Diluting 100% VG E-Juice
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Yes, distilled water. Not tap water. Tap water can contain minerals and other substances (like chlorine) than can significantly, and permanently, change the flavor. Some folks have suggested using vodka, but I've never done it.
I heard people use pure vg in their protanks after removng the top wick and it worked perfectly. You might want to try that just be careful not to remove more than one as it may cause gurgling and leaking... also be careful as the bottom wick is wrapped with the coil. Good luck!
Yeah I saw that on youtube yesterday as well. From what I understand, there are 2 flavor wicks then a wick wrapped in the coil, if I remember right. I will just try it as is when I get it and I will tinker around with distilled water or the wicks if necessary.
I usually add 3-4 drops of distilled water per tank, using 100% VG juice. Then again, it also really depends what vendor you get said juice from. Anything from Virgin Vapor will vape like a champ in a Protank, I've ordered many bottles from them and it's the perfect viscosity for Protank II.
Not sure if the PT2-Mini is any different, though, it might work a little different so no doubt there will be some testing involved. Fill it up around 3/4th way and see how it works, then add one drop of distilled water. Shake well. Test. Repeat process until desired wicking.
When you're cutting with water, a little goes a long way. Very important to do it one drop at a time else you may end up ruining a few mls of juice.
Good luck
Not sure if the PT2-Mini is any different, though, it might work a little different so no doubt there will be some testing involved. Fill it up around 3/4th way and see how it works, then add one drop of distilled water. Shake well. Test. Repeat process until desired wicking.
When you're cutting with water, a little goes a long way. Very important to do it one drop at a time else you may end up ruining a few mls of juice.
Good luck
I've been told you can dilute the 100% vg juice up to 10% with distilled water or vodka. Enochs idea of a drop at a time is a good way to go.
Good luck to you.
Good luck to you.
It's not at all uncommon for me to add some water to my DIY mixes... and they are not even 100% VG (like 50% or less VG).
I don't even bother with distilled since I don't plan on having an atomizer last more than a month or two anyway. Those trying to get 6 months out of 1 coil may wish to go to the trouble. And yes, I have hard water. Distilled water is mostly a wives tale from a DIY perspective. It's more or less a requirement from a juice vendor's perspective though since they are producing it for resale.
If you do want distilled, and only need a little bit, you can boil some water in a pan and cover it. Collect the condensation on the lid and pour it off. No need to buy a gallon of D.W. since it goes bad (theoretically) soon after opening and is a needless expense unless you use a lot of it.
I don't even bother with distilled since I don't plan on having an atomizer last more than a month or two anyway. Those trying to get 6 months out of 1 coil may wish to go to the trouble. And yes, I have hard water. Distilled water is mostly a wives tale from a DIY perspective. It's more or less a requirement from a juice vendor's perspective though since they are producing it for resale.
If you do want distilled, and only need a little bit, you can boil some water in a pan and cover it. Collect the condensation on the lid and pour it off. No need to buy a gallon of D.W. since it goes bad (theoretically) soon after opening and is a needless expense unless you use a lot of it.
I'm glad you said that, I am getting mine from virgin vapors so that makes me feel a lot better. I also didn't consider diluting in the tank. I was going to be an idiot and start dumping water into the juice bottle! Thanks!!!!
Ok what I want to do is make a mixture that is 75%vg 25%pg and is 40mg nicotine
I smoke a lot and need a lot of nicotine.
I have plans to mix this up soon and was wondering if anyone has tried this before?
I smoke a lot and need a lot of nicotine.
I have plans to mix this up soon and was wondering if anyone has tried this before?
As a biochemistry student and a laboratory professional, I respectfully disagree with you that it is a wive's tale. As I mentioned before, there are dissolved minerals and additives to municipal tap water that can chemically alter the flavoring components in the juice. The hardness or softness isn't the issue, although the calcium in hard water could potentially build up on the atty coils under prolonged use, but probably not very likely. Tap water quality varies widely across the US and the world. In most US municipalities, chlorine or chloramine is added for water safety and to prevent algae growth. Fluoride is also added in most areas. Regionally, dissolved heavy metals, iron, sulphur, copper, and many other elements are also there. These dissolved elements, especially sulphur and copper, can react with the flavoring compounds and significantly alter them causing undesirable taste and aftertastes. I do agree with you that collecting condensate from boiling water is a great idea for someone that only needs a few mils of water. The easiest solution of all is probably using vodka, but since I have unfettered access to DW, I have never used vodka as a cutter.
4% nicotine by volume is quite high. As a former smoker, I have never used e-liquid over 24mg (2.4%) and found 18mg (1.8%) quite satisfactory. Keep in mind that nicotine by itself is toxic, and you may have some serious health implications or death at high levels. I am not saying "don't do it" ... I am just advising caution here. Review this toxicology link for nicotine so that you can be better educated. Especially note that this link indicates 40-60mg/kg can be a lethal dose for a human adult.
Nicotine Toxicology
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As an experienced vaper, I stand by my statement.
It's obvious that I considered the mineral content...hence my hard water statement. Of course, if you don't like the taste of the water, don't use it. Sure, you could find a 1 in 1000 exception. But my general rule is still my opinion.Basically, it turns out that it doesn't matter. Experience over theory. Try it with an atomizer or whatever coil. Unless you have cement for water (
) the PG/VG/gunk factor outweighs any mineral deposits. Totally won't matter.But if it makes you fell better, cool.
It's probably more important, logically, from a bacteria perspective if you have no PG, however since you drink the water anyway...still not important.
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No problem, and I'm not arguing with you at all. I am just pointing out that water varies. Dissolved metals don't make water hard or soft. The hardness isn't the deal. If your tap water tastes good, doesn't affect your flavors, and you find it is working for you, then great! Keep on doing what you're doing. I just felt it necessary to explain why DW does have an important place, and isn't just a wive's tale, as water quality varies so widely.As an experienced vaper, I stand by my statement.
Suggest you start a thread instead of jumping into this one. It's OK, it is expected of new members and doesn't matter if it's a duplicate either.
Dude (or dudette)...I'm just discussing it. It's cool. We're cool.
I used to recommend D.W. too. I just found out that for most people....meh. I quit going all nuts about it. Saves a lot of work. Besides, think about it this way: If it doesn't throw the taste off...do a cost-benefit analysis on how much you are saving (considering that you have to throw out the gallon of D.W. after a week or two once opened). I'm in favor of reducing the PITA factor of e-cigs.
But like I said, if it makes you happy, cool. Go ahead.
I totally agree with you, especially about the PITA factor. Vaping already has so many fiddly parts to it, why complicate it more than necessary? My goal is simply to provide good information, especially for people that don't have years of vaping experience. There is already so much misinformation and disinformation concerning vaping already. I am just sharing my experience, both as a vaper and a chemist, to shed some light on issues that come up within my own sphere of knowledge.
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