Disrespectful Little Punk

[jstjoehere]

Definitely not a good thing. Your right he was just being a punk trying to get that attention. Even though I vape I dont go in restaurants or any other public places just to prove I can do it. Maybe if its an outside event like a fair or something yeah whats it going to hurt but inside a grocery store thats un-called for. You done the right thing even though it probly didnt sink in at all.

 

[Damrin]

Ok, to me this is a respect issue. When I was growing up that kind of thing wouldn't fly. Cellphones during meals, talking loudly during movies... Now, I admit, I'm only 35 but it seems to be that common courtesy has just gone downhill. I went to the zoo a few weeks ago and learned that there was no smoking or vaping on the premises. It ...... me off something fierce, but I respected it. Most of these hipsters don't seem to get social niceties and that really annoys me. I have observed this kind of behavior multiple times in public in recent years and when you call someone out on it they look at you like you are crazy. I don't get it... OK, that's my rant...

 

[Jimi D.]

If I was his age I'd probably do the same thing. Ahhh to be young again

 

[remmy00]

LOL not being funny but no random could tell me what I can and can't do either, especially if it's not even breaking rules/law or offending the person you were concerned about. That could be down to vaping being a lot more accepted in the UK with most places allowing people to vape indoors.

I think the bigger issue is the fact that one persons actions will lead to prejudice against an entire group of people, in the UK we tend judge a**holes on an individual basis, not come across one, and label anyone alike one too smh. Each to their own, as a vaper, i still ONLY represent myself, not every other vaper, just as i don't represent every male, or Jamaican, or short sexy person lool

I have lived in the UK and still have relatives in the UK.... hate to break it to you, but Brits are no less prone to stereotyping than any other culture. They (as do all people) have a tendency to group people whether it be based on dress, attitude, hobby, heritage or any other factor.

While you may "judge a**holes on an individual basis" the very fact that you state that "in the UK we tend to" means you are grouping even if it is on a positive note.

Fact is, the one most common grouping tendencies is when people are seen engaging in similar behaviors/hobbies.

A**Hat vapers will color societies view of all vapers.

 

[bluecat]

It is not just in vaping. The kids in our society have grown mainly through the public education system. This has been happening over the last 30 years. Our lawmakers (brightest of them, at least as a dull lightbulb) have basically said let's bribe them. We give them cars for coming to school every day. We give them candy for doing x thing. If you do such and such over a week you can have tickets to buy something out of a bucket at the end of the week. These kids believe that they are the center of the universe. Now the kids know that the teachers are being graded by the students grades. Bribes anyone?

Kids and young adults think they can do what they want without fear of persecution in the legal sense or the non legal sense.

This punk is just what we as a society reap by that. A society of no respect.

 

[Big Southpaw]

First of all, I am claiming "Hipster While Shopping" as my band name.

Profanity in public, contrary to popular belief, is not generally illegal, but grown ups should know better.

 

[WharfRat1976]

I know this topic has come up a thousand times but yesterday, I was in line at a checkout at a local grocery store and as I was leaving, I glanced over and noticed an 18-21 year old vaping right in front of the cashier while he was checking out. I kept walking to my car when I told my wife I was going back in to have a word with this kid. I grabbed my MVP from the car, went back in and introduced my self as a fellow vapor and then proceeded to politely inform him that was he was doing was disrespectful and giving the rest of us a bad name. His response? "I't's not illegal".

Although he was right, it's not illegal. I informed him that he could wait five minutes to vape or ask the manager if she didn't mind him being a hipster while shopping. Again, I told him this is one reason we are getting a bad wrap. Blank stare... so I left. I had a strong suspicion that he wasn't vaping to quit his tobacco addiction but to 'look cool' while being a .... at the same time.

I smoked for 25 years and have successfully quit using e-cigs. I don not feel the need to vape inside public places as I wouldn't smoke a cig in public places.

Just had to rant.

Good for you. When I am in public I rarely "correct" anyone or anything. Too many lunatics walking around these days. #BewareOfBigPharma

Paul Lynde singing "Kids Today" from Bye bye Birdie. It starts at around 1:18. Hilarious and enjoy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wCXr_6wgns

 

[NathanielFT]

I have lived in the UK and still have relatives in the UK.... hate to break it to you, but Brits are no less prone to stereotyping than any other culture. They (as do all people) have a tendency to group people whether it be based on dress, attitude, hobby, heritage or any other factor.

While you may "judge a**holes on an individual basis" the very fact that you state that "in the UK we tend to" means you are grouping even if it is on a positive note.

Fact is, the one most common grouping tendencies is when people are seen engaging in similar behaviors/hobbies.

A**Hat vapers will color societies view of all vapers.

Thats great to know but from my experience where i was born raised and lived for 24 years there is not much prejudice and those who act like dicks aren't a representation of every other person like them.

Ok, if your hooded up in a group of guys or a bald head geeza covered in tattoos people will be weary and may stereotype out of fear which is a natural defence mechanism, but i find it hard to believe someone vaping indoors would lead anyone other then the simple minded to say 'this guys a ...., all vapers must be dicks'.

I can only speak for myself, but i wont stop something i want to do because some guy i don't know doesn't agree, who the hell made him the vaping police?? The store security and staff had no issue, so i'd tell him to mind his own and move along quickly.

I don't like fat girls coming out in crop tops and see though leggings, or people walking around stinking of bo, but who am i to tell them anything? Just keep it moving.

I especially won't avoid doing something because i may be grouped by some simple a**holes and cause mass prejudice against the kind i am 'apparently' representing, as i said i represent myself not others with similar looks or hobbies, so i don't have any kind of responsibility to uphold the ideal persona of the typical vaper, or any others for that matterlol.

Not saying i even agree with vaping in a store in close proximity to others, but who is anyone to put pressure on this random kid to uphold the reputation of vapers as a whole? If he doesn't do it your way he has no right to quit cigs with ecigs?? Get a bloody grip i say, too much of this us vs them crap going on, its really not that deep - and again i say maybe this is because the UK is very vape friendly in comparison to how it sounds like it is in the US.


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[Spencer87]

I'm actually with the kid on this. As long as not blow in people's face, all good. If your allowed to, do it. Show people it's not bad. We need to use so people can be educated.

 

[Asbestos4004]

vendors,juice makers,vape shops,should start educating people about what is the real purpose of vaping,instead of showing people how to cloud chase, and I think they have to look at the real focus,, WHY DO YOU WANT TO vape? When you educated customers about vaping there's a bigger chance you won't se DISRESPECTFUL PUNKS..vape on

Why insist on bringing cloud chasers into this? I asked the question on page 1 of this thread....was he a cloud chaser? The answer was NO, he was using a cheapy ego.....just like 99% of the other social offenders we hear about. Yet, we just can't accept that it had nothing to do with cloud chasers, can we? I bet a cloud chaser sold that idiot the cheapy ego.....damn cloud chasers! They'll ruin EVERYTHING for us!

 

[NathanielFT]

Why insist on bringing cloud chasers into this? I asked the question on page 1 of this thread....was he a cloud chaser? The answer was NO, he was using a cheapy ego.....just like 99% of the other social offenders we hear about. Yet, we just can't accept that it had nothing to do with cloud chasers, can we? I bet a cloud chaser sold that idiot the cheapy ego.....damn cloud chasers! They'll ruin EVERYTHING for us!

I think the amount of pretentious and 'us vs them' vapers around is far more damaging to whatever 'vape society' (lol) is being represented then any cloud chaser or indoor vaper, just my opinion


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[Ken_A]

Ok. Everyone is stating an opionion and expecting everyone else to take it as fact.
Let me give you two quotes.
The first one, you will recognize. Google the second one.

ecigarettes will normalize smoking again

“Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

Saying that rude people gives "us" a bad name is just like the first quote.

Expecting good manners from anyone under the age of 1,000 years of age 100% of the time is like saying you were never rude.

I honestly do not think that a few young vapers being young will cause the world to end.

Was the youth the OP was talking about a rude little .....? Yes
Will I be judged a bad person by society because he and I both vape? No
Is it a good thing to point out to someone that they are being rude? Yes
Can you expect anyone under 1,000 years of age to politely say "oh, gee you are right mister, and I am wrong."? No

But you can probably expect that same young person to one day go up to some young person and try to correct bad behavior.
And that is how young people learn to be good people. By someone older pointing out the bad, and praising the good.

Next time congratulate the young person for not smoking at his/her age, THEN point out that the checkout line may not be the best place to exercise his/her right to vape.

 

[Asbestos4004]

I think the amount of pretentious and 'us vs them' vapers around is far more damaging to whatever 'vape society' (lol) is being represented then any cloud chaser or indoor vaper, just my opinion


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...and an excellent opinion it is. I couldn't agree more. 2 enthusiastic thumbs up!

 

[spitfirelance]

but who is anyone to put pressure on this random kid to uphold the reputation of vapers as a whole?

I am, and I'll do it again. (OP)

 

[NathanielFT]

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[Shootist]

In my opinion it is all about how he was vaping. If he was taking small draws and not expelling large amounts of vapor, and not directing the exhale at the cashier I don't see that much wrong with it. I vape in stores, I vape in restaurants. But I don't blow clouds. Usually I will be vaping on a Cig A Like and not on a Mod and Kayfun.

Not sure I'd do it standing in line at a cashier.

No one SMOKES inside store anymore because it is no longer allowed. But when you started smoking those 25 years ago it probably was allowed in some stores, mostly all bars and some restaurants.

But then we are not SMOKING. That distinction needs to be made.

 

[wv2win]

I find it interesting that almost every thread on this subject is started by someone who just joined ECF and has relatively few posts. I've been vaping for over 4 years and have never seen anything like this and I am in a major metropolitan area and in stores, shops and businesses every day.

I also find it quite childish that everyone of these "thread starters" condescendingly believe they must judge others and dictate vaping behavior. Let's see, isn't that exactly what all the liberal senators and ANTZ's are doing who want vaping banned - judging others based on their view of superiority and wanting to dictate how others live.

Give me a break.

 

[Zealous]

In my opinion it is all about how he was vaping. If he was taking small draws and not expelling large amounts of vapor, and not directing the exhale at the cashier I don't see that much wrong with it. I vape in stores, I vape in restaurants. But I don't blow clouds. Usually I will be vaping on a Cig A Like and not on a Mod and Kayfun.

Not sure I'd do it standing in line at a cashier.

No one SMOKES inside store anymore because it is no longer allowed. But when you started smoking those 25 years ago it probably was allowed in some stores, mostly all bars and some restaurants.

But then we are not SMOKING. That distinction needs to be made.

This^^^

I find it interesting that almost every thread on this subject is started by someone who just joined ECF and has relatively few posts. I've been vaping for over 4 years and have never seen anything like this and I am in a major metropolitan area and in stores, shops and businesses every day.

I also find it quite childish that everyone of these "thread starters" condescendingly believe they must judge others and dictate vaping behavior. Let's see, isn't that exactly what all the liberal senators and ANTZ's are doing who want vaping banned - judging others based on their view of superiority and wanting to dictate how others live.

Give me a break.

And definitely this ^^^^

 

[Panorama911]

Why waste energy/time trying to teach manners, respect and common sense to an adult? This is the parents job, sad to say they failed.

 

[Tangaroav]

I tend to agree with Amraan, I do not think it is right to try to force one's opinion or belief on others based on our personnal views of any subject.

That kid was not doing anything that warrant being called a punk or a nit. He was vaping in a public place, ( which I sometimes do). So what ? I do not see this as bad manners. Why create a scene just to force your opinion on someone else ? What is the point ?

We have too many zealots amongst our politicians and religious leaders. Look where this is leading the world too....