Diethylene glycol was found

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WILDJC

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Apparently they freaked out over this stuff.

I think it's what we call PG & VG)




Found this on a MRE site for the military.


Fuel Gel, Diethylene Glycol, Military

Here is the real Military deal! The military is now using this Diethylene Glycol fuel gel as the replacement for the old Trioxane Fuel Bars. This gel has a higher heat of combustion per unit mass and its only combustion by-products are carbon dioxide and water. When compared to Trioxane, it weighs less, burns hotter, and doesn't give off toxic gases.
Simply tear open the pouch, squeeze the contents onto the ground or onto your Esbit or Tri-Wing stove, shield from the wind and light with a match.
Place your canteen cup over the flame and in less than 8 minutes you will get boiling water!

  • The gel burns with a steady, blue flame of low luminosity and gives off no smoke. In fact, the clear blue flame is all but invisible in daylight.
  • On average you should expect to get 12-15 minutes of useable flame from a single pouch.
  • Three (3) pouches per box.


So FDA - What gives?
 

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This morning WGN in chicago had a news story on the so called harmful ingredients found in the juices. Yesterday, MSNBC had the same story. The interesting thing was they never addressed what the harmful chemical was and just sad it was used in the making of anti freeze.

Now I do remember a similar indictment on another thread from some lawyers blog about same chemical being found and come join the lawsuit. Is this a retelling of that old story from a month ago (I think) or new information? It can't just be coincidence.

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Mr.E

FDA says electronic cigarettes contain same cancer-causing ingredients as tobacco cigarettes - WGN

The report said nitrosamine as the cancer causing chemical found in most of the e juice tests....

I have a good friend that works for WGN in Chicago..but don't know how to go about approaching this or what to say to her..any suggestions?
 

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Nitrosamines are the main way of preserving processed meats. I think I heard something about the FDA wanting a warning label for hot-dogs recently due to these known carcinogens. It beats trichinosis or other diseases you get without such preservation.

um - I could be wrong - but I think what you are referring to is 'nitrates', not nitrosamines.
 

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um - I could be wrong - but I think what you are referring to is 'nitrates', not nitrosamines.

I dunno....maybe someone could read a package of bacon or hot dogs to find out, but I always thought sodium nitrosamines were used. I mutated fruit flies with them with various amino acid combinations back in high school. I don't keep any such products in my house, but I do love to eat bacon at restaurants:thumbs:. I think ascorbic acid (orange juice) neutralizes these chemicals if also present in the stomach.
 

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Apparently they freaked out over this stuff.

I think it's what we call PG & VG)




Found this on a MRE site for the military.


Fuel Gel, Diethylene Glycol, Military

Here is the real Military deal! The military is now using this Diethylene Glycol fuel gel as the replacement for the old Trioxane Fuel Bars. This gel has a higher heat of combustion per unit mass and its only combustion by-products are carbon dioxide and water. When compared to Trioxane, it weighs less, burns hotter, and doesn't give off toxic gases.
Simply tear open the pouch, squeeze the contents onto the ground or onto your Esbit or Tri-Wing stove, shield from the wind and light with a match.
Place your canteen cup over the flame and in less than 8 minutes you will get boiling water!

  • The gel burns with a steady, blue flame of low luminosity and gives off no smoke. In fact, the clear blue flame is all but invisible in daylight.
  • On average you should expect to get 12-15 minutes of useable flame from a single pouch.
  • Three (3) pouches per box.

So FDA - What gives?
thats sweet.....we used those heating elements just place long strip in bag..put MRE in bag take water fill to line and watch it steam...6mins later you have a hot meal.
 

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I think China is most equipped to deal with any issues that can arise containing and problems with e-Liquid. Out of all of the e-Liquid producers, Johnson Creek has had the most problems with their liquids. YNDK has registered their liquid with the FDA as the FDA has a field office in China.
They have been making it from day one and have been complying with the FDA's needs.

Well with quoting my post out of context of the one I was responding to, it makes less sense. I was only commenting on the previous poster who said that US manufacturers would be the ones to add contaminates to cut costs. I agree with what you're saying.
 

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Quality will vary from company to company, regardless of country. At one of the places I worked here in the U.S., there was an incident one day and we were instructed to pick out the moldy bits from the food product so that the non-moldy part could be sold. One of a few reasons I left that place.

I couldn't agree with this statement more. I used to work at a warehouse that dealt with organics foods and they distribute their products through places like Kroger HEB Walmart and they were working on a contract with Albertsons. The problem with this place was that there was a lot of food that was contaminated and infested and we were told to only take out the contaminated or infested products and to keep the good product. This literally disgusted me and I soon after left the place. The funny part is that the company was to have inspections done by the FDA and other companies to maintain their organic status. To my knowledge they haven't been told to clean up the place once. Also just a side note. A lot of people don't realize this but products like beans and rice that are bought organically usually contain a lot of eggs from meal moths and other insects. If you buy organic clean your beans and rice very well before cooking as you could be eating a bowl of bugs.
 

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I believe nitrosamine is also found in the patch and nic gum.

I am sure I read that just last night. I just don't remember where.
Someone posted a link to an article written by a doctor. I will try to find it.
Here you go. Independent lab tests for nitrosamines on various tobacco and nicotine products (from
Nicotine & Tobacco Research
Volume 8, Number 2 (April 2006) 309–313) http://www.starscientific.com/404/stepanov tsna in.pdf

Pg 4 of the pdf has a table with the results. Results are expressed in micrograms per gram (μg/g). A microgram is 1/1,000,000 of a gram (or 1/1000 of a milligram).
 

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I dunno....maybe someone could read a package of bacon or hot dogs to find out, but I always thought sodium nitrosamines were used. I mutated fruit flies with them with various amino acid combinations back in high school. I don't keep any such products in my house, but I do love to eat bacon at restaurants:thumbs:. I think ascorbic acid (orange juice) neutralizes these chemicals if also present in the stomach.

It is nitrates, but when added to meats for curing/preserving and they combine with the amino acids in the meat then heat is applied (as in frying), you get nitrosamines. The FDA has a rule that ascorbic acid needs to be added to such products to reduce the amount of nitrosamines formed. I'm no chemist, but I just read this somewhere.
 

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FDA says electronic cigarettes contain same cancer-causing ingredients as tobacco cigarettes - WGN

The report said nitrosamine as the cancer causing chemical found in most of the e juice tests....

I have a good friend that works for WGN in Chicago..but don't know how to go about approaching this or what to say to her..any suggestions?

Nitrosamine


Occurrences


Food

Nitrosamines are produced from nitrites and secondary amines, which often occur in the form of proteins. Their formation can occur only under certain conditions, including strongly acidic conditions such as that of the human stomach. High temperatures, as in frying, can also enhance the formation of nitrosamines. These cooking styles may be responsible for thousands of cases of colon cancer per year across the world. The presence of nitrosamines may be identified by the Liebermann's reaction. [1]
Under acidic conditions the nitrite forms nitrous acid (HNO2), which is protonated and splits into the nitrosonium cation N≡O+ and water: H2NO2+ = H2O + NO+. The nitrosonium cation then reacts with an amine to produce nitrosamine.[citation needed]
Nitrosamines are found in many foodstuffs, especially beer, fish, and fish byproducts, and also in meat and cheese products preserved with nitrite pickling salt. The U.S. government established limits on the amount of nitrites used in meat products in order to decrease cancer risk in the population. There are also rules about adding ascorbic acid or related compounds to meat, because they inhibit nitrosamine formation.[citation needed]

Consumer products

Nitrosamines can be found in tobacco smoke and latex products. A test of party balloons and condoms indicated that many of them release small amounts of nitrosamines.[1]
However, nitrosamines from condoms are not expected to be of toxicological significance.[2]

Cancer

Nitrosamines can cause cancers in a wide variety of animal species, a feature that suggests that they may also be carcinogenic in humans. Epidemiological data supports a positive association between nitrite and nitrosamine intake and gastric cancer, between meat and processed meat intake and gastric cancer and oesophageal cancer, but the studies are inconclusive.[3]
 

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