DIY E-juice mix starting ratio vs combined

[Cablman]

I have been searching for weeks to find some guidance on mixing e-juice with multiple flavors. I understand how to find the sweet spot for a single flavor. What works best for me is to mix a straight single flavor with my PG/VG ratio I like at 20% flavor and then cut that mix in half using the PG/VG ratio (60/40 in my case) with no flavor added. This makes a mix at 10% flavor and then I cut that in half again to make a 5%. For example I make 20 ml at 20% and use 10 ml of that to make 20 ml of 10% and use 10 ml of that to make 20 ml of 5% (if 5% is too strong I keep going). So now comes the hard part, I now have a bottle of 10ml at 20% a bottle of 10ml at 10% and a bottle of 20ml at 5%. So, let's say the flavor was Cheesecake and I like this flavor at 15% (I got there adding 5ml of no flavor mix to 10 ml 20% bottle.

I want to make White Chocolate - Raspberry - Graham cracker Crust - Cheesecake. Let's say I know the flavors taste best to me at 5%-10%-2%-20%. I know I can't add 37% flavored juice so where do I start to combine all these flavors? I doubt any of the pros hang out here but I can't post anywhere else.

 

[BigCatDaddy]

Do a search for E-juicemeup. It's a free download and there are bunches of recipes to work with. You deifinately need a juice calculator instead of just fumbling around. Mixing your own flavor combos is trail and error, mostly error. Always mix in 5 ml batches till you get one you like.

 

[steved5600]

OK I"m not a DIY expert and you may not like what I do. Flavor is just to subjective. First let me get the DIY speech out of the way. DO YOUR HOME WORK AND DON'T USE NIC BASE HIGHER THAN 36MG. Your new mistakes happen better to make it with 36mg than 100 which can give you one hell of a headache and a big TH. That being said. You need some things . You need a dripper atty. Little atty that takes drops not ml. Make nothing bigger than 5ml and with out nicotine until you get the flavor where you want it. Use the smallest measuring device to do the job they are more accurate.
Start at a total flavor lvl of no more than 5%. Next advice is you may be using to many flavors. Try it with out the graham cracker at first. Graham cracker crust has been a tough one for me. Raspberry is often pretty strong. If i were to start this I would do 5-5-5-8. Also there is a flavor enhancer you can use on the crust its called Acetyl Pyrazine. If you have trouble getting the graham cracker crust taste you may want to try some of this. If the Raspberry is to harsh add Ethyl malto (sparingly)
Last this is adding up to a lot of thing go slow and start with the key flavors you want then add the other later.
How do I know some of this Because i messed up a bunch of batches. That is why you don't use nicotine in the first batch until you get the flavor right nic is expensive. ALSO GET A GOOD ELIQUID CALCULATOR>

 

[steved5600]

Oh Google what they use in some raspberry flavors you'll freak. LOL I love Raspberry and don't care if it has some juice milked from a beavers ..... LOL

 

[Susan~S]

I doubt any of the pros hang out here but I can't post anywhere else.

As of now, you have 7 posts so you should be able to post in most forums.

 

[flowerpots]

I have been searching for weeks to find some guidance on mixing e-juice with multiple flavors. I understand how to find the sweet spot for a single flavor. What works best for me is to mix a straight single flavor with my PG/VG ratio I like at 20% flavor and then cut that mix in half using the PG/VG ratio (60/40 in my case) with no flavor added. This makes a mix at 10% flavor and then I cut that in half again to make a 5%. For example I make 20 ml at 20% and use 10 ml of that to make 20 ml of 10% and use 10 ml of that to make 20 ml of 5% (if 5% is too strong I keep going). So now comes the hard part, I now have a bottle of 10ml at 20% a bottle of 10ml at 10% and a bottle of 20ml at 5%. So, let's say the flavor was Cheesecake and I like this flavor at 15% (I got there adding 5ml of no flavor mix to 10 ml 20% bottle.

I want to make White Chocolate - Raspberry - Graham cracker Crust - Cheesecake. Let's say I know the flavors taste best to me at 5%-10%-2%-20%. I know I can't add 37% flavored juice so where do I start to combine all these flavors? I doubt any of the pros hang out here but I can't post anywhere else.

I am in the same place of learning DIY. I have my ideas of where each flavor shines. The key is always getting the %'s of each flavor right in a recipe. This is the part no one can really just give you a straight forward answer. It helps if you know what you are looking for in the recipe. For example, if you are making the cheesecake recipe, what flavor do you want to dominate? Would you prefer a stronger fruit note or a stronger cheesecake note? Whichever flavor you want to pop, I would use that flavor at the % you found was best as a single a flavor. If the sweet spot was 10% as a single flavor, then use 10% of it. Use smaller %'s of the other flavors based on what you are looking for in taste. Sometimes, the ratio of flavors needs to be the opposite of what you expect, and you will only find this out by trail and error. I wish I had better or more advise for you, but I just don't. I have read a lot on the DIY forums and there is a lot of good, albeit often times conflicting, advice there. Read all of the sticky notes, even if they seem irrelevant to you at this point. Good luck to you and let us know how your recipes turn out and even what you learned in the process. It helps others like me who are in the same boat as you.

 

[Cablman]

OK, I have the software already and understand the percentages, as far as the 100mg Nic I have that covered. I have eject able Pipettors coming in 2-10ml and .1-1 ml and I have a stand for the bottles drilled in a 2x12 board (no spills and I never have to touch the 100mg nic. just eject the pipett into a bucket of water. The Nic stash I bought is packed in Argon Gas and it is only available in 100mg. I have already been mixing with 36mg for awhile. Thanks steved and flowerpots your posts help me out, I think I'll split this in two and perfect Cheesecake and Graham cracker then perfect Raspberry and White Chocolate. Can I then mix the two in a ratio to my liking and deconstruct the result to mix a batch all at once? I keep track of every detail in Microsoft OneNote, including pasting the Ejuice me up formula to it.

 

[Cablman]

Oh, and then you throw in the fact that steeping changes the flavor so it takes a week to know if the fresh batch taste you like steeps well. Steved, I also have a Patriot dripper with a microcoil on a Nemesis clone but the flavor at the same wattage is nothing like what I get in my Kayfun lite with the same exact 8 wind 1.8 ohm coil organic cotton wick. This Kayfun rocks for flavors.