I have the monoject and the turemo, and I prefer the turemo. Fits nice and snug, no glue needed.
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I've just finished cutting/cleaning an Excel and the CE2 v4 does fit easily, but appears to be snug enough. Picked up a couple of B-Ds tonight and thought they looked smaller in diameter. Not sure I'll get to it tonight, but definitly want to try these out.
thanks for all the ideas and info.!
Get the excels from the pharmacy? All they had were 5ml Excels when I went there...got Ideal Instruments syringes from Feed store (thats all they had) and way too wide...
Hi gotlogos,
I got it with a DIY orders, either One Stop DIY in MN or DIY Flavor Shack in Vegas... could have been either or both - they both carry them but don't label the brand. The B-Ds I picked up at CVS tonight. There are discounted syringes all over the internet so which ever brand works best should be readily available - now ya' gotta' build 100 of them!
I couldn't get away from the B-Ds so I cut one of those too. The BD is a bit smaller on the inner diameter, but not by much. The BD appears to be 8mm and the Exel 8.5mm. It is probably enough to make a difference in the tightness of the seal. This is not an accurate measurement at this point... gee, need another new tool, go figure.
Mine came in today....like an hour after I posted. I'm glad I got them for the weekend.
The monoject's are 1mm smaller (ID) then the Terumo's. The BD's are almost 30mm smaller according to an online source. All 3ml by the way.
Exel is done... nice vape too. I'm using a C2 V4XL - took 2ml on the load and doesn't appear to leak at all - I'll have to watch for a seep after time. I was going to PTB, but this thing is working great without it - after the 3rd draw I had to slow down. I cut the tube at about 58mm so there is a bitof a 'smoke' chamber at the top.
The only problem is the loseness of the drip tip... I'll have to try a heat shrink on the top of the tube.
Okay, had to stop and go put the BD tube together. Since I cut the tube shorter, I put a regular CE2, probably a V2 (plastic cup) on it. Took about .8ml and the drip tip locks in fine and leaves about a 2mm 'smoke' chamber at the top. One of the claims made by BD is that they have a 'thin wall' which does seem to be the case when compared with the Exel... it does improve the appearance a bit. I also adjusted my juice down 12mg to 24mg... it seems to be easy to overvape on these... I will be converting my CE2 XLs to this one.
Side by side, I would choose the BD over the Excel. The slightly smaller inner diameter gives a snugger grip on the connector end and the DT fits better. Vape performance on both is very good without further moding. These things are juice hogs... do not drive or operate heavy equipment, slice vegatables or work with power tools while using this device. Adjusting vaping behavior is recommended.
storminyte... mercy ... you thunk up a gudin'! Thank you!
The only problem is the loseness of the drip tip... I'll have to try a heat shrink on the top of the tube.
Okay, had to stop and go put the BD tube together. Since I cut the tube shorter, I put a regular CE2, probably a V2 (plastic cup) on it. Took about .8ml and the drip tip locks in fine and leaves about a 2mm 'smoke' chamber at the top. One of the claims made by BD is that they have a 'thin wall' which does seem to be the case when compared with the Exel... it does improve the appearance a bit. I also adjusted my juice down 12mg to 24mg... it seems to be easy to overvape on these... I will be converting my CE2 XLs to this one.
Side by side, I would choose the BD over the Excel. The slightly smaller inner diameter gives a snugger grip on the connector end and the DT fits better. Vape performance on both is very good without further moding. These things are juice hogs... do not drive or operate heavy equipment, slice vegatables or work with power tools while using this device. Adjusting vaping behavior is recommended.
storminyte... mercy ... you thunk up a gudin'! Thank you!
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Excellent Turbo! I was looking, but didn't find the I.D. listings - Thank you. I gotta get me a better yard stick!
@Teach,
You said The only problem is the looseness of the drip tip...
I just re-use the SS tube that I cut off and press it into the top plastic of the syringe. that also cools the vape down to where I like it too. Hey, Cool,, adjustable temp too.
You said The only problem is the looseness of the drip tip...
I just re-use the SS tube that I cut off and press it into the top plastic of the syringe. that also cools the vape down to where I like it too. Hey, Cool,, adjustable temp too.
Thank Gummy, Good idea. I left the tube longer and it does great at cooling. The BDs work great with the DT so I converted all three of mine to the BD.
The B-Ds do work great but can be a challenge to slip over the cut carto. If you use the Monojects they slip over snugly and more easily but when you do that use the end that would leave your syringe markings upside down...its tight enough that, so far, I don't have issues when I unscrew the syringe mod from the battery...
glue dries tonight, testing tomorrowUpdate on B-D tubes:
Had one start to stress fracture today around the base where the E2 assembly is seated. There is some seepage, but its slight. This was E2xl v3 which measures the same v4xl. The B-Ds on the v4xl and the v1 regular show no fractures. I like the B-Ds because of the tight fit and this may be a fluke, may have been some other damage when cutting, but it may just be too tight.
I'll try to find some more B-Ds to check further... glad I didn't order a box of a 100 now.
Had one start to stress fracture today around the base where the E2 assembly is seated. There is some seepage, but its slight. This was E2xl v3 which measures the same v4xl. The B-Ds on the v4xl and the v1 regular show no fractures. I like the B-Ds because of the tight fit and this may be a fluke, may have been some other damage when cutting, but it may just be too tight.
I'll try to find some more B-Ds to check further... glad I didn't order a box of a 100 now.
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I think they all flute, The Terumo's don't fit as tight as you are all saying but they definitely do not leak! You may have cracked it when you cut it, (like you said), I did that when I first started and then went to a dremmel to cut them because of it.
I was getting a lot of condensate in the tube above the filler ring. I cut a small circle of blue foam the size of the tube and seated it on top of the filler ring (I cut my tubes to be longer than needed.) This does wick up the excess moisture and hold down on the buildup I've had on the E2xls.
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I'm hoping so... since the first one I did is fine, and the last one isn't showing signs I'm hoping for that. Not pleasant to find even a small amount of juice, but that's part of the game.
Condensation is really always going to be a problem. Keep in mind, the vapor is mostly water. Just think of the fluid in our lungs, ha-ha. Blue foam is a great idea. Are you taking it out to let it dry out? I keep the distances pretty short so most of my condensation is in my drip tip rather than the carto.
I might try that over the weekend, or just cut it back and use another short ce2. I do cut them so the colar (under the open end of the syringe) remains to provide a lip for the DT. Definitely want to try another tube though. If it happens only once, I'll settle for fluke.
I was getting enough (possibly because of the longer tube) that I was going in to clean on occasion... just didn't like it rolling around in there for some .... reason. I only pull them on refill, blot them, and put them back in. Rinsing and drying certainly wouldn't hurt considering the moisture it collects. I was planning to break them down and do an alcohol soak and steam about once per week. The foam does scorch a bit after several fills, but nothing to taste when there is juice left... or maybe I'm just missing the taste of the blue foam?! I may decide to replace it every clean cycle.
I do cut the tube long - about 1 to 2mm from each end. There's plenty of room in it for a layer of foam.
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