did the FDA just find a way around the december ruling?

[Traver]

What does the FDA mean by ecig? The battery? The juice? the Cartridge and coil? Or any combination?

 

[Bill Godshall]

E-cigarettes were being sold in the US prior to February of 2007.

But that clause in the FSPTCA appears to only apply to products that are already regulated as tobacco products by the FSPTCA, which doesn't include e-cigarettes.

I suspect the FDA is likely to address that issue if/when the agency proposes regulating e-cigarettes as tobacco products, which I suspect will attempt to impose many unwarrranted and draconian regulations on the products.

 

[Who-dat]

Regarding the big tobacco companies, I was just snubbed by one... LOL

I was at the South by SouthWest festival this weekend, where the folks at Camel has a big setup with tents & such. When I tried to enter, they asked if I was a tobacco user. I took a toke off of my Ego, and said I smoked electronic cigs. They said that didn't count, and sent me on my way... LOL

 

[DC2]

it just seems VERY odd to me that this came into effect not even a month after the big ruling in december.

We've been discussing this 2007 thing for a long time around here.
I think it is part of the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (FSPTCA) passed some time ago.

Anyone know why the FDA press release in the original post was sent out on December 5th, 2011?

 

[Vocalek]

Keep in mind that the FDA press release is on the topic of (traditional) tobacco products. The FDA is still working its way through how to regulate the products.

My eye was caught by the statement from Dr. Deyton: “No known existing tobacco product is safe..."

If that statement is true, then so is this one: "No FDA-approved smoking cessation treatment is safe." Of course, some tobacco products and some smoking cessation treatments seem to be a tad safer than others.

I realize that there are still millions of citizens unaware that nothing on Earth could be declared 100% safe. But frankly I am getting tired of seeing this flagrant bending of the truth. And from doctors, no less!

 

[hairball]

This may help our cause. Please read this. It was published in Dec, 2010.

 

[Kevin2011]

Regarding the big tobacco companies, I was just snubbed by one... LOL

I was at the South by SouthWest festival this weekend, where the folks at Camel has a big setup with tents & such. When I tried to enter, they asked if I was a tobacco user. I took a toke off of my Ego, and said I smoked electronic cigs. They said that didn't count, and sent me on my way... LOL

That's funny..

 

[Vocalek]

This may help our cause. Please read this. It was published in Dec, 2010.

Here is a link to the actual journal article, published in the Journal of Public Health Policy:
Journal of Public Health Policy - Electronic cigarettes as a harm reduction strategy for tobacco control: A step forward or a repeat of past mistakes[quest]

 

[Vocalek]

Just this morning, I had another thought about Deyton's misleading statement: “No known existing tobacco product is safe."

I have written some follow on sentences for Dr. Deyton, with the goal of telling the whole truth:

"However some tobacco products are much safer than others. In fact, some tobacco products are as safe, or even safer than, FDA-approved smoking cessation products.

I am sick to death of the lies. Worse yet, those lies will be the actual death of a lot of tobacco users. Convinced that no tobacco product is any safer than another, they will continue to smoke.

 

[DataPhreak]

I am sick to death of the lies. Worse yet, those lies will be the actual death of a lot of tobacco users. Convinced that no tobacco product is any safer than another, they will continue to smoke.

This really is the message that is promoted. It starts in grade school and works it's way all the way up to senior care. Fighting the FDA is much easier that fighting an idea. At least you can, in a sense, touch the FDA.