Ok so I am not an ECF veteran, I'm not a newb in any sense, but I'm certainly not a PV pro...For awhile I wondered whether or not I would ever even want to make my own liquid..It's cheap, what I order is good, why change it now....WELL LET ME TELL YOU WHY...I've made 6 5ml batches of my own liquid inluding Cherry, blueberry, RY4, Strawberry Menthol, Vanilla mint, and one which I just threw in a few different ones to see what would happen....5/6 of my very first attempts, have been better than anything I have ever ordered from V4L, Blue Mist vaping, and backwoods Brew...It is so much fun, it's cheap, you can easily twak somethign that has potential to make it great (kinda how my strawberry menthol came about), I've alreayd found more flavors I like, no wait, my dad thinks I'm doing ...... cause he found syringes, and my favorite part is I give some to my friends and now they want to buy my liquid...Go to DIY FlavorShack and order the premium mixing kit NOWWWWWWW...Dawn is amazing <3 but DIY is more Amazinf <33333333333....I've been so thrilled with it lately, and it's truly been the best experience of my time vaping...I'm done ranting now..Peace love and ignorance =p