Disappointed: 3.2 ohm atomizer

[Rocketpunk]

I upgraded from a 1000 mAh eGo-T to the Kgo VV. Skipped the Twist entirely.

I use a joyetech 1.8 low resistance atomizer with a drip tip.

I've had nothing but bad luck with clearomizers, and I'm not too keen on the idea of cartomizers. I need some hands-on schooling to figure out how to fill those without making them leak. I've watched Youtube videos galore, but it's so detailed it's like watching how to do a Japanese tea ceremony. I like to "simplify, simplify." My cousin used a ViVi Nova, and it leaked and shorted out his $100 mod. Not willing to take that risk, even on a chance.

But with this Kgo VV, I wanted to experiment with the voltages. My cousin's Provari rocks at six volts, it's like heaven. I can't afford a Provari, though, so this Kgo was supposed to be "my thing".

With my 1.8 lr attys, I got delicious and lung-filling vapes at 4.5 volts. Anything below or above that sucked. Either it was like sucking on nothing, or it tasted like hot, burnt gunk. I did some online research and someone pointed me to the 510 3.2 ohm atomizer. OOOh, I was so happy. With a 3.2 ohm atty I could play with the voltage!

Nope. The attys work just fine, but they suck. I started low, at my 4.5 base setting. Amped it up to 4.8 volts... nasty. Amped it to 5.0 volts. Nasty. Upped it to 5.4. Nasty. I said f it and amped it up to 6 volts. My 4-drip juice was burnt up in 2 hits. Didn't taste ANYTHING but nastiness.

Sigh. I guess I'll just have to stick to my lr attys. This Kgo VV is awesome, but I'm STRUGGLING with something that can handle the voltage and still deliver a delicious vape. So far, there is nothing on the market that would complement my Kgo VV at it's best.

Oh well. At least I know I can vape at 4.5 with my lr attys and be just fine.

 

[nanovapr]

In very general terms, higher resistance atty/cartos will let you user higher voltage, to get higher temps (what we seek) without drawing as much amperage (which makes your battery run down faster). LR came into existence as a way to get a hotter vape from fixed-voltage devices, but they suck more current/amps.

You might try cartomizers, they can be very reliable and are inexpensive. Just keep them wet, and they can last for quite a while. I use Boge 510d 3ohm at about 5 or 5.5 volts, and it makes plenty of vape for me. YMMV

 

[SilentEcho13]

What kind of atomizer is it?

You may benefit from debridging/dewicking it. All of my atties that run at higher voltages are debridged/dewicked from day 1.

 

[gthompson]

You can buy higher ohm devices that will let you run at higher voltages all day. That doesn't mean your juice isn't going to taste like burnt buttcrack when you crank it up that high. VV is for finding the sweet spot.

 

[Rocketpunk]

What kind of atomizer is it?

You may benefit from debridging/dewicking it. All of my atties that run at higher voltages are debridged/dewicked from day 1.

Joyetech 510 LR 1.8 ohm atty.

For dripping. No wicks, just a mesh bridge. I am not about to rip this thing apart. I'm NO WHERE near that confident in my vaping skills yet.

@ Nanovapor, I already said in my OP that I'm highly suspicious of cartos. I won't even buy another clearomizer. Those things were covered in failure sauce for me from the very beginning.

I've tried clearos, cartos, and attys, and so far the only thing that has not utterly failed in craptastic fashion are my joyetech lr attys. Just gonna stock up on a ton of those. Dripping is annoying when I'm busy, but nothing thus far has delivered quite like my attys. Just sad that the 3.2 ohm "made for dripping!" attys failed...

 

[SilentEcho13]

Hmm, maybe invest in a Phoenix or another type of RBA. This $10 Phoenix on my Provari gives me better rips than a HH357 hah.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Gah. You see, I'm not one of those "rebuildable" kind of guys. It's just not me. I don't want to mess with scissors, rulers, math formulas, this, that, the other... Just, no.

Like I said, I live by the rule, "Simplify, simplify."

With clearos, all I had to do was unscrew the tip and fill the tank. But those things worked for $#!+.

With cartos, it was like filling a Zippo lighter. I only knew it was full until it was too late and juice was spilling everywhere.

Just, no.

With my atty, I just pop my tip, drip some drips, pop the tip back in, and vape. Simplicity.

I don't even know what I'm ranting about. Out of everything I tried, only my current atty's have worked to my liking. Again, sigh.

 

[SilentEcho13]

Hmm,

I've used a 2.0ohm HH357 at 5.3v before without any burning taste, no dry hits, nothing. I'm really thinking it's the atty. I've ran a 3ohm LR306 from Avid Vaper at 6v before and it was nothing but deliciousness. Maybe invest in one of those?

 

[DC2]

Did you get all the primer out of that 3.2 ohm atomizer?
If that's not it, then there is something else wrong with this picture.

 

[RedForeman]

Did you get all the primer out of that 3.2 ohm atomizer?
If that's not it, then there is something else wrong with this picture.

Exactly. I just looked at a wattage chart and 4.5V @ 1.8Ω is 11.25w, which would be equivalent to 6V @ 3.2Ω. If the first scenario works and the second doesn't, something else is going on.

Aside from a faulty atty, I'm wondering if there could be an issue with the battery not being able to handle it? OP - did you try this atty on a big battery device (Provari, LT, etc) and get it to work?

Personally I never caught the appeal of high wattage vaping. Anything over about 7.5w starts tasting burnt to me. To each his own I suppose..

 

[jnnfrlsw]

I have the same problems using clearomizer type cartos. What I have found that works best on my KgoVV is a smoketech single coil 3 ohm carto. I buy the prepunched 3 holes from hoosierecigsupply.com and use them in the dualcoil tank. Performs best for me with this set up at 5.8 volts.
I also use their 2.ohm dualcoils-again 3 hole prepunched in a tank set at 5volts. I have never had a burnt taste with a dualcoil carto. hoosierecigsupply.com sells their cartos individually so you can try different ones pretty reasonably. Good luck.

 

[LongHaul]

Just FYI juice doesn't carry current so the nova didn't cause the mod to fry there was something else wrong. If you need to see if what I say is true take a look at how bottom feeders work. By shooing the juice through he connector right through the positive and negative connectors that aren't insulated. This can be don because the juice won't carry current and therefore can't short anything out.


Of course I'm a right wing nut job.....I believe in personal responsibility, NOT government responsibility...

 

[Berylanna]

First of all, the 3.2-ohm cartos I bought showed 2.6 on my cheapo Radio Shack ohmmeter. (Other things measure correctly so I know it's the factory)

Second, my Twist delivers 4.29 v unloaded when set at 4v, my kGo delivers exactly 4.0 unloaded. Nevertheless, loaded, which I can't measure, I had to set my kGo lower than the Twist for the same vape.

Also, if 3.2 ohms needs 6v, you've painted yourself into a corner, try 2.6 or 2.8 so you have some wiggle room in both directions.

Last, the kGo makes crackling noises on one of my ViVi Novas that the Twist does not make on the same device at the same voltage, so something about the power delivery is at least slightly different overall.

I can use them both, but I have to figure out how to vape on each one separately, not by comparing.

 

[LongHaul]

I rebuild my own nova heads so I haven't ever had a problem with being exact to the ummmph degree I put it on and push the button.....not much flavor.....turn up power.....ahhhh happy now and the whole point of the ability to change the power is and has yet again shown its self to be a good thing


Of course I'm a right wing nut job.....I believe in personal responsibility, NOT government responsibility...

 

[Rocketpunk]

Well, here's an update.

I forgot they came with primer. I blew and "burnt" out the stuff and gave it a couple of hours. It's actually working! I didn't realize you have to "work them in". Vaping at 5 volts currently.

I take everything back... for now. I realize these things can be temperamental.

I still think 4.5 volts is my magic number. Nothing wrong with 4.5.

 

[LongHaul]

Nope mine is 4.4 and all is well in the world if I have a 1.5ohm and if it's 2.1ohm it's 4.8v


Of course I'm a right wing nut job.....I believe in personal responsibility, NOT government responsibility...

 

[Rocketpunk]

Another update:

Another sigh.

I've experimented all day and I eventually went back to my original Joyetech 510 lr atty. 4.5 v is my chosen setting. I get consistent good hits at that setting with this atty. With the 3.2 ohm, not so much. Man. This stuff is frustrating and confusing sometimes! Wait... I mean all the time.

 

[LongHaul]

3.2ohm would put you in the 5.8 neighborhood as far as voltage were you trying this on the twist?


Of course I'm a right wing nut job.....I believe in personal responsibility, NOT government responsibility...

 

[Jett1980s]

Just FYI juice doesn't carry current so the nova didn't cause the mod to fry there was something else wrong. If you need to see if what I say is true take a look at how bottom feeders work. By shooing the juice through he connector right through the positive and negative connectors that aren't insulated. This can be don because the juice won't carry current and therefore can't short anything out.


Of course I'm a right wing nut job.....I believe in personal responsibility, NOT government responsibility...

If you look on youtube titled the Vivi Nova story by Grimm Green he's had it fry out his battery on the 2 occasions he tried to use it on his silver bullet, so it's really hard to say this is the second time I'm hearing such a case but it has never happened on my Lavatube 1 or my Provari.

 

[Jett1980s]

Just to add a little info usually when I'm vaping I don't really care what the ohms are, as long as your getting that same wattage that you like to vape at you're going to get the same vape that you love. whether it'd be 1.5ohms 2ohms 3ohms, it doesn't matter as long as you're getting the same wattage out of your device, that's the main functionality of a variable voltage mod, it allows you to buy almost anything and use it and be able to tune it to your sweet spot, i wouldn't worry too much about what the voltage is at, as long as you're getting the same power output you're good to go, this was posted somewhere else but you can use this as a reference and note down the wattage you like to vape at.

http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp