rated for but this stresses the atty too much I find trying to force burn off a lot of stuck on gunk at once and increases the chances of frying the coil.

If one does not have a VV but a 3.7 v mod and a 5 v mod I would use high voltage atty's (3.0 ohm) on the 3.7 first then go to 5v. If they have a low voltage atty like a 2.0 ohm I would use a 3.7 v mostly and only use the 5 v for Very teeny tiny light ups if at all if needed. The jump from 3.7 to 5 v is really large and one has to be extra careful with the 2.0 ohm atty designed for lower voltage.

 

[Jim Bob]

Thanks I suspected as much.