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Ugh I can't write it again, go look on Lounge lizards, they all think it's super funny and it is. OH IT IS, if you weren't the one living it and etc.
I think I "walked off the job" although to be fair, there's only SO MUCH TIME you have to deal with a hair test after being LIED TO about it twice.
But yes, mostly I walked off my first job.... Ever.
Do not think I shall be returning but I shall leave that up to my sis the lawyer to instruct me because I WILL DO nothing without legal counsel, now.
But up until the tragic end, yeah, it's like, funny.
Anna
I think I "walked off the job" although to be fair, there's only SO MUCH TIME you have to deal with a hair test after being LIED TO about it twice.
But yes, mostly I walked off my first job.... Ever.
Do not think I shall be returning but I shall leave that up to my sis the lawyer to instruct me because I WILL DO nothing without legal counsel, now.
But up until the tragic end, yeah, it's like, funny.
Anna
Okay.
Oh alas, it went about as far from "fine" as you can get without someone winding up dead. So I showed up at 7 a.m.. as no one really told me what to do so I was like "I go with my schedule I was told and whatnot." I wandered aimlessly among the mental health workers for a time, before being collected by the remainder of the group, and "green tagged" and also firmly instructed by a sheriff that none of us had been background cleared (it was at this point I got pissy, the woman with no start time just CALLED me and told me it was all fine, and I turned down MOST of my other job potentials before that and I guess Everyone Else knew they are to show up at some 9 a.m. time, but I was led there and we walked and stood around on concrete (don't mind walking it, but listening to a really garrulous sheriff go on and on about really obvious things about prisoners (to me) like don't show them pictures of your home and favorite child, as they will Use it Against you, or Gum (not so much the gum but it could lead to Blackmailing I guess and everyone asked me questions like "Have you onboarded," and it was QUITE clear that I was NOT alone in not knowing what the heck was going on, etc. I guess they're really understaffed.
Snus worked fine and although it may have been nice to a) pee or b) drink something in 4 hour stretches (although they did seem like, they cancelled each other out) well, by the time we were all done with the "tour" well, man, like they all wanted to be on to "safety in prisons" I guess there was going to be like all gruesome pics of like homemade shivs or whatnot. Jail was alternately too hot, too cold, too smelly, and HUGE man. In any case I was like, after the DENIED a diabetic orienteer her lunch and made her eat out of the vending machine, even though they talked about how they denied fat jailees the right to use the commissary for their own safety, at which point I was like, "Man, dude, honestly, prison orientation team I HATE YOU WITH A FIREY hate.) LOL, no wonder jail sucks it's like your hypocrite parents all over again.
So in a fit of defiance, I was like, "They can blow me, I'm going to get my bag, dude, as diabetes lady freaking.... Ate a snickers or whatever," and I went and got my bag, still there and still not full of contraband but I DID go and get my phone and there on it was a person who was all like, "I am from the Sheriff's department and we need to go over your hair test. I called her back and she had all these lists of requirements and I was like, "Clinical lady I LIKED has screwed me out of all the possible jobs I MIGHT be doing except ONE right now, and I am most definitely not cleared. Right now I have the husband photographing some med bottles ALL of which I ALREADY provided, but no, they want them from ME.
I will not be returning until a) I talk to my sister about lawyering up and b) I talk to my sister about lawyering up and c) ad infinitum but I need that hair check cleared and holy goodness just as well I HATED it for the most part (I mean, I'm sure if I had a job I could just do competently well, I would have hated it LESS, how long that may have taken I am unsure) but I was like, "Not a SINGLE moment more," and even if I loved it, I don't quite see HOW I could handle that kind of HR breach of trust, not once but TWO times. I mean...…????
I don't even have the energy to LOOK for one ATM after all the old freaking ones I had either said no to or just curtailed the process. Maybe far drive pedes will could be better, but I think I am going to have to TAKE a moment, and perhaps a vacation from job searching for a bit because this has made me lose trust in many, many things, but I already bought the kid stuff and his birthday present.
I just. don't know how much more CLEAR even I could have been about my hairtest and whatnot, so clinical lady either thought she Knew Better (YOU NEVER Assume you know BETTER than the Arrogantly Crested Pima Sheriff's department you just DON"T or was blatantly lying.
Either way, I don't know how you come back from that sort of thing, although I did just get another interview on Friday and still holding out for the pedes thing.
Although yeah, snus must be working and also, I did not smoke OR cry, but mainly because I want to HURT that company, financially if nothing else. LOL..
Anna
Questions about the leaving/lawyering thing ensued:
Well I did walk off the job, which, like I had a legitimate reason for doing so, you only get so much time to "prove your case" against a hair test. BUT ALSO, I could legitimately say that I was wandering down on the mental health unit with a Pen and such, and had not been "cleared to do so" and so I couldn't be "responsible for my own safety." And whatnot.
Neither could the sheriff though, I mean he had like, this BIG UPFRONT show about how "prisoners know they can't be disgusting to staff" and immediately got up in some behind glass prisoners to "show his tough," but after that, (he did say stuff like, "You should alert the prison guards when you feel unsafe," but then he got all garrallous MODE and paid no attention., once we entered the pods to the upper floors where many prisoners were making like '.........ion or I got great penis and rhythm going on," as he talked.
I finally interrupted to say, "Ah, you got some kiddos up there sort of sperminating at the staff, by the way. While it does not make me uncomfortable PER SE, it does make me uncomfortable that *I* have to be the one pointing it out to YOU, as one of the head staff, although to be fair, I do understand that well, you are doing the talking, and I am doing the "observing."
So yeah, let's face it I'm not cut out for prison work, although like, it's quite clear that a dangerous, .........ory prisoner could have just WRASTLED the pen from me, with no intervention from the prison staff, although I probably could have ALSO talked him into NOT doing that.
Oh, they also had therapy dogs for like "When someone kills themselves it DOES happen more than you'd think, you'll see it sooner than you'd imagine." He said, smugly.
LOL, I was mentally thinking "I'm surprised that it hasn't happened ALREADY but I think I can make a legit argument that I HAD TO GO take care of a hair test and b) STOP LYING SERIOUSLY and ect."
But technically had I NOT walked off the job, it would have been kill or be killed and I'm pretty well versed in criminality now, I mean I accidentally left with a clipboards so had I stayed longer perhaps MUTINES may have happened. Also I got there like 2.1 hours before anyone else, so I guess I could CALL AND GROVEL were it to my benefit but my sis needs to answer.
Also, the boy has decided to leave THIS WEEKEND. My heart is sobbing but my pocket book is frankly NOT.
LOL.
Yeah, I need a few days of like freedom from the real world American Docudrama to catch a prisoner so F it. I'm not going back and frankly that lot are so disorganized NO ONE may even NOTICE if I'm not there, and the hair test, well I've given up finding out anything USEFUl out of it, and I probably need to be outta there for the guard's sake if nothing else. They can smell even PASSIVE resistance and mine is more like ,"We gotta blow this place UP" type of resistance.
Meh.
Anna
[I should have googled, someone said]
Of course I googled the CONTRACTING company and THEY got decent reviews. I already KNOW about the Pima co Sheriff's dept I mean I LIVE HERE NO NEED TO GOOGLE.
But, l checked out contracting company at LENGTH and like, I was to be working for THEM. The Sheriff's dept background check was to be a simple "background clearance" and by the time I GOT to that point (I wasn't even allowed to contact Sheriff's dept directly) I was given a lot of false and unfortunate information, which I really HAD to believe although I don't really QUITE know how I would have verified it, I was not given ANY opportunity to contact them directly and find out more about the process.
I would work directly for Pima Co Sheriff's dept on pain of death. They were supposed to do two things, be reasonable about my background check (fail, there) and "keep me safe," which I was not so WORRIED about given that I seem to have done a decent job of keeping myself safe with far more DANGEROUS released persons, in other programs.
I am not so worried about my SAFETY now, (still, I guess I should say) but more the MUTLTIPLE atrocities and badness that I witnessed. I mean, this is a COUNTY jail, you really it's short term, it's processing they had ZERO need to treat the prisoners or the ONBOARDING staff like that.
Were it not for the fact that diabetes lady well, I liked her, I kind of wished she went into a diabetic coma and etc., and two lawsuits come from that day.
I'm trying to avoid one, I mean, mainly I want to get CLEARED without dedicating ANY more time and energy to that job. If not, I'll have to get a lawyer to clear it based on the fact that I was given incorrect information, I don't really truly believe that I will be able to prove any negligence, and since I DECIDED to wait based on information I was given, well, I didn't HAVE to so really, it's my own fault. I just want it OFF my record, without pissing contractors off too much (too late, apparently). Otherwise, I'll have to see what happens.
Since I learned from my mistakes, I immediately applied to the Federal Pen in Bisbee or Florence or whatever it is. LOL, I KID.
But yeah, I already know ALL about the Pima Co sheriff's dept, I was just assured GOING IN that I would have no problem.
Etc.
My hopes and dreams for the future, if I have any, LOL also what "pedes" means.
Yes, this place was supposed to "Clear up the corruption" which I must say, they have done a terrible job at so far.
I could for SURE detail my first day and onboarding "process and etc." as a real person but frankly I signed a non disclosure agreement so really, I can't. My sis the lawyer gave me decent instructions for HOW to TRY to get them to remain "on my side" so the hair the Sheriff's co has ANY motivation to clear me, but that did not work, so I will be consulting legal aid, probably and somehow my rationale of "I am not cleared yet, so why would I orient WITHOUT knowing what will happen," was faulty. IDK. I tried to be as nice about it as I could be, and I can get legal aid to work with me probably on the hair test.
Nothing is going to change in that jail, nothing if they don't support me regarding the clearance, because they KNOW THEY LIED, so etc. But I'm not going to subject myself to MORE for the sake of a hair test that I can explain to a RATIONAL employer. But no, I was not going to go sit there for three more days, even three more hours, trying to adjust my Being when like, my Being should have No Such adjustment, frankly, it was HORRIBLE and b) I've been lied to so much.
So, I'll possibly fail, in which case yeah, I will lawyer up for whatever things I can actually ACHIEVE hopefully.
Also pedes is "pediatrics" and it's the long drive job that I desperately want but the lady said she'd be back in touch next week, after Thursday probably. They did contact one of my references already and he said, "This is the perfect job for you, Anna," which it probably is which is also the reason why I DID NOT CANCEL that one, despite the drive. I can drive a whole lot better than I can sit idly by, watching human rights violations (and I'm not even that great a DRIVER" LOL, so cross your fingers for that one for me, please. LOL.
Anna
If anyone got to the end of this in one chunk, well congrats. etc.
Anna
Oh alas, it went about as far from "fine" as you can get without someone winding up dead. So I showed up at 7 a.m.. as no one really told me what to do so I was like "I go with my schedule I was told and whatnot." I wandered aimlessly among the mental health workers for a time, before being collected by the remainder of the group, and "green tagged" and also firmly instructed by a sheriff that none of us had been background cleared (it was at this point I got pissy, the woman with no start time just CALLED me and told me it was all fine, and I turned down MOST of my other job potentials before that and I guess Everyone Else knew they are to show up at some 9 a.m. time, but I was led there and we walked and stood around on concrete (don't mind walking it, but listening to a really garrulous sheriff go on and on about really obvious things about prisoners (to me) like don't show them pictures of your home and favorite child, as they will Use it Against you, or Gum (not so much the gum but it could lead to Blackmailing I guess and everyone asked me questions like "Have you onboarded," and it was QUITE clear that I was NOT alone in not knowing what the heck was going on, etc. I guess they're really understaffed.
Snus worked fine and although it may have been nice to a) pee or b) drink something in 4 hour stretches (although they did seem like, they cancelled each other out) well, by the time we were all done with the "tour" well, man, like they all wanted to be on to "safety in prisons" I guess there was going to be like all gruesome pics of like homemade shivs or whatnot. Jail was alternately too hot, too cold, too smelly, and HUGE man. In any case I was like, after the DENIED a diabetic orienteer her lunch and made her eat out of the vending machine, even though they talked about how they denied fat jailees the right to use the commissary for their own safety, at which point I was like, "Man, dude, honestly, prison orientation team I HATE YOU WITH A FIREY hate.) LOL, no wonder jail sucks it's like your hypocrite parents all over again.
So in a fit of defiance, I was like, "They can blow me, I'm going to get my bag, dude, as diabetes lady freaking.... Ate a snickers or whatever," and I went and got my bag, still there and still not full of contraband but I DID go and get my phone and there on it was a person who was all like, "I am from the Sheriff's department and we need to go over your hair test. I called her back and she had all these lists of requirements and I was like, "Clinical lady I LIKED has screwed me out of all the possible jobs I MIGHT be doing except ONE right now, and I am most definitely not cleared. Right now I have the husband photographing some med bottles ALL of which I ALREADY provided, but no, they want them from ME.
I will not be returning until a) I talk to my sister about lawyering up and b) I talk to my sister about lawyering up and c) ad infinitum but I need that hair check cleared and holy goodness just as well I HATED it for the most part (I mean, I'm sure if I had a job I could just do competently well, I would have hated it LESS, how long that may have taken I am unsure) but I was like, "Not a SINGLE moment more," and even if I loved it, I don't quite see HOW I could handle that kind of HR breach of trust, not once but TWO times. I mean...…????
I don't even have the energy to LOOK for one ATM after all the old freaking ones I had either said no to or just curtailed the process. Maybe far drive pedes will could be better, but I think I am going to have to TAKE a moment, and perhaps a vacation from job searching for a bit because this has made me lose trust in many, many things, but I already bought the kid stuff and his birthday present.
I just. don't know how much more CLEAR even I could have been about my hairtest and whatnot, so clinical lady either thought she Knew Better (YOU NEVER Assume you know BETTER than the Arrogantly Crested Pima Sheriff's department you just DON"T or was blatantly lying.
Either way, I don't know how you come back from that sort of thing, although I did just get another interview on Friday and still holding out for the pedes thing.
Although yeah, snus must be working and also, I did not smoke OR cry, but mainly because I want to HURT that company, financially if nothing else. LOL..
Anna
Questions about the leaving/lawyering thing ensued:
Well I did walk off the job, which, like I had a legitimate reason for doing so, you only get so much time to "prove your case" against a hair test. BUT ALSO, I could legitimately say that I was wandering down on the mental health unit with a Pen and such, and had not been "cleared to do so" and so I couldn't be "responsible for my own safety." And whatnot.
Neither could the sheriff though, I mean he had like, this BIG UPFRONT show about how "prisoners know they can't be disgusting to staff" and immediately got up in some behind glass prisoners to "show his tough," but after that, (he did say stuff like, "You should alert the prison guards when you feel unsafe," but then he got all garrallous MODE and paid no attention., once we entered the pods to the upper floors where many prisoners were making like '.........ion or I got great penis and rhythm going on," as he talked.
I finally interrupted to say, "Ah, you got some kiddos up there sort of sperminating at the staff, by the way. While it does not make me uncomfortable PER SE, it does make me uncomfortable that *I* have to be the one pointing it out to YOU, as one of the head staff, although to be fair, I do understand that well, you are doing the talking, and I am doing the "observing."
So yeah, let's face it I'm not cut out for prison work, although like, it's quite clear that a dangerous, .........ory prisoner could have just WRASTLED the pen from me, with no intervention from the prison staff, although I probably could have ALSO talked him into NOT doing that.
Oh, they also had therapy dogs for like "When someone kills themselves it DOES happen more than you'd think, you'll see it sooner than you'd imagine." He said, smugly.
LOL, I was mentally thinking "I'm surprised that it hasn't happened ALREADY but I think I can make a legit argument that I HAD TO GO take care of a hair test and b) STOP LYING SERIOUSLY and ect."
But technically had I NOT walked off the job, it would have been kill or be killed and I'm pretty well versed in criminality now, I mean I accidentally left with a clipboards so had I stayed longer perhaps MUTINES may have happened. Also I got there like 2.1 hours before anyone else, so I guess I could CALL AND GROVEL were it to my benefit but my sis needs to answer.
Also, the boy has decided to leave THIS WEEKEND. My heart is sobbing but my pocket book is frankly NOT.
LOL.
Yeah, I need a few days of like freedom from the real world American Docudrama to catch a prisoner so F it. I'm not going back and frankly that lot are so disorganized NO ONE may even NOTICE if I'm not there, and the hair test, well I've given up finding out anything USEFUl out of it, and I probably need to be outta there for the guard's sake if nothing else. They can smell even PASSIVE resistance and mine is more like ,"We gotta blow this place UP" type of resistance.
Meh.
Anna
[I should have googled, someone said]
Of course I googled the CONTRACTING company and THEY got decent reviews. I already KNOW about the Pima co Sheriff's dept I mean I LIVE HERE NO NEED TO GOOGLE.
But, l checked out contracting company at LENGTH and like, I was to be working for THEM. The Sheriff's dept background check was to be a simple "background clearance" and by the time I GOT to that point (I wasn't even allowed to contact Sheriff's dept directly) I was given a lot of false and unfortunate information, which I really HAD to believe although I don't really QUITE know how I would have verified it, I was not given ANY opportunity to contact them directly and find out more about the process.
I would work directly for Pima Co Sheriff's dept on pain of death. They were supposed to do two things, be reasonable about my background check (fail, there) and "keep me safe," which I was not so WORRIED about given that I seem to have done a decent job of keeping myself safe with far more DANGEROUS released persons, in other programs.
I am not so worried about my SAFETY now, (still, I guess I should say) but more the MUTLTIPLE atrocities and badness that I witnessed. I mean, this is a COUNTY jail, you really it's short term, it's processing they had ZERO need to treat the prisoners or the ONBOARDING staff like that.
Were it not for the fact that diabetes lady well, I liked her, I kind of wished she went into a diabetic coma and etc., and two lawsuits come from that day.
I'm trying to avoid one, I mean, mainly I want to get CLEARED without dedicating ANY more time and energy to that job. If not, I'll have to get a lawyer to clear it based on the fact that I was given incorrect information, I don't really truly believe that I will be able to prove any negligence, and since I DECIDED to wait based on information I was given, well, I didn't HAVE to so really, it's my own fault. I just want it OFF my record, without pissing contractors off too much (too late, apparently). Otherwise, I'll have to see what happens.
Since I learned from my mistakes, I immediately applied to the Federal Pen in Bisbee or Florence or whatever it is. LOL, I KID.
But yeah, I already know ALL about the Pima Co sheriff's dept, I was just assured GOING IN that I would have no problem.
Etc.
My hopes and dreams for the future, if I have any, LOL also what "pedes" means.
Yes, this place was supposed to "Clear up the corruption" which I must say, they have done a terrible job at so far.
I could for SURE detail my first day and onboarding "process and etc." as a real person but frankly I signed a non disclosure agreement so really, I can't. My sis the lawyer gave me decent instructions for HOW to TRY to get them to remain "on my side" so the hair the Sheriff's co has ANY motivation to clear me, but that did not work, so I will be consulting legal aid, probably and somehow my rationale of "I am not cleared yet, so why would I orient WITHOUT knowing what will happen," was faulty. IDK. I tried to be as nice about it as I could be, and I can get legal aid to work with me probably on the hair test.
Nothing is going to change in that jail, nothing if they don't support me regarding the clearance, because they KNOW THEY LIED, so etc. But I'm not going to subject myself to MORE for the sake of a hair test that I can explain to a RATIONAL employer. But no, I was not going to go sit there for three more days, even three more hours, trying to adjust my Being when like, my Being should have No Such adjustment, frankly, it was HORRIBLE and b) I've been lied to so much.
So, I'll possibly fail, in which case yeah, I will lawyer up for whatever things I can actually ACHIEVE hopefully.
Also pedes is "pediatrics" and it's the long drive job that I desperately want but the lady said she'd be back in touch next week, after Thursday probably. They did contact one of my references already and he said, "This is the perfect job for you, Anna," which it probably is which is also the reason why I DID NOT CANCEL that one, despite the drive. I can drive a whole lot better than I can sit idly by, watching human rights violations (and I'm not even that great a DRIVER" LOL, so cross your fingers for that one for me, please. LOL.
Anna
If anyone got to the end of this in one chunk, well congrats. etc.
Anna
The only thing I did not understand is a hair test. No body has ever tested my hair, and why would you need a lawyer over a test on your hair. 
KAS
KAS
I think they test some curlies to confirm if the top is a dye job or not?The only thing I did not understand is a hair test. No body has ever tested my hair, and why would you need a lawyer over a test on your hair.
KAS
I think they test some curlies to confirm if the top is a dye job or not?
I had to rate that as 'like'. Weird wasn't an option.
Hair testing is done to find out "historical use" I've never had one done either and was totally up front that I had used MMJ in the past. They said it was fine. It is completely, totally and utterly the opposite of what they said. I need to get it lawyered away due to the fact that like, I can't have that on my record and would never have tested had they not LIED. Etc.
Anna
Anna
Saga continues:
Man Phyllis you said it. LOL I was told by clinical lady to contact jail HR re: all that. Keep in mind I was not returning, I just wanted to send them a semi reasonable message so my background check was okay. I wrote something up last night and then was like, Don't send mail under the influence of like, sleep meds so I rewrote it today. I sent it and all my recipients were BLOCKED.
What IS it with these people, I just wanted to explain m'self. Oh well, then I asked the husband and like, he was like "get a physical address and send it via certified mail." I kind of didn't see the point of that, other than to like, grab a tiger by it's toe but then I was like, "Well, I guess I could CALL one of them (recorded etc.) but they caught on to that pretty quick and I was like, this is pointless. So then I called to try and get some hair test results. (I am 99.99999999999% positive they will give me a lack of clearance based on nothing else other than I wanted a negative one.)
WTH???? While it's nice to know they hated me as much as I hated them there was nothing unreasonable about my request. I think the place that is working to schedule me, has probably already DONE background or it seems less painful overall than the jail it may even never come up or if I bring it up I can just explain. Who knows. THEY don't hair test anyway. I just... OMG I have never been treated like this before! LOL ever.
Husband is having me call the lot of them as a "good faith" to contact them but I don't quite see the point, etc.
Anna
Beat down by the husband to call and leave messages results in THIS:
Mah apologies, but the pedantic husband got me to call back to try and leave messages and YES they had all been notified because all of a sudden on the end of the line was clinical lady, to whom I never really wanted to speak again. She was all like, "Why are you calling," (she knew why) and denied total knowledge of all emails being blocked (she knew why) and I was indicating I am just trying to leave HR a vm or three given none responded and there are these things called time frames and I do not want to be accused of job abandonment etc. Well it turned into a lengthy and sort of odd call where I was like, "I am being disclosing of EVERYTHING I was told, and this is why I don't want to ORIENT without the background check frankly," and she went on an on about how I was in the same boat as everyone else, and that she could pass along my message to HR but absolutely NO time frame regarding ANYTHING else, and I was insisting it was NOT the same for everyone and she kept saying "I can't understand you," and I was like,, "Well you should let me finish my sentences communication works better that way." Anyway, I kept trying to explain why it would be hard to do orientation without knowledge of background check and no, I did not expect to be paid, but no, neither did I expect to be assigned "job abandonment status."
And then I was like, "Look step into my shoes how would you feel if you had been given INCORRECT instructions from day one when you were honest," and then she told me person telling me what to do for the background check was a SECRETARY and just 'provided paperwork."
I got real heated then, I was like, "You are telling me that the woman who told me ALL about how to handle my background check wasn't even HR? WHUT?" and se was like, "well she just gave you the paperwork," and I was like, Um, no she did FAR more than that, she told me to get a doctor's letter, she did not check ONE time with the sheriff's department she just assumed the less they knew the better and you are now telling me that your company, MHM, allowed a SECRETARY (nothing against secretaries, maybe against the ones who don't tell you, "I'm a secretary so I don't know and I am going to forward you to my HR person who can call the sheriff's department and check, not make stuff up in their minds about what will be acceptable for the kind of background check that should occur, fictionally, and whatnot, not so fond of them."
So my incredulity grew THEN and she kind of got why I was upset about the check THEN although frankly had she been reading ANY of my emails she should already have knew.
Anyway, I hope that is SOME motivation to get the background check dealt with because I could hear her panicking in the background as I disclosed all this when she wanted to know why I was so hostile, and why I couldn't concentrate on my "orientation" at the moment.
So I'm glad we had our hour long talk, I GUESS, oh I GUESS. It will either make things go better or worse, not sure which but after the boy is gone tomorrow I'm calling legal aid first thing I mean GOD. Etc. So something will happen be it deputy sheriff's stalking my every movement (glad the kiddo is leaving, LOL) until they can arrest or discredit me, or something more positive, IDK.
You know, I had the WORST interview ever (still holds true) and now the worst background check ever, I just hope other agency gets back in contact before I get arrested for carrying around too much sugar, but at least clinical lady has a TRUE assessment of what they are FACING. So it could go good or bad, like much in this life, but mainly I'm gonna get ready to go hang with the boy..
As to whether it was good or not that said lady and I spoke or not, well, I wasn't trying to talk to her but it happened, so surely for a reason and etc.
My current mission is to find a combat helicopter and go blow up that jail (in the way of maximum damage to the sheriff staff, and minimum to the prisoners, heck maybe I could make a NONPROFIT out of it, it somehow seems. LOL.
I kid obviously but BAH. What a daymare this has been. I just hope I get cleared, and well, I didn't want more contact but I really want that clearance cleared and whatever, and ALTHOUGH she said their company had NOTHING to do with them, I am not even allowed to access the results directly, apparently they go directly to the company.
So guess there is no backing down now (I miss you Tom Petty) and etc. Sigh.
Anna
THEN, THIS UNEXPECTED THING HAPPENED:
Actually I guess I got bumped up from nuisance ex-employee to "Legal Problem Numero BIGGEST" because the HR head of the whole company just called to let me know that "Of course she understood why I would feel that way, given my clearance issues and I am now on an indefinite leave of absence until SAID HR lady contacted me directly and asked me to put her name in my phone so I could contact them anytime and I again repeated my secretary story (not that I needed to I guess) and I will be notified the MOMENT I am cleared (or not cleared, although she didn't say that, and if ANYONE is ever going to intervene in my clearance status, I'm guessing now will be the time from henceforth which the company starts gently massaging my clearance status, including maybe things they can do to mediate it and etc., if there are any.)
LOL, that was a rapid rise to the top, I almost FEEL bad except the fact still remains, the secretary may have ruined the rest of my career but at least now I can LEGITIMATELY ask the company to work with the board or have my body double pay for and attend my substance abuse classes and/or whatever happens.
Still calling legal aid first thing tomorrow, because if the COMPANY starts to take it all serious.... Maybe I should be worried. Etc.
Anna
WHO KNOWS, but I hope I don't wind up working for them, LOL.
Man Phyllis you said it. LOL I was told by clinical lady to contact jail HR re: all that. Keep in mind I was not returning, I just wanted to send them a semi reasonable message so my background check was okay. I wrote something up last night and then was like, Don't send mail under the influence of like, sleep meds so I rewrote it today. I sent it and all my recipients were BLOCKED.
What IS it with these people, I just wanted to explain m'self. Oh well, then I asked the husband and like, he was like "get a physical address and send it via certified mail." I kind of didn't see the point of that, other than to like, grab a tiger by it's toe but then I was like, "Well, I guess I could CALL one of them (recorded etc.) but they caught on to that pretty quick and I was like, this is pointless. So then I called to try and get some hair test results. (I am 99.99999999999% positive they will give me a lack of clearance based on nothing else other than I wanted a negative one.)
WTH???? While it's nice to know they hated me as much as I hated them there was nothing unreasonable about my request. I think the place that is working to schedule me, has probably already DONE background or it seems less painful overall than the jail it may even never come up or if I bring it up I can just explain. Who knows. THEY don't hair test anyway. I just... OMG I have never been treated like this before! LOL ever.
Husband is having me call the lot of them as a "good faith" to contact them but I don't quite see the point, etc.
Anna
Beat down by the husband to call and leave messages results in THIS:
Mah apologies, but the pedantic husband got me to call back to try and leave messages and YES they had all been notified because all of a sudden on the end of the line was clinical lady, to whom I never really wanted to speak again. She was all like, "Why are you calling," (she knew why) and denied total knowledge of all emails being blocked (she knew why) and I was indicating I am just trying to leave HR a vm or three given none responded and there are these things called time frames and I do not want to be accused of job abandonment etc. Well it turned into a lengthy and sort of odd call where I was like, "I am being disclosing of EVERYTHING I was told, and this is why I don't want to ORIENT without the background check frankly," and she went on an on about how I was in the same boat as everyone else, and that she could pass along my message to HR but absolutely NO time frame regarding ANYTHING else, and I was insisting it was NOT the same for everyone and she kept saying "I can't understand you," and I was like,, "Well you should let me finish my sentences communication works better that way." Anyway, I kept trying to explain why it would be hard to do orientation without knowledge of background check and no, I did not expect to be paid, but no, neither did I expect to be assigned "job abandonment status."
And then I was like, "Look step into my shoes how would you feel if you had been given INCORRECT instructions from day one when you were honest," and then she told me person telling me what to do for the background check was a SECRETARY and just 'provided paperwork."
I got real heated then, I was like, "You are telling me that the woman who told me ALL about how to handle my background check wasn't even HR? WHUT?" and se was like, "well she just gave you the paperwork," and I was like, Um, no she did FAR more than that, she told me to get a doctor's letter, she did not check ONE time with the sheriff's department she just assumed the less they knew the better and you are now telling me that your company, MHM, allowed a SECRETARY (nothing against secretaries, maybe against the ones who don't tell you, "I'm a secretary so I don't know and I am going to forward you to my HR person who can call the sheriff's department and check, not make stuff up in their minds about what will be acceptable for the kind of background check that should occur, fictionally, and whatnot, not so fond of them."
So my incredulity grew THEN and she kind of got why I was upset about the check THEN although frankly had she been reading ANY of my emails she should already have knew.
Anyway, I hope that is SOME motivation to get the background check dealt with because I could hear her panicking in the background as I disclosed all this when she wanted to know why I was so hostile, and why I couldn't concentrate on my "orientation" at the moment.
So I'm glad we had our hour long talk, I GUESS, oh I GUESS. It will either make things go better or worse, not sure which but after the boy is gone tomorrow I'm calling legal aid first thing I mean GOD. Etc. So something will happen be it deputy sheriff's stalking my every movement (glad the kiddo is leaving, LOL) until they can arrest or discredit me, or something more positive, IDK.
You know, I had the WORST interview ever (still holds true) and now the worst background check ever, I just hope other agency gets back in contact before I get arrested for carrying around too much sugar, but at least clinical lady has a TRUE assessment of what they are FACING. So it could go good or bad, like much in this life, but mainly I'm gonna get ready to go hang with the boy..
As to whether it was good or not that said lady and I spoke or not, well, I wasn't trying to talk to her but it happened, so surely for a reason and etc.
My current mission is to find a combat helicopter and go blow up that jail (in the way of maximum damage to the sheriff staff, and minimum to the prisoners, heck maybe I could make a NONPROFIT out of it, it somehow seems. LOL.
I kid obviously but BAH. What a daymare this has been. I just hope I get cleared, and well, I didn't want more contact but I really want that clearance cleared and whatever, and ALTHOUGH she said their company had NOTHING to do with them, I am not even allowed to access the results directly, apparently they go directly to the company.
So guess there is no backing down now (I miss you Tom Petty) and etc. Sigh.
Anna
THEN, THIS UNEXPECTED THING HAPPENED:
Actually I guess I got bumped up from nuisance ex-employee to "Legal Problem Numero BIGGEST" because the HR head of the whole company just called to let me know that "Of course she understood why I would feel that way, given my clearance issues and I am now on an indefinite leave of absence until SAID HR lady contacted me directly and asked me to put her name in my phone so I could contact them anytime and I again repeated my secretary story (not that I needed to I guess) and I will be notified the MOMENT I am cleared (or not cleared, although she didn't say that, and if ANYONE is ever going to intervene in my clearance status, I'm guessing now will be the time from henceforth which the company starts gently massaging my clearance status, including maybe things they can do to mediate it and etc., if there are any.)
LOL, that was a rapid rise to the top, I almost FEEL bad except the fact still remains, the secretary may have ruined the rest of my career but at least now I can LEGITIMATELY ask the company to work with the board or have my body double pay for and attend my substance abuse classes and/or whatever happens.
Still calling legal aid first thing tomorrow, because if the COMPANY starts to take it all serious.... Maybe I should be worried. Etc.
Anna
WHO KNOWS, but I hope I don't wind up working for them, LOL.
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