Diacetyl

[player30]

Do any of you which e-juice makers have diacetyl in their juices? I have been careful not to order any juices that sound like they would have butter or cream flavor in them. But I am concerned as to highly used it may be.

Thnaks!

 

[banjo]

There are several threads on this subject here on ECF - just do a quick search...........

 

[player30]

Thanks Banjo, you certainly do provide good information & I appreciate it!

 

[Raynen]

Diacetyl has been a problem, but a lot of ECFers have started/added to threads about it

 

[Lyndagayle]

Here's a good start.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-please-keep-just-listing-supplier-names.html

 

[player30]

Thanks Lynda; I guess at some point we will have to demand a list of ingredients in our juice. I have been questioning, but I am left to trust their answers.

 

[Lyndagayle]

Right now it's pretty much all about trust. That's one of the reasons I use only one supplier for my liquids and the other reason---his liquids are so good and clean tasting, there's no reason for me to go searching for another.

 

[Hotwire]

What is bad about this ingredient?

Thanks

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Inhalation in sufficient quantities is thought to be linked to a serious non-reversible lung disease. Google "popcorn lung".

 

[Hotwire]

Okay, I googled it and I'm scared now (I'm sure that wasn't your intention.)

One of my juices doesn't have that exactly but lists -

2-5 Dimethylpryrazine

2 - avcetylpyrazine

The first has 'di' and the second has 'acetyl' which combines in my now nervous imagination to diacetyl...

Can someone please link threads to discussion on the dangers of this in e-liquids on this site for me...

 

[Hotwire]

Just have been reading further on diacetyl and will no longer order e-liquids that contian it.

Well done OP - you may have saved my lungs, no way in hell I would ever vape that stuff by choice now!

 

[player30]

Just have been reading further on diacetyl and will no longer order e-liquids that contian it.

Well done OP - you may have saved my lungs, no way in hell I would ever vape that stuff by choice now!

Hotwire, My two main sources of E-juice do not contain Diacetyl. The few others I may try are so infrequently used that I doubt they are any more dangerous than eating a bag of microwave popcorn. But I have not ever bought a flavor with a cream or butter theme to it.

 

[player30]

Additionally, I hope we grow to the point that we demand a complete list of ingredients that come in each bottle. Our juice makers probably will not voluntarily do this en masse (some will). And out of country makers probably never will.

 

[Hotwire]

Just for my future reference and experimentation - what are your 2 main suppliers?

greenhouseone has told me they do not use it and they are my only source so far.

Thanks

 

[player30]

Halo & Vaperite

 

[Papa Lazarou]

One of my juices doesn't have that exactly but lists -

2-5 Dimethylpryrazine

2 - avcetylpyrazine

The first has 'di' and the second has 'acetyl' which combines in my now nervous imagination to diacetyl...

They are both flavouring chemicals (quick search on Google suggests they give nutty and chocolate like flavour/odour), but aren't diacetyl. The two chemicals combined don't equal diacetyl. Another name for diacetyl is butanedione and there are some others.

Di just means "two" of something. A famous prank was a campaign to ban dihydrogen monoxide, which listed the dangers of this chemical (fatal to inhale etc.) and describing how it was the principal ingredient of acid rain, and used to cool nuclear reactors. Dihydrogen monoxide is of course another way of describing H₂O or water

 

[player30]

They are both flavouring chemicals (quick search on Google suggests they give nutty and chocolate like flavour/odour), but aren't diacetyl. The two chemicals combined don't equal diacetyl. Another name for diacetyl is butanedione and there are some others.

Di just means "two" of something. A famous prank was a campaign to ban dihydrogen monoxide, which listed the dangers of this chemical (fatal to inhale etc.) and describing how it was the principal ingredient of acid rain, and used to cool nuclear reactors. Dihydrogen monoxide is of course another way of describing H₂O or water

LOL; I still tell folks that one!

 

[ScottinSoCal]

The first has 'di' and the second has 'acetyl' which combines in my now nervous imagination to diacetyl...

Edited - somebody got there before me.

 

[ScottinSoCal]

which listed the dangers of this chemical (fatal to inhale etc.) and describing how it was the principal ingredient of acid rain, and used to cool nuclear reactors.

It's a very corrosive solvent that can wear away solid steel, over time. I supported the ban. I still do. Vodka all around.