Dazed and Confused

[laylaa]

Hi:

I have recently purchased Smoke Stik. Their product is fine however the battery life is too short. Have searched the internet and find everything so confusing. Should I be looking for a big battery mod or some kind of tank system? I'm not even sure if I'm asking the question correctly. I like using the carto's - they are easy to fill.

Would someone please suggest what I should be looking for - thanks in advance.

Laylaa

 

[banjo]

Check out the videos by MistressNomad - they are excellent & will get you started without all the hassles:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-videos-newbies-particular-broke-newbies.html

 

[wv2win]

Definitely get a better battery PV (personal vaporizer). Better battery devices allows you to vape longer on a charge (anywhere from 5 hours to 8 hours) and provides better throat hit (warmth) to better simulate an analog (cig). If you really think you like vaping, then the best option is either a good 5 volt PV such as the GLV2 from: Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor or a good variable volt PV such as the ProVari or the Darwin from nhaler.com. These type of PV's by far give the best performance.

But most newbies don't want to make that "jump" to better devices right away. So I would suggest you look at an eGo or Riva 510 PV or a VGO 801. These are only 3.7 volt devices but the batteries do last longer and are a good begginer PV and much better than SmokeStix. Here are a couple of good sites that sell these PV's:

Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - Joye eGo

Electronic Cigarette Kits, Eliquid by Awesome Vapor


Rule of Thumb: the more it looks like the real thing, the worse the performance

 

[CES]

The SS pitbull has an longer battery life as compared to other RN4081s. There are also cartos available for any PV with 510 or 808 threads. I prefer cartos too- and use the SS pitbulls ( ~3 hours use, RN4081 threads) , RIVAs (~ 12 hours use, 510 threads), and kr808d1s (~ 4 hours use, 808 threads). They're all good for different times and places.

 

[laylaa]

Thanks CES but what are threads?

 

[CES]

Oh, sorry. The threads are the fittings where the carto screws onto the battery.Cartos and batteries with the same thread type are compatible. Those with differerent threads can't be used together without an adapter.
Think about nuts and bolts- for a nut or screw to for a given bolt it has to have the right size spiral pattern/thread.

These are adapters (and information overload) , but the picture gives you an idea of the diversity of threading. That's why the model number of the PV you use is important. SmokeStik are RN4801 batteries. Don't worry about all the types, this was just the best image i could find that shows you threads.

 

[laylaa]

CES:

Threads-OK!! I'm getting a little better at understanding the products - thanks for your help.

Do you like the manual batteries? Not sure if I would like the button thing.......

I just viisited the SS site and found their new pitbull - it's just a little longer than the original one-think I might go with that one.

You're great -- thanks again.

 

[CES]

You're welcome- and welcome to ECF.

I generally prefer the manuals, but like autos at times. Especially when I'm doing housework (ick) or having a drink with friends (YAY).

One more post and time for the forum to update (up to an hour) and you can go over to the SS subforum and ask about the pitbull there... (i've read a rumor that there may be a contest this weekend)

 

[laylaa]

CES:

Hope I get to talk to you again....Thanks

 

[wv2win]

CES:

Threads-OK!! I'm getting a little better at understanding the products - thanks for your help.

Do you like the manual batteries? Not sure if I would like the button thing.......

I just viisited the SS site and found their new pitbull - it's just a little longer than the original one-think I might go with that one.

You're great -- thanks again.

Definitely get manual batteries!!!!!!!! The auto batteries have significant issues, one being that liquid can seep into your battery and kill it with the autos. Plus you have to do the "double" inhale vape method just to get the battery to heat the atomizer. The manuals gives the user complete control, better warmth and just hold up much better.

BTW, what part of Atlanta are you from? I'm also in the Atlanta area and there is a separate sub-forum for Atlanta ECF Vapers called "Peach State Vapers". We just had a Vape Fest in Vinnings in late January.

 

[laylaa]

Hi VW:

What is a Vape Fest? Where do I find Peach State Vapers? I'm in the Emory University area.........

I guess I'm a little nervous about the manual batteries - just don't understand enough about them yet.

Thanks vw.....

 

[wv2win]

Hi VW:

What is a Vape Fest? Where do I find Peach State Vapers? I'm in the Emory University area.........

I guess I'm a little nervous about the manual batteries - just don't understand enough about them yet.

Thanks vw.....

A Vape Fest is where mostly locals to a specific area get together along with several suppliers, usually, and simply get to know each other and compare PV's and liquid, talk, drink, eat and socialize. We had a raffle at the last one with about 4 PV's and different eliquids being given away with the money going to CAASA. We were very forunate that one of the owners of Evolv who has come out with the top of the line "Darwin" PV, attended all the way from Ohio and provided two Darwins for the raffle. The only bad thing was I DIDN'T WIN!!!

On the auto vs manual batteries, about 98% of ECFers use manual batteries. You will be very frustrated (as we all were) over time with the auto batteries. The auto's break easy, can come on accidently by loud noise or wind and do not heat the liquid very well or consistently. With the manuals, YOU control how much to heat the atomizer. It is very simiple, you just press the button and inhale, keeping the button pressed throughout the inhale into the mouth and then into the lungs. You can even press the button a second before you inhale to warm the vapor a little more. Better warmth, better vapor, better durability and better vaping experience.

Here is the link to the Peach State sub-forum. We are talking about having another Vape Fest possibly in April and possibly in Lawrenceville. Nothing definite yet.

Peach State Vapers

Also, the link I gave you earlier in this thread for Awsome Vaper - Arno, the owner is in Cumming, GA and he is a real nice guy and stands behind his products. If you order anything from him, tell him wv2win sent you his way.

 

[laylaa]

VW:

Thanks for taking the time and sending me so much great information. The Vape Fest sounds fun.

Will research more on the manual battery. I guess I just don't understand enough about the product yet - the atty/cartridge vs the cartomizer. It seems alot of work with the atty. When I use the carto's they are easy to fill and there is no maintenance.

Again, thanks so much.......

 

[Silent Soldier]

VW:

Thanks for taking the time and sending me so much great information. The Vape Fest sounds fun.

Will research more on the manual battery. I guess I just don't understand enough about the product yet - the atty/cartridge vs the cartomizer. It seems alot of work with the atty. When I use the carto's they are easy to fill and there is no maintenance.

Again, thanks so much.......

The carto's are easier to use but a bit more of a pain to refill and can only be refilled a few times (they are intended to be disposable). If your only using them once and throwing out it can get a bit expensive. Atomizer/cartridge combo isn't as easy in that regard (still pretty darn easy) but a properly maintained atty can last awhile, same for the cartridges. Buying juice (or making your own) and refilling cart's/carto's is a bit more work but much cheaper. And manual batteries aren't that much of an adjustment, most say it only takes an hour or so of use to get accustomed to using them. I went with manuals from the start and have had no issues.

I'm using the cartridge/atty combo and making my own juice, I expect to pay around $30-35 for juice supplies per month as apposed to the $180 I was spending on analogs. But to each his/her own. What works well for one might not work well for others. It all depends on what you want/need out of it and how much time/money your willing to spend on it.

 

[laylaa]

Hi Soldier:

Thanks for the advise.......

Will continue to research and see what happens.

 

[CES]

You'll be surprised how much you'll learn in a very short time Laylaa, Just keep reading and asking questions, and have fun with it
BTW- here's a link to the contest i mentioned earlier http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/smokestik/167189-smokestik-contest-show-your-compassion-animals-win-electronic-cigarette-more.html

Solider- i can't help noticing your signature....you might be interested in the zombie vapers subfoum- a few of us are preparing for the zombpocalypse