Dippin my toes into Mechanical Dripper Mod

[sayurasem]

Hi folks! The vapor got me! I've been vaping for two weeks, on an ego c twist and love it. Since then I've been visiting vape shop and lounges in my local area and just starstruck by the clouds the vape staffs were making! A little chat and learned that they are using mechanical and dripping method.

After some research, I notice these mods are not the practical way... But then I also doesn't want to ditched my ego twist that I just got. So I guess I will use the twist for everyday use and the mechanical just for fun.

so anywhoo can you guys throw me some rba, Mods, and the type of battery should I use? (Throw me anything.. Clones, genuine, etc.)
but I am a very picky person... I would like my mod to be simple as possible, and as small as possible about 4" - 5" in height.


extra question, I've been lurking some threads... And how come most mechanical mods are pretty long? (The mod itself seems to be short, but people use a super long drip tip)?

 

[Thrasher]

the long driptip keeps hot juices and vapor from getting in the mouth while the coil is crackling and popping.

look at a couple threads here in the mods sectionfor ideas on a good mod (clone or otherwise) lots of info and pics.
and the rda forum for lots of dripper talk.
Fast tech has some nice clones, but i dont own any so no help there. others will know for sure.

as for non clones the poldiac is a wicked piece of art that never leaves my desk. and the atmizoo roller is my all day mod, super nice, and ultra smooth button.( i prefer a side button)

FT also has some killer drippers. with the v5, yk1 (drilled these 2 to 1.2mm). and trident being some great drippers for the price.

panasonic and aw batteries, IMR's with the 10 amp+ limit

Im using the 2000mah Aw's and the 2900pd from panasonic with great results.

I notice these mods are not the practical way

you will be surprised. i use my mech with a kayfun for all day out and about vaping.

and the mechanical just for fun.

LOL you say that now, wait till you actually use it. a nice dripper wound to .9 -1.0 ohm on a mech with a nice big battery is better then you think. and the flavor from dripping is very rich and addictive and makes it hard to go back to other things.

 

[sayurasem]

Ah I see thanks for the input!

What's your comment on .3-.7 ohms wiring? Will the flavor taste better on lower ohm? Why I wanted to try mechanical dripping is because of the clouds it makes

 

[Vapeaddikt]

You can make huge clouds w/ bored out holes running sub ohm setups yes. The thing is...at a certain point too big of a hole while it creates huge clouds doesnt have any taste. I typically drip a dual coil setup w/ 28 gauge Kanthal running .5-.6 ohms in a basic 4/5 wrap. I've tried all wrap types out of curiosity and always end up w/ my simple but sweet 4/5 wraps.

As for a RDA Trident get's my vote a real one runs around 85 bucks. A clone (I have both) which honestly is indiscernible in vape quality since really most of that is dependent on your coil/build quality that you do runs $16.35 only downside....your gonna wait a few weeks for it to arrive.

For Mech's any w/ good conductivity. If your looking for the cheap but decent quality route I'd look at an all brass sentinel clone, Chi clone, or private V2 clone all of which can be ordered from fasttech. AKA vapes has a few of them available and they arrive MUCH faster but at a higher cost.

As for flavor tasting better on lower ohm's...most like it but keep in mind anything taken to excess can turn bad as well. You'll just have to play with it and so several builds to start getting a feel for it.

For batteries 18350's are nice for the stealth look for don't have enough juice to last for me. I stick w/ button top 18650's.

 

[sayurasem]

Thanks Vapeaddikt! I just watch several videos on the Atom Mech... Super stealthy with the 350 battery! Your right on the RBA... I think I will go with the igo-w (because of its nice reviews).


Btw anyone can list me all the genuine brands of mech mod? Btw is there any American made mech??? I just noticed Grand Vapor and Atom APV is from the Philipines... Nothing wrong with that country but is there any genuine brand made in the good ol USA?

 

[NicoHolic]

IMO, dripping is the ultimate in vaping and you can do it all day long, one-handed even when driving, with a bottom fed mechanical mod such as the tiny REO Grand. Think business-card sized, as tall and deep as a pack of standard filter cigarettes, but not nearly as wide. Inside is a 6 ml bottle and 18650 battery (AW IMR strongly recommended). There's a shorter version in the Mini 2.1, with a 3 ml bottle and 18490, but most have no problem holding the Grand.

You can start out with disposable cartos or atomizers, and graduate to the Reomizer 2 (RM2) RDA, or as do most, start out with the latter. Setting up the RM2 is dead simple and it's easy to wrap your own standard or micro coils, and load them with silica/ekowool, or inexpensive cotton for wick. It comes with a drip tip, but you can use your own custom one. The wick is kept wet by squeezing (squonking) the bottle through a hole in the front, and the excess drains back into the bottle. No tilting or inverting the mod required.

A REO with RM2 is about as safe as you can make a mechanical mod. The fire button twists to lock. It uses an inexpensive and easily replaced hot spring that instantly collapses in the event of a short, saving you and your battery. The RM2 has drilled, widely spaced posts (not one in the center and one next to it) that are easy to correctly connect to, and the deck (bottom) is ceramic, minimizing a chance of a short. It won't leak if left laying down or in your pocket.

It's American made in Maine, milled out of a single block of aluminum, by a great guy who's active in the Reos Mods forum. There's a huge community of experienced, helpful, and passionate REO owners there, and we invite you to join us with any questions you have.

Setup Video by REO user super_X_drifter:

 

[roguly]

I have a k100 with an Igo-w (setup with dual coils and drilled out airholes). It works...amazingly. Since you want a small mod, you'll probably get a 18350 battery. But be careful if you go sub ohm on the dripper, small batteries are less likely to provide the amps needed. Iwould recommend getting a few unpunched cartos to use when you don't really feel like bringing your RDA and juice when you go out.

 

[sayurasem]

I have a k100 with an Igo-w (setup with dual coils and drilled out airholes). It works...amazingly. Since you want a small mod, you'll probably get a 18350 battery. But be careful if you go sub ohm on the dripper, small batteries are less likely to provide the amps needed. Iwould recommend getting a few unpunched cartos to use when you don't really feel like bringing your RDA and juice when you go out.

Hi Roguly! Do you know any local shop that sell k100 and igo w? I live in inland empire and the shops here hardly have mechanical mods...

I'm probably going to use 18500 I guess... Hope it has enough amp to do 5sec+ drag.

 

[Valhalla17]

Ah I see thanks for the input!

What's your comment on .3-.7 ohms wiring? Will the flavor taste better on lower ohm? Why I wanted to try mechanical dripping is because of the clouds it makes

if you want vape in this area and do it safely you really have to pay attn to your batteries. Not every battery can handle it and that can get dangerous. Ohm's Law Calculator over drawing what your battery can handle will heat it up and shorten its life at best and cause a thermal event, release nasty gasses and blow open your mod, at worst. Use the Ohms law calculator to see what type of amps your setup will be pulling. Common Sense RC check the C rating of the batteries that you are planning to use to make sure they can handle the strain. Enjoy and be safe.

 

[Thrasher]

im in the .9-1 ohm area myself. great taste and decent battery life (i use 650's) i could go lower i just see no reason to push the batteries anymore for a small increase in vapor.

as you play you will find a really good coil with the right amount of airflow will give you plenty of clouds.

most of the ultral low ohm setups are specifically for making unreal vapor but its hot and tasteless most of the time. and special care needs to be taken with the gear, batteries and stuff. play with a regular setup, 1.0 ish ohms and slowly go down from there if its still not enough. with a 1.3mm hole on my v5 i cant see the monitor lol

 

[Ryedan]

I have a K100 and a Chi Chi (Chinese GG clone). Both are great with the 0.6 ohm coils I make for a AGA-T or a IGO-L. Both are telescoping so you can use any 18xxx batt in them. I've never sanded any contacts on either mod and both hit hard enough to keep me very happy. Maintenance is minimal on both also. I used the K100 for a couple of months as my main mod when I accidentally dunked it into a half filled cup of coffee (don't ask ). I washed and dried all the parts except for the battery which I just dried and fired it up. Worked for a bit and I noticed less hit. Cleaned all contacts, used a bit of Noalox on it and it's been like new since.

I'm still getting to know the IGO and using silica on it, but I'm not quite there yet. I drilled out the air hole to 0.050" while the AGA is at 0.063". One step at a time. The AGA with a SS wick has wonderful flavor, but I've been using it for months now and know it well.

Just got a Vmod bottom feeder and modified the IGO for that. It is working out well so far. Nice to have a tank for a dripper! If you don't want to modify anything get a Reo and a RM2. A lot more expensive, but it's ready to go and they are said to be practically indestructible.

I only use 18650 high drain batteries. I have 2 MNKE and 2 Sony, both IMR.

I use short drip tips.

 

[WattWick]

Toe flavor....

You must have very small feet.

 

[NicoHolic]

One of the main mistakes people make when going sub-ohm is to reduce the number of wraps on the micro coil below the 7-9 range. Reducing wraps, rather than going to a thicker, lower resistance wire, reduces the wire to wick (to juice) contact area, leaving one with a hotter, yet less flavorful vape. Maintaining the number of wraps with thicker, lower resistance wire improves the contact area. My favorite daily micro coil is 8 wraps of 26 AWG Nichrome 60 (about the same resistance as 25 AWG Kanthal A1) around a 1/16" drill bit, for 0.5Ω. Given the way it fogs up a room, I don't consider it safe for work, where I use a 0.8Ω micro coil of 8 wraps of 27 AWG Kanthal A1. Both are very flavorful on the REO Grand with RM2, with a very thin strip of organic cotton ball for wick, and I've yet to drill the air hole in one of my RM2s.

It's important to not exceed the maximum continuous current rating of your battery, and best to use name brand, safer chemistry, high-drain 18650 IMR batteries, such as AW's IMRs. I personally wouldn't use smaller batteries or no-name generics, even if claimed to really be some reputable brand, for sub-ohm vaping. If your mod doesn't have a fast-acting hot spring like the REO's, seriously consider using a fuse.

 

[Ryedan]

Thanks for the micro coil data Nicohog. I'm headed that way in a bit and you've just answered some questions I had about it

 

[Valhalla17]

im in the .9-1 ohm area myself. great taste and decent battery life (i use 650's) i could go lower i just see no reason to push the batteries anymore for a small increase in vapor.

as you play you will find a really good coil with the right amount of airflow will give you plenty of clouds.

most of the ultral low ohm setups are specifically for making unreal vapor but its hot and tasteless most of the time. and special care needs to be taken with the gear, batteries and stuff. play with a regular setup, 1.0 ish ohms and slowly go down from there if its still not enough. with a 1.3mm hole on my v5 i cant see the monitor lol

yeah ive gone down to .3 and came to the same conclusion. there is nothing there that I really liked enough to push the envelope on the equipement. about .8 - 1.5 is my happy place with a 3/32 single air hole and single coil. i get a great vape with taste, the warmth i like and an AW 18650 gets me through the work day without burning a ton of juice just to make clouds.

 

[NicoHolic]

Putting this in perspective, I vape about 5+ ml of 50/50 24 mg per day. When using only one mod/day, with either the 0.5Ω or 0.8Ω the battery comes out for charge at about the same 3.6-3.7V simply because I don't hit the 0.5Ω as often. For me, this is wake-up to bedtime, not just an 8-hour work day. YMMV However, I also find that juice amount/battery consumption to be insufficient for a full day with lower nic juice--I hit it much more often to make up for the decreased nic concentration.

eta: Most of you come to vaping from already trying to minimize smoking damage, by smoking light or ultra light cigarettes. OTOH, some of us come from cigars and pipes, never inhaling into our lungs, but still getting high levels of nicotine through large volumes of thick smoke, especially that from large ring-gauge cigars and wide-bowled pipes. Rather than disparaging others as "cloud blowers" please realize what you consider adequate wouldn't keep many of us off tobacco, especially those of us continuing not to lung inhale.