Dark sweet juice, need advice

[my4jewels]

I've been dabbling in diy lately, Some may recognize me from the diy board. Let me say up front that I like very sweet juice.

I have concocted the best juice I ever vaped. It's a mix of Capella Cinnamon coffe cake, caramel, maple, Lorann butter rum and a bit of EzSweetz(sucralose). It is darkish and sweet.

What would be the best thing to use to vape it. I can't get through 1 carto without it tasting burnt, not the carto, the juice. I am guessing that something is carmelizeing on the atty and giving me that off burnt taste?

I have am eGo 900mah. I have tried a new Boge 2.0 carto, a Boge 3.0 carto, and an echo e. It always starts out AMAZING and soon gets the burnt taste. I have tried dripping, so far, so good, but I've only done it a little bit because I don't want my atty to get gunked up. I only have 3 atties for tasting because I am a carto girl. I haven't tried the atty/cart combo yet. I still have most of my juice. I used the reverse taryn spin to retreive as much as I could from the cartos.

This got dark from the maple flavor. When you have a darker, very sweet juice, what is the best way to vape it? Will it mess up me atties if I drip it?

In the future I think I'll try stevia liquid(I know, very strong) or ethyl maltol, just in case I used too much Ez-Sweetz. Does sucralose carmelize? I am also trying to isolate the problem with this juice.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

What's the PG/VG mix of your juice? I usually don't have any trouble with dark juice, but I use a 60PG/40VG mix and IKV LR cartos. Dripping works very well for dark juice and you shouldn't need to worry about the atty getting gunked up as long as you blow them out at least once a day.

 

[zoiDman]

It could be a wicking issue. What is your VG to PG ratio?

 

[Nomoreash]

Darker and sweet in general = atties/cartos aren't going to last as long but if you like them then it's worth it although you might want to experiment with lighter colored flavoring to get close to the same vape, usually can be done with some searching. Also go easy on the EZ SWeet, that stuff is powerful and cruds a coil up fast. I use 1, 2 drops at the most per 10ml and that's plenty for me, sometimes to much.

Just dedicate a carto/atty to that flavor because it likely never will come out completely and clean them often. Probably dripping is your best bet with those as there is no filler to worry about, just the wick and coil gunking up, same with the CE2 and Clearos which most times require tweaking to get them performing optimally but once you do they are the easiest carto to clean.

 

[pianoguy]

You might consider a Bulli-Smoker A2 rebuildable atty. If your juice burns up cartos or atty's rapidly, the A2 would be the most economical choice over the long haul. And you can tailor the ohms to your liking just by making fewer or more windings. The stainless version would likely be more durable over time, worth a few extra bucks.

Bulli-Smoker A1 Atomizer - Fa.Bismillah

Lots of great info in this thread in the reviews section:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...a2-diy-atomiser-similar-nhaler-ato-miser.html

 

[my4jewels]

Thanks, WoH, I guess I'll drip it then. It approx. a 60pg/40vg mix.

What's the PG/VG mix of your juice? I usually don't have any trouble with dark juice, but I use a 60PG/40VG mix and IKV LR cartos. Dripping works very well for dark juice and you shouldn't need to worry about the atty getting gunked up as long as you blow them out at least once a day.

 

[my4jewels]

It's a 60pg/40vg mix. I know it's wicking well, because the 1st 20-30 drags are phenomenally good.

It could be a wicking issue. What is your VG to PG ratio?

 

[my4jewels]

Thanks, it's probably the Ez-sweetz. I'm gonna try some alternative sweetners.

Darker and sweet in general = atties/cartos aren't going to last as long but if you like them then it's worth it although you might want to experiment with lighter colored flavoring to get close to the same vape, usually can be done with some searching. Also go easy on the EZ SWeet, that stuff is powerful and cruds a coil up fast. I use 1, 2 drops at the most per 10ml and that's plenty for me, sometimes to much.

Just dedicate a carto/atty to that flavor because it likely never will come out completely and clean them often. Probably dripping is your best bet with those as there is no filler to worry about, just the wick and coil gunking up, same with the CE2 and Clearos which most times require tweaking to get them performing optimally but once you do they are the easiest carto to clean.

 

[my4jewels]

This looks very interesting. I'm gonna look into it. I surprised I've never seen it mentioned before.

You might consider a Bulli-Smoker A2 rebuildable atty. If your juice burns up cartos or atty's rapidly, the A2 would be the most economical choice over the long haul. And you can tailor the ohms to your liking just by making fewer or more windings. The stainless version would likely be more durable over time, worth a few extra bucks.

Bulli-Smoker A1 Atomizer - Fa.Bismillah

Lots of great info in this thread in the reviews section:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...a2-diy-atomiser-similar-nhaler-ato-miser.html

 

[pianoguy]

I see that under the A1-A2 Accessories, they have a cone for the eGo, too ;-)

 

[JD1]

I recommend giving the ce2s a try. It does take some learning on how to deal with them, but they're very durable and easy to clean. I'm dripping with a 2.4 ohm on my e-power and I can't tell any difference from using an atty. Watch some of the youtube videos to get a handle on them.

 

[my4jewels]

I actually ordered ce2 r5's a few days ago after watching some videos on them. I just want to give everything a try before I settle in.

 

[Stosh]

I've been using the stevia as my sweetener and have not experienced excessive gunk or wicking problems. I don't use high concentrations as a few drops seem to do the trick.

 

[my4jewels]

I have been looking into some old threads on stevia and other sweeteners. I saw this one: Now Foods, Stevia Glycerite, 8 fl oz (237 ml) - iHerb.com It says no bitter aftertaste. Is this what I should get?

How about the flavored stevia liquids, http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Stevia-Extract-Liquid-Dark-Chocolate-2-fl-oz-60-ml/16571?at=0 and http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Stevia-Extract-Liquid-French-Vanilla-2-fl-oz-60-ml/16558?at=0. They also carry Sweetleaf brand, but it doesn't say no bitter aftertaste.

I hear it is veeery strong. How do I mix a small batch, say 3ml and use liquid stevia as a sweetener without over powering?

 

[Stosh]

I have been using The Vitamin Shoppe brand Stevia, and one or two very small drops in a 3 ml should be fine. It's not as overpowering strong as something like menthol drops.

 

[my4jewels]

Does it ever get bitter if you use too much? How do you define a "small drop", like from a little pipette?

 

[Stosh]

I haven't ever noticed any bitterness, but on the other hand I like bitter flavors.
A small pipette or a hollow swizzle stick will work for a 'little at a time testing'