Up in Vapor, thanks for your response, no I didn't follow back up to that thread which I just did now. I'm not trying to bash Drew at all, I believe based upon the following Nhaler has, He has it for a reason. No I didn't receive the email, checked spam etc., But if Drew responded I take his word for it, things do get lost. I've only ordered juice once from Drew and despite not being thrilled with it I didn't complain, I still actually referred newbies to Nhaler as my order may have been a flook ( if that's the word) or maybe effected by the cold weather during the delivery period. Maybe my previous response came out to sound not the way I intended. I certainly apologize! The only thing I am truly upset about I guess was not being able to get an Xhaler (won from someones contest, as I couldn't afford one) That I chose above all other HV's but drew can't control customs. So for what it worth again I apologize, I read Drews sub forums and have defended him many times on others though I don't know Drew. But I do believe what I read from his regular customers and users of his products! PEACE and as always Happy Vaping!