So I just started getting into DIY and I ordered a lot of flavors from LorAnnn and Flavor Apprentice. So far I've had a few tanks crack or melt on me. Is there a way to stop this without using a glass tank or maybe different clearomizers? I've had problems with Key Lime(LA), Honey Suckle(FA), and Red Hots(FA), but only when I mixed with Wintergreen. What other flavors are gonna do this? Is anything citrus like or labeled as an oil or cinnamon based gonna cause this? What should I avoid mixing together? Sorry I know there is a DIY forum but I'm a noob to the site. Thanks
DIY flavors cracking clearomizers and Vivi Nova
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I haven't gotten into DIY flavors but I have heard that many banana and cinnamon based flavors will erode most plastic clearos, even ones stated to be resistant.
So it's possible you might have to switch out to a glass or metal tank, but hopefully someone can give you better info than I can
So it's possible you might have to switch out to a glass or metal tank, but hopefully someone can give you better info than I can
Citrus and cinnamon flavors as well as wintergreen can eat plastic tanks. Other flavors can dilute them enough to not cause problems. I have a lemonade/tea mix that causes no trouble. I hear good things about the pyrex tanks.
I know cinnamon will do it. Make sure your not using oils because there very caustic on plastic. You will know if they like to separate.
I've had tanks crack before I even finish one fill. I mixed Key Lime and Cherry and placed in a Vivi Nova tank and it cracked open in less then 2 minutes. I see stores selling Key Lime flavors with no warning. Are they using a different Key lime then LorAnn?
The stronger cinnamon flavors, not so much the flavors with a touch of it, will crack or melt polycarbonate tanks. So yes, you can dilute them to an extent, but you'll want to experiment a little about the level of dilution.
Generally, it's the highly acidic flavors that do this, including some cola flavors and most (but not all) citrus flavors. I don't believe it's relevant whether or not they are oil based. I know from experience that at least one pineapple flavor does it as well.
There is an old, very long thread here that I should have bookmarked, keeping track of which flavors have caused problems. You can likely find it with some searching since it is updated (or at least it was) pretty regularly.
Other than glass or metal tanks, plastics high in polypropylene are resistant to this problem. You can tell them by their foggy appearance as polypropylene is not as transparent as polycarbonate. It is also softer and high PP tanks and cartos feel less hard than pure polycarbonate ones. Gotvapes says their Vivi Nova 2.5 tanks are crack resistant, but I can't vouch for that because they appear to me (as does the rest of the tank) to be absolutely identical to the 2.0 version and I haven't tested their claims. OTOH, I have used some cartomizers with the high PP plastic formula and it definitely holds up to high acid juices.
There is also at least one tank out there made from delrin, which is impervious to anything. The name escapes me but maybe someone else can chime in. The problem with that tank is that is not very much more transparent than metal, although it does have a "fuel gauge" of thinner delrin that can be semi-transparent under the right lighting. In fact, I think the name of that tank might be "Fuel tank".
Generally, it's the highly acidic flavors that do this, including some cola flavors and most (but not all) citrus flavors. I don't believe it's relevant whether or not they are oil based. I know from experience that at least one pineapple flavor does it as well.
There is an old, very long thread here that I should have bookmarked, keeping track of which flavors have caused problems. You can likely find it with some searching since it is updated (or at least it was) pretty regularly.
Other than glass or metal tanks, plastics high in polypropylene are resistant to this problem. You can tell them by their foggy appearance as polypropylene is not as transparent as polycarbonate. It is also softer and high PP tanks and cartos feel less hard than pure polycarbonate ones. Gotvapes says their Vivi Nova 2.5 tanks are crack resistant, but I can't vouch for that because they appear to me (as does the rest of the tank) to be absolutely identical to the 2.0 version and I haven't tested their claims. OTOH, I have used some cartomizers with the high PP plastic formula and it definitely holds up to high acid juices.
There is also at least one tank out there made from delrin, which is impervious to anything. The name escapes me but maybe someone else can chime in. The problem with that tank is that is not very much more transparent than metal, although it does have a "fuel gauge" of thinner delrin that can be semi-transparent under the right lighting. In fact, I think the name of that tank might be "Fuel tank".
Interesting. I used 15% Key Lime in a Vivi Nova with no problems, even after a couple weeks. It was FA brand and the Vivi was a genuine Vision, but was not Gotvapes so-called V2.5.
read this thread. It has good information on the topic. If you have a juice that cracks plastic please post it there so the list can be updated
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ices-flavors-crack-tanks-ce2s-clearos-33.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ices-flavors-crack-tanks-ce2s-clearos-33.html
Thanks for the link fred, this is invaluable information for us newbies to find. Glad I found out before I just started filling up tanks with whatever. Trying out new equipment for the first time and cracking a tank would be pretty discouraging, and would probably make me think the tank hardware was junk rather than realizing it was the juice.
Thanks. That's the thread I was referring to. I'm saving it this time.
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