Digiflavor Siren GTA

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DPLongo22

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Reminds me of a song way back when I was young....."We are Vapers, Hear us Roar in Numbers too Big to Ignore....." set to the tune of Helen Reddy's "We are Women".;)

SING it, 52!!!!!

Maybe you can get @Katdarling in on a duet. She LOVES to sing, especially duets. :D
 

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Thanks @kungfugorilla for the info...... that does sound more like the reality of the situation.

I found it a bit weird that they abruptly halted the production line on an item that would presumably be produced on the same line, with alterations.

Oh well, a v2 would have been interesting - they obviously just want to shift as much cloudbusting gear as possible while they`re in vogue.

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One full day and I`ve had a little bit of juice appear at the seams of the bases of two out of the four in test.

Not a lot but saw juice smears on my mod as I was touching it and the base was a little slick to the touch - tissue wipe and it was gone.
Certainly not coming out of the airholes or anything that dramatic.

This was the behaviour I was trying to prevent though - I don`t want to have juice on my mod or my fingers for no reason.

So condensate is still building up in the base (as expected, they all do it to some degree) so I`ll wait and see how they continue.
 

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It`s not as dramatic as the images I put up previously !

It`s quite easy, just like any other similar tank assembly

1. Unscrew the 510 pin
2. Remove the 510 insulator
3. Unscrew the diffuser
4. Using a small flat-head screwdriver - unscrew the airtube from inside the 510 (it is slotted)
5. The positive post and insulator will come free - allowing access to that tube as seen above.

It`s how they assemble them, so a simple reverse - nothing forced, nothing de-press-fitted :thumbs:

Of course, this is still just theorising on my part - hence why I am giving this final test a few days to yield any results - one way or the other.

To recap:
I think liquid could be getting under the positive hard plastic insulator (over time) and down eventually into the base, finally making it`s way out of the AFC ring and onto some people`s fingers.

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Unless the diffuser is acting like a capillary sponge due to the design and actively drawing liquid in - this is another possibility of course.

That would tend to make you think it would happen all of the time, it doesn`t - so it`s all a bit of a mystery.

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Having thought about it some more, I suppose another simple test would be to run the tanks without the diffuser - but with the new o-ring still in place.

That would rule out the diffuser itself being instrumental in any seepage.

It would take days (weeks !) trying to test this properly with different wicks and juice viscosities and vaping styles ad nauseam - I`m not prepared to do that !

...but if a simple fix can be found to help things along, then it`s worth a couple of days of fiddling.

This is very impressive, Fad! Thank you! I am interested to know what you find!
 

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{Verbatim - sent moments ago. I'll keep ya's informed.}

Dearest Digiflavor,

Rumors are swirling throughout Vapeland of a Siren version 2. As one of many lovers of the original, is there any way you're willing to confirm or squash this runaway train?

The 22's are no longer available, and people would prefer to wait if you're introducing a new one, rather than pay an inflated price for a used one.

Any information you share with me will be kept in the strictest confidence.

OK - that's a blatant lie. I'd actually tell EVERYONE, but that's a small detail anyway.

Sincerely yours,
David P. Longo
Stamford, CT

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Bravo Longo! Thank you very much!
 

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Proud owner of two 22mm Siren GTAs. I would love to get my hands on at least one more. It's the best RTA I've found so far. I've been following this thread for awhile and I just signed up to let you all know I've spoken to a representative from both Digiflavor and GeekVape. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear they are currently producing a Siren v2. Here is my correspondence with Digiflavor.

My original message:

I'm looking for your 22mm Siren GTA MTL RTA, but can't seem to find it in stock anywhere. Did Digiflavor stop production on the 22mm Siren GTA MTL RTA? Will Digiflavor ever begin production on the 22mm Siren GTA MTL RTA again? Is Digiflavor planning to replace the 22mm Siren GTA MTL RTA with a different 22mm MTL style RTA? It's important that I find a 22mm MTL RTA with similar specs and wicking. The 22mm Siren GTA MTL RTA is the best RTA I've found and it's unfortunate that I can't find any of the 22mm Siren GTA MTL RTAs in stock. Thank you.
Their response the next day:

sorry, actually we have discontinued this prodcuts as no big request. thanks.
I had seen the reddit thread awhile back and the speculation both there and here that they might be producing a v2 or something similar. But I had a hunch that they were misread. If the original Siren sold so well (which would contradict their claim of "no big request") that they'd make a v2, why stop production on the v1 Siren while they're working on the v2? And if the v1 didn't sell as well as they'd hoped, why would they make a v2? It just didn't make sense, so my hunch is that what Digiflavor actually tried to say was "Keep an eye on our upcoming products" but what it was interpreted as is "Keep an eye out for a new version of the Siren." Since Digiflavor didn't respond to my other question about making a similar RTA I sent another message asking again so I could get a clarification and either verify or disprove my speculation. Hopefully disprove, but... well, see below.

My response:

Well, I barely saw it marketed by Digiflavor so it is not surprising to me that there were no big order requests. Are there any plans to replace the Siren GTA MTL 22mm with something very similar? Thank you.
And their response, this time it took them a whole week to finally respond:

hi, sorry for now we have no plan to produce similar one. will keep u posted. thanks.
Ugh. I hope they were an uninformed CS agent, so I'm looking forward to seeing the types of response you all get, but I suspect they indeed have no plans. Perhaps if others email Digiflavor and Geekvape they will change their mind and make a new and improved Siren--or at the very least produce a few more units of the original--and actually market it this time. But as of now, it doesn't seem like they have any interest in it or plans to do so. I can only hope they change their mind, but I won't be holding my breath.





Thank you for this Kungfu Gorilla! It's not what I was hoping for, but I am glad to know it anyway. Now, I won't keep waiting and waiting on the Siren v2, and can find something else, like the Hussar RTA, to take it's place.
 

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This is very true, I had topped off 3 of the 4 already last night after just a couple of hours - after they had emptied to below the deck, noticeably.

It`s now morning 1 - all bases/AFC rings are still completely dry.

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Incidentally, I have had about 3 minor 'gurgle' incidents - this was, however, due to condensate build up below the drip tip.

The old eXpromizer RTA was an utter nightmare for doing this, juice would build up below the drip tip and NOT run back down into the tank, therefore causing a gurgle on every draw as there was liquid bubble sat inside and up at the top of the airtube - insanely annoying.

So the Siren suffers from this phenomena too, albeit to a lesser degree - nevertheless, it`s still a design oversight/flaw however you look at it ;)

I had a couple of eXpromizers but they simply had to go - I couldn`t deal with that all the time and no amount of DIY (nor the release of the v1.1 or 1.2) fixed it properly.

The point being: if you experience minor gurgling don`t automatically assume it`s due to flooding or even at the main airtube/base.

Fad, I think I'm kloser to 'done' than you are. There is simply NO WAY I would ever do the twists and turns and pretzels to shape this tank into something other than what it tiz.

(By the way...... OH to be your garbage can!)

I'm sorry, but Lazy Vaper is the name of my game, and the schtuff I buy better work out of the box. Isn't it enuf that they require massive kleaning {wicking and filling???}?

There will be more and ?better? tanks coming down the road. MANY more. I highly doubt we'll see a China shortage in our market.

For now, kolor me Egg Rollian.


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SING it, 52!!!!!

Maybe you can get @Katdarling in on a duet. She LOVES to sing, especially duets. :D

Ha Haaa, Kat will sing-a-long, I'm sure of it.:lol::lol:


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