Dissapointed

[Are Jay Maytuh]

just got my vamo v3 today and it's working very well. Which version did you have and how's the sigelei treating you? I have been eyeing one of those as well.

I have a V3 as well, I love it minus that one little problem. I could just epoxy it but I dont feel I should have to. Since I had been eyeing the sigelei I decided this was an excuse to buy it, so far, huge fan of it. Much higher build quality feel IMO. Lighter weight and shorter too! Not a huge fan of the menu necessarily, but I am a big fan of the Segelei so far.

I've been counting down since this post started... It has taken 23 responses until the Provari response got in here. It usually comes in much quicker than that....

Yeah, mention the provari, ill gladly take one, if you are going to pay for it. I dont have 200 to spend on a mod alone. I like the VAMO V3, it just has a defect, and one that apparently doesnt come up much from what I have found. Do you and Riverboat think there has not been one single provari in the course of time that had a defect from the factory? I dont see why I would spend 200 on a mod when the ones i got for 50-70 each do the same thing just as well. Granted, im on day one with my Segelei, but still, I dont see the need to buy a provari besides to say you have the extra income to do so. Yeah, I made 2k over the past 4 days (legal taxable income, gotta love unions), but I can think of better things to spend it on, car insurance, rent, more juices to fill my tanks, gasoline, food, etc. Hell, for half the cost of a provari I got the zmax and 2 bottles of juice.

 

[yaypudding]

Yeah, I couldn't justify buying a provari. SInce I'm just starting out in this vape adventure, i didn't want to invest in an expensive mod like the provari. However, I can see where reliability can play a huge factor for some people. When all you have on you is that one mod, and it craps out on you, and you're trying to quit the stinkies, it can lead to a relapse. So for sake of mind, that $200 price tag and it's reputation can put you at ease.

 

[Are Jay Maytuh]

Yeah, I couldn't justify buying a provari. SInce I'm just starting out in this vape adventure, i didn't want to invest in an expensive mod like the provari. However, I can see where reliability can play a huge factor for some people. When all you have on you is that one mod, and it craps out on you, and you're trying to quit the stinkies, it can lead to a relapse. So for sake of mind, that $200 price tag and it's reputation can put you at ease.

But thats the thing, a $200 mod can fail too... Just because it is more expensive and made in the states does not mean it will never fail on you. I typically only carry my mod, if it fails, no worry of a relapse, at most i can take 2 drags before i remember how much i hate cigs, they arent worth it. Im more addicted to smoking than I am the nicotine, which is why i get higher nic content, it keeps me from chain vaping. If i had 0 nic I would vape all day long, but 18mg forces me to stop once i hit a certain point.

My V3 still works, its just a bit of an annoyance at what it does (the end cap coming off at the positive battery connection point). Not completely off, but its loose. I typically only carry one mod, but i may start carrying an ego battery as a backup though, just in case.

 

[Riverboat]

Yeah, mention the provari, ill gladly take one, if you are going to pay for it. I dont have 200 to spend on a mod alone. I like the VAMO V3, it just has a defect, and one that apparently doesnt come up much from what I have found. Do you and Riverboat think there has not been one single provari in the course of time that had a defect from the factory? I dont see why I would spend 200 on a mod when the ones i got for 50-70 each do the same thing

Lets put it this way, yes I am sure there has been defective Provaris, but they are far a few in between.... Provaris are basically "Bullet Proof".... And if you have a problem they come with a 1 year "Rock Solid" warranty from a USA manufacturer that has great customer service..... If you ever wanted to sell your Provari they sell fast and command top dollar.... Hold one in your hand and compare it to a $50-$70 mod.... Then you will know what the fuss is all about...Go to the Provape forum and see how many complaints there are, almost none...then check out the cheap VV mods and the complaints list goes on and on.... Provari #1 Variable Voltage Mod... Period!!! No I am not a Provari fanboy just a smart consumer who demands quality and reliability.......You get what you pay for....

But thats the thing, a $200 mod can fail too...

My V3 still works, its just a bit of an annoyance at what it does (the end cap coming off at the positive battery connection point). Not completely off, but its loose.

End cap coming loose? That's speaks for itself = V3 Cheap China Junk.....

 

[Are Jay Maytuh]

Lets put it this way, yes I am sure there has been defective Provaris, but they are far a few in between.... Provaris are basically "Bullet Proof".... And if you have a problem they come with a 1 year "Rock Solid" warranty from a USA manufacturer that has great customer service..... If you ever wanted to sell your Provari they sell fast and command top dollar.... Hold one in your hand and compare it to a $50-$70 mod.... Then you will know what the fuss is all about...Go to the Provape forum and see how many complaints there are, almost none...then check out the cheap VV mods and the complaints list goes on and on.... Provari #1 Variable Voltage Mod... Period!!! No I am not a Provari fanboy just a smart consumer who demands quality and reliability.......

But thats the thing, a $200 mod can fail too...
My V3 still works, its just a bit of an annoyance at what it does (the end cap coming off at the positive battery connection point). Not completely off, but its loose. QUOTE]
End cap coming off speaks for itself.....Proofs in the pudding =V3 China Junk................

It is a result of something being just out of tolerance, which is why i went out and bought the sigelei, from what i have read, the problem i had with my vamo is not a common one. I am not against the provari, I just cannot justify spending $200 on one. I only see a marginal benefit, not enough for me to justify the price. Not all of us have that kind of money laying around. Yes, I made about 2k this week, and yes, i have about that in my bank account at the moment, but I work with a union, and am only an apprentice, so I have to call in every day and hope i get called back, sometimes i have a week or two i dont work, so i have to budget for downtime. I am happy with the vamo minus that one thing, the rest of it is great, and the sigelei is excellent IMO. Suggesting someone buys a provari when they are looking at vamos or sigeleis is like suggesting someone goes out and buys a Mitsubishi Evo when they are looking at the base Lancer DE (i used this only because im watching top gear while i pack my room up for the move, and i have a Lancer DE, but would love one of the higher trim lines, but they were out of my budget. My 2010 Lancer DE is paid off completely, had I bought an Evo I would still be paying it off.) The comparison is a bit of a stretch i guess, but the point is, I have a pricepoint I am looking at, and suggesting i multiply it by 4 is just not going to happen. I dont need a provari, just like i dont need an Evo, the Vamo/Sigelei do the job just fine, kinda like my base model lancer gets from point A to B just fine.

You do realize that the problem I am having is simply caused by 2 pieces being at the opposite ends of allowed tollerances which is causing the pressure fitting to not have enough pressure yes? I wouldnt call this cheap chinese crap, this .... happens from time to time.

 

[Riverboat]

You do realize that the problem I am having is simply caused by 2 pieces being at the opposite ends of allowed tollerances which is causing the pressure fitting to not have enough pressure yes? I wouldnt call this cheap chinese crap, this .... happens from time to time.

There you go-poor tolerance's = Cheap quality control... I still believe a Provari is the best bang for your buck VV mod available... And don't tell me you cant afford one, if you smoked you spent that much a month on cigarettes.
Yes your car example was a bit of a stretch when your talking about tens of thousands of dollars vs. a hundred!

 

[Are Jay Maytuh]

There you go-poor tolerance's = Cheap quality control... I still believe a Provari is the best bang for your buck VV mod available... And don't tell me you cant afford one, if you smoked you spent that much a month on cigarettes.
Yes your car example was a bit of a stretch when your talking about tens of thousands of dollars vs. a hundred!

Yeah I used to spend a lot but the reason I switched was to spend less. And at the moment there are better things I can do with that extra 150. Chicago isn't a cheap place to live man. Gotta save what I can where I can and I'm happy with what I have. So something slipped past qc, that happens from time to time. I've seen factory defects on all sorts of high end electronics in my line of work but will agree the Chinese tend to have the worst qc.

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[jazzbo]

Just because something is 'Murican made does not automatically bestow infallibility or superior quality control upon it. I owned a ProVari and had a few issues with it; had to send it in twice for a wonky switch; after a few months had to send it back to get the PCB replaced. Finally just sold the thing on and picked up a Silver Bullet and a couple of Vamos. But if they ever make a 5 amp minimum current version with a better menu system, I might get another ProVari.

 

[Riverboat]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/apv-discussion/444942-provari-why.html

 

[JR 137]

Everyone who's been on this forum more than once (and many who it's their first time) know the ProVari. There's ads and it somehow works its way into almost every thread. Even people posting in the New Members forum asking about very inexpensive cig-alikes have several ProVari recommendations.

By all accounts it's a great mod. I'll even give it the benefit of the doubt and say its the best on the market. I don't think anyone is disputing their track record nor their value.

A lot of people, myself included, get very tired of hearing how its so much better than everything else and everything is a waste of money. I get so tired of people telling me I can afford something. Ever see my bank statements? Do you know my family situation? That really needs to stop.

The cheapest new ProVari I've found - $159.95
Cheapest new Vamo - $28.23

That ProVari is 5.7 (rounded up) times the price of a Vamo V2 in chrome. Rounding in the ProVari's favor, you'd have to go through 5 Vamos before you're about even. Assuming every Vamo breaks the day after the 6 month warranty, you've got 2.5 years of Vamo. How long on average do ProVaris last? Not a sarcastic question, as I genuinely don't know. Do they routinely go 3 years?

I'm not questioning the price of quality craftsmanship, QC, warranty honoring, etc. the ProVari is priced the way it is for a reason. The Vamo is also priced the way it is for a reason. Two different products for different consumers.

The ProVari may be perfect for some people; doesn't mean it's perfect for everyone. People lose sight of the fact that people have differing priorities.

 

[ed101z]

Provari, and other mods have one thing in common. They are Variable Volt BATTERIES for power. That's just part 1 of the equation though.

Part 2 is.. the Juice you use, and the device you put it in. I'm finding that this is the most difficult part, and has more to do with your Vaping experience than anything.

 

[JR 137]

Provari, and other mods have one thing in common. They are Variable Volt BATTERIES for power. That's just part 1 of the equation though.

Part 2 is.. the Juice you use, and the device you put it in. I'm finding that this is the most difficult part, and has more to do with your Vaping experience than anything.

Absolutely. The best battery and delivery device in the world (if there really are any best) isn't going to make a juice taste better. They may allow the flavors to come out more effectively, but the wrong juice is the wrong juice no matter what it's vaped through.

Delivery devices are probably the second most personal thing. They all draw differently, wick differently, and end up giving a different overall experience. The right juice in the wrong delivery device isn't going to keep you coming back. It may hold your attention briefly, but not long term.

The end result can only be as good as the weakest link allows.

 

[Baranox]

Everyone who's been on this forum more than once (and many who it's their first time) know the ProVari. There's ads and it somehow works its way into almost every thread. Even people posting in the New Members forum asking about very inexpensive cig-alikes have several ProVari recommendations.

By all accounts it's a great mod. I'll even give it the benefit of the doubt and say its the best on the market. I don't think anyone is disputing their track record nor their value.

A lot of people, myself included, get very tired of hearing how its so much better than everything else and everything is a waste of money. I get so tired of people telling me I can afford something. Ever see my bank statements? Do you know my family situation? That really needs to stop.

The cheapest new ProVari I've found - $159.95
Cheapest new Vamo - $28.23

That ProVari is 5.7 (rounded up) times the price of a Vamo V2 in chrome. Rounding in the ProVari's favor, you'd have to go through 5 Vamos before you're about even. Assuming every Vamo breaks the day after the 6 month warranty, you've got 2.5 years of Vamo. How long on average do ProVaris last? Not a sarcastic question, as I genuinely don't know. Do they routinely go 3 years?

I'm not questioning the price of quality craftsmanship, QC, warranty honoring, etc. the ProVari is priced the way it is for a reason. The Vamo is also priced the way it is for a reason. Two different products for different consumers.

The ProVari may be perfect for some people; doesn't mean it's perfect for everyone. People lose sight of the fact that people have differing priorities.

Well said..

 

[oldjoe]

Against my better judgement, I bit the bullet and got another Vamo. I ran across a weekend only deal I couldn't resist - Vamo plus a 18650 battery for $40 + change including shipping. Ya just can't beat a Vamo for bang per buck!
I got the Black Chrome this time and all works well, for now. Only two minor complaints. t
The battery extension tube is a bit lighter in color but the the finish on Vamo's is about as bad as one can get so not a big shocker there and it rarely leaves the house.
The 510 threading is real tight. I have a 510 to Ego adapter ordered to prevent damage to the units 510 connection.

 

[oldjoe]

I've been counting down since this post started... It has taken 23 responses until the Provari response got in here. It usually comes in much quicker than that....

I Administrate on a PC repair forum, Moderate on another PC repair forum and been a member on many more forums of assorted types.
Thread hijacking is a repeating occurrence on any forum.

 

[JR 137]

I Administrate on a PC repair forum, Moderate on another PC repair forum and been a member on many more forums of assorted types.
Thread hijacking is a repeating occurrence on any forum.

I'd say this particular instance is more fanboy-ism than hijacking. But both are absolutely far too rampant and equally annoying on every forum I've ever seen.

 

[nahoku]

I'd say this particular instance is more fanboy-ism than hijacking. But both are absolutely far too rampant and equally annoying on every forum I've ever seen.

Annoying is a massive understatement!

 

[Glen Snyder]

Got a response around 11pm finally. They said I have to ship it back then they will ship a new one. I replied and told them I won't have a shipping address to ship to until the first of the month since I'm moving and I have yet to get a reply. I may just swing by cigtechs after work today and snag a zmax since I've had my eye on them anyway, lol. Then I can send the one back to fasttech and not be modless for 2-3 weeks since they will ship the package to il, which will get forwarded to Texas and held onto by my parents till I move I into my new apartment in Chicago. Been wanting a telescopic zmax anyway, here's my excuse to get one, lol.

Edit: just checked my inbox, they replied and said not a problem. I now asked if I can keep my long battery tube since that works fine and they don't ship those out anymore.


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Fast Tech has exceptional customer service. I'm sure they will do everything possible to satisfy you. A sub forum for Fast Tech has been added recently for anyone that's interested. FastTech

 

[awsum140]

I took mine apart and all seemed to be in tact. I think the circuit board crapped out. I won't be getting another Vamo but I'm looking for something as functional/simple that doesn't weigh 200 grams and leave copper smell on my hands.
I'm considering the SID but I want a simple menu.

You can get a replacement circuit board from Exhalevapors and have it running again if you already have it apart.

 

[nahoku]

You can get a replacement circuit board from Exhalevapors and have it running again if you already have it apart.

I bought one from exhalevapors about a month ago but I don't think they carry them anymore, last I checked, that is.