Department of Defence Weighs in on E-Cigs

[westcoast2]

But this simplistic analysis doesn't take into account that Nicotene is far more harmless that ....... They may both be as addictive as each other, but this doesn't give any assessment of harm.the

What is your definition of "addicting"?

I agree with a lot of what you have said. The link to the SG's statement was to show that the comparison with other (hard) drugs had been used for a long time. Many anti-smoking groups have used this to impress that nicotine is highly addictive and to associate it with .......

Ladyraj and I (and others) discussed the nature of addiction on Dr Siegel's blog recently. Nicotine (or tobacco) 'addiction' does not seem to fit into the traditional addiction model. DSM IV TR changes the nature of the defintion to no longer need tolerance, dependance or withdrawal and allows nicotine to fall into a 'dependance' or 'substance abuse' category.

This broader definition allows for almost anything to be addictive. From Chocolate to the Internet.
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[ShakaCthulu]

wow, proven cessation like the patch and gum???? Wha???
Nestran

Yeah...hahah...proven failures. A 15% success rate after one year doesn't give much confidence.

 

[ShakaCthulu]

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So, define substance abuse:

• You're not able to stop using it when you decide to
• You use the drug despite clear evidence that it is harming you
• There are clear withdrawal symptoms

In this regard, sugar may be the most addictive substance ever!!! People diet all of the time and cannot cut back on their sugar intake. They continue to overeat despite feeling the effects of being overweight. There ARE clear withdrawal symptoms. (Many of the same ones as Nicotine.)

The evil thing about sugar is that they market that ***** to CHILDREN. With flavors like watermelon, blueberry... 99% of Americans use the substance multiple times a day. They combine it with other drugs like caffeine to make stimulant cocktails in their back-alley break rooms.

:clap: Fockin' aye, well said man!

It's a sad situation, though. The governments of the world have their fangs in the necks of all nicotine addicts and won't unlatch for anything. They've got the worst addiction there is, addiction to revenue and runaway spending. Actually, a horde of master vampires would be easier to kill than any government program.