Did I ruin my RDA ?? Please help....Iam an I.D.10.T

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So, my "missing" USPS package showed up this evening...WooHoo!!

Got a Phoenix V6 RDA, an Aspire BDC tank, along with some coils and a couple extra ego-c twist batteries.

I soaked all my parts for about 30 minutes or so, just to give a quick cleaning. (except the BDC coil)

For some reason, neither the RDA nor the Aspire will register on my eVic. Tried putting to sleep, power on/off, nothing.

It does register my EVOD head (ego threading) not registering either 510 threaded. Just tried my current tank, AnyVape Davide, and it registers correctly and vapes fine.

After a few minutes of scratching my head, I did the "lift the pin" trick on the eVic, and now the Aspire registers.
Before I soaked everything, I fired up the RDA on a ego battery, just enough to barely see the coils glow. Now it does nothing on even the ego battery. Even tried replacing both coils/wicks with the spares from the box. Do not have my Fluke with me (it's at work).

Anybody have any (sensible) :2cool: ideas?


 

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The RDA has got to be one of the simplest electronic devices invented. A bath should not be a problem. Probably a good practice to wash off any machining residue.

I would check that it's threaded down tight and that there's no corrosion where it will contact the mod. I don't have an evic but you mentioned it has an adjustable center pin. I assume it is contacting the pin since you said you lifted it.

Double check that the screws are tight enough on the coil to make proper connection there.

Double check that the coil does not have any broken wires. If you tighten down the screws too much it can break the wire and look like it's in tact but still not make a good connection with the post.

I'm guessing that RBA came with dual coils pre installed. The resistance may be too low in dual coil mode for the evic to fire. I know my vamo won't fire on anything lower than 1.2 ohms. My dual coil RDA came with two coils installed and it measured 0.6 ohms out of the box. I had to rebuild it with a single coil for it to fire.

In any case the RDA is fine. May need recoiled again but water won't hurt it.
Hope this helps.
 

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SO if I am understanding you correctly (been awhile since I did the whole Ohms/Volts/Watts thing)

By having 2 coils, I have halved the total resistance? If 2 coils were to register, at say .6ohms, would removing one coil then register at 1.2ohms?

Should I just try removing one coil at a time?

Here is a link to what I bought....I do not see it listing a "as shipped" resistance.
Phoenix V6 Atomizer $19.95 - VividSmoke.com
 

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So, my "missing" USPS package showed up this evening...WooHoo!!

Got a Phoenix V6 RDA, an Aspire BDC tank, along with some coils and a couple extra ego-c twist batteries.

I soaked all my parts for about 30 minutes or so, just to give a quick cleaning. (except the BDC coil)

For some reason, neither the RDA nor the Aspire will register on my eVic. Tried putting to sleep, power on/off, nothing.

It does register my EVOD head (ego threading) not registering either 510 threaded. Just tried my current tank, AnyVape Davide, and it registers correctly and vapes fine.

After a few minutes of scratching my head, I did the "lift the pin" trick on the eVic, and now the Aspire registers.
Before I soaked everything, I fired up the RDA on a ego battery, just enough to barely see the coils glow. Now it does nothing on even the ego battery. Even tried replacing both coils/wicks with the spares from the box. Do not have my Fluke with me (it's at work).

Anybody have any (sensible) :2cool: ideas?



What was the ohm reading when the device first registered on the eVic? I am kind of suspecting that dual coils may result in a low ohm reading, and may be a bit too low for the eVic to register (Try to stay above 1.5 ohms). Also, firing it once may have shorted the wicks (It happens frequently to me with pre-made coils), so one or both coils may now be bad.

I would suggest removing both coils, and then just put one back on it to see if your eVic will register the ohms. You may also want to make a wick of a size you have an expected workable ohm reading for and test it on the rda. I truly doubt the rda is the problem.
 

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I did get it to finally fire up again...guess my coils were not touching quite right. One more question...

I can get it to light up (gently, of course) on an ego-c twist, but still nothing on the eVic. Is it safe to use on the ego-c without truly knowing what the actual ohms are? Should I wait to test it on my Fluke at work before vaping on it with an ego-c??
 

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I did get it to finally fire up again...guess my coils were not touching quite right. One more question...

I can get it to light up (gently, of course) on an ego-c twist, but still nothing on the eVic. Is it safe to use on the ego-c without truly knowing what the actual ohms are? Should I wait to test it on my Fluke at work before vaping on it with an ego-c??

Absolutely not.

eGo class batteries are not built to handle LR devices. 2.0 ohms or higher is fine. 1.8 ohms starts to dramatically shorten the life span of the battery. 1.5 ohms and lower and you risk tripping the eGo protection. Do that enough times and it permanently renders the battery non functional. Same issue with dead shorts - it can kill eGo batteries with just a few exposures to shorts. The protection going on here is to protect the end user from blowing up the battery. It won't recover if the protection circuit is blown from repeated exposure to LR or shorts - on purpose. That's the way they are designed.
 

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Absolutely not.

eGo class batteries are not built to handle LR devices. 2.0 ohms or higher is fine. 1.8 ohms starts to dramatically shorten the life span of the battery. 1.5 ohms and lower and you risk tripping the eGo protection. Do that enough times and it permanently renders the battery non functional. Same issue with dead shorts - it can kill eGo batteries with just a few exposures to shorts. The protection going on here is to protect the end user from blowing up the battery. It won't recover if the protection circuit is blown from repeated exposure to LR or shorts - on purpose. That's the way they are designed.


I get exactly what you are saying, so I will not use it without putting it on my Fluke tomorrow at work. Should I test through the entire RDA (bottom pin to coil) or just the two coils themselves?

What does LR stand for? The ECF acronym thing doesn't seem to recognize it.
 

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LR=low resistance
and if you run into it SLR=super low resistance

I would test through the whole atomizer since that's what the battery will actually see. Be sure to subtract the resistance of your leads if using a multimeter (measure the resistance of the leads by touching them together).

For calculating resistances of dual coils (assuming they are the same resistance), yes you half the resistance of one. Two 3 ohm coils (wired in parallel) will measure 1.5 ohms. In general it's a tad more complicated to calculate.

1/Total resistance = 1/resistance1 + 1/resistance2 + 1/resistance3 + ...

If you're looking to get into rebuilding may I recommend the microcoil thread. I've never had a better vape.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...271-micro-coils-increase-vapor-flavor-th.html
 
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