Hey guys I am going to start making my own flavors and I was wondering, where does everyone get their DIY Nic, PG/VG, and flavorings from?
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This is a DIY liquid posting. The People in Black may move it to the DIY Forum. I don't think it is a biggie, though.
Anyway, I am on a tablet and copy/paste is not the best. Probably going to that forum, you will find a lot.
I just ordered my first liter of Nic. I want to start also. I have been playing around with the computer web page SteamEngine and the tablet and phone apps. I will use that.
Anyway, I am on a tablet and copy/paste is not the best. Probably going to that forum, you will find a lot.
I just ordered my first liter of Nic. I want to start also. I have been playing around with the computer web page SteamEngine and the tablet and phone apps. I will use that.
I can only say, do it. Try some recipes that people have acknowledged to be good. So you have some good juice to vape on when you are making your own concoctions. You will not only be happy you are saving money, but you will realize how amazing what you make compares to store bought juice. You will not regret it, and the initial plunge is a couple bottles of store bought juicemin price. Remember to start small in quantity, then you can build them up when you figure out what you love. Good luck!
Oh I have bought 500 ml of nic from nude nicotine, then purchased 1 liter of nic from my freedom smokes and also vg. The only pg I put in my juice is the flavorings, the r r st is vg. But as they say YMMV.
DIY E-Liquid there's a link to the DIY sub-forum, look around, introduce yourself, there are folks willing to help with every conceivable question there.
Unflavored Nicotine Base - Nude Nicotine a link to my personal favorite
Premium Nicotine - Vapers Tek another favorite vendor.
Unflavored Nicotine another really good vendor for nicotine.
VG-PG Specials: Essential Depot some of the best PG and VG available at very reasonable prices
My preferred vendor.
Do your homework about handling nicotine safely. Read as much as you can in the DIY sub-forum. It is a very rewarding path and you can learn to make premium juice for a fraction of what pre-made costs, with a little time and effort expended. The DIY sub-forum is an invaluable resource chock full of information with just a little searching and some time invested. Make the search function of the forum your friend, it may take a little while to get the hang of it, but in the end it is well worth the effort
Unflavored Nicotine Base - Nude Nicotine a link to my personal favorite
Premium Nicotine - Vapers Tek another favorite vendor.
Unflavored Nicotine another really good vendor for nicotine.
VG-PG Specials: Essential Depot some of the best PG and VG available at very reasonable prices
My preferred vendor.Do your homework about handling nicotine safely. Read as much as you can in the DIY sub-forum. It is a very rewarding path and you can learn to make premium juice for a fraction of what pre-made costs, with a little time and effort expended. The DIY sub-forum is an invaluable resource chock full of information with just a little searching and some time invested. Make the search function of the forum your friend, it may take a little while to get the hang of it, but in the end it is well worth the effort
Ecig express. I get everything there. There is a 10% discount for all ECF members too, just look for the coupons link in the top banner. :?)
Edit to add: I get all my pg-vg at Essential Supply because the price cant be beat, but if you are just starting out, its much easier to stick with one supplier until you want to branch out.
Edit to add: I get all my pg-vg at Essential Supply because the price cant be beat, but if you are just starting out, its much easier to stick with one supplier until you want to branch out.
I get my nic from MyFreedomSmokes.Com and have never had a reason to want to pay more than their $50/liter for 100mg concentrate at their every day price. If you are not comfortable at first working with 100mg concentrate they also have good prices on 24mg, for example.
I have bought VG from Bulk Apothecary, Essential Depot and MFS. All tasted the same to me. I found BA to have the best price for a gallon, and ED the best price for 2 gallons. Amazon has a very good price on ED in quarts, especially if you happen to have Amazon Prime. Shipping is a big part of the cost so factor that in. I use very little PG and probably still on my original liter from MFS a year later.
For flavorings, I concentrated on the big TFA thread in the DIY sub forum. I used mainly Bill's Magic Vapor's recipes, which are all high flavor mixes that require little or no steeping. I highly recommend that approach because you get instant gratification and feedback instead waiting weeks for your concoctions to steep.
The way I did my flavorings was mainly sourcing 8ml sample vials from Wizard Labs. I used those sample vials to find the recipes and flavorings I liked. Then I bought my most needed flavors direct from TFA in 4 oz botles. You have to sign up for their bulk flavoring account but it's easy. You can also get TFA 4 oz and other put ups from many other sources but I decided it was probably best and often cheapest to go direct to TFA.
The economics of juice is that unflavored base, bought correctly, will cost you around 1 cent/milliliter. That's 30 cents for a one ounce bottle. In particular nic is cheap now, but it is not likely to stay that way so I would suggest stocking up with a few liters as soon as you are comfortable working with concentrate.
The cost is all in the flavorings. To do a 30% high flavor mix, for example, your cost will go to about 3.5 cents/ml. And that doesn't count inventorying a growing pile of flavors. I spent about $500 rather quickly just accumulating mainly sample bottles of about 100 flavors so you have to be careful unless you are looking for a new moderately expensive hobby
Those 8ml sample bottles from Wizard Labs cost $1.49 each. An ounce of TFA will run you about $4.50 - $5.00. A 4 oz bottle direct from TFA will run $6 - $10 or so. For an extra couple bucks you get 4x the flavoring.
Once you DIY you will never look back. Not only do you save money but you get total control over exactly what you vape and come to understand eJuice in a way you cannot otherwise do. And it takes all the mystery and magic out of it.
I have bought VG from Bulk Apothecary, Essential Depot and MFS. All tasted the same to me. I found BA to have the best price for a gallon, and ED the best price for 2 gallons. Amazon has a very good price on ED in quarts, especially if you happen to have Amazon Prime. Shipping is a big part of the cost so factor that in. I use very little PG and probably still on my original liter from MFS a year later.
For flavorings, I concentrated on the big TFA thread in the DIY sub forum. I used mainly Bill's Magic Vapor's recipes, which are all high flavor mixes that require little or no steeping. I highly recommend that approach because you get instant gratification and feedback instead waiting weeks for your concoctions to steep.
The way I did my flavorings was mainly sourcing 8ml sample vials from Wizard Labs. I used those sample vials to find the recipes and flavorings I liked. Then I bought my most needed flavors direct from TFA in 4 oz botles. You have to sign up for their bulk flavoring account but it's easy. You can also get TFA 4 oz and other put ups from many other sources but I decided it was probably best and often cheapest to go direct to TFA.
The economics of juice is that unflavored base, bought correctly, will cost you around 1 cent/milliliter. That's 30 cents for a one ounce bottle. In particular nic is cheap now, but it is not likely to stay that way so I would suggest stocking up with a few liters as soon as you are comfortable working with concentrate.
The cost is all in the flavorings. To do a 30% high flavor mix, for example, your cost will go to about 3.5 cents/ml. And that doesn't count inventorying a growing pile of flavors. I spent about $500 rather quickly just accumulating mainly sample bottles of about 100 flavors so you have to be careful unless you are looking for a new moderately expensive hobby
Those 8ml sample bottles from Wizard Labs cost $1.49 each. An ounce of TFA will run you about $4.50 - $5.00. A 4 oz bottle direct from TFA will run $6 - $10 or so. For an extra couple bucks you get 4x the flavoring.
Once you DIY you will never look back. Not only do you save money but you get total control over exactly what you vape and come to understand eJuice in a way you cannot otherwise do. And it takes all the mystery and magic out of it.
PG/VG - Essential Depot brand through Amazon.
They can also be ordered directly from Essential Depot.
Flavoring - Bull City Vapor, EcigExpress
Bottles & Syringes - Amazon or eBay.
Now, the part that can make or break your DIY eliquid.
Not all nic is the same. Brands can be peppery, have throat hit, taste like tobacco or be mostly invisible. I buy Nude Nicotine because I want an invisible nic. They also ship in amber glass bottles which means I can put it directly into the freezer. My second choice would be VapersTek.
Links to the Nicotine Comparison thread below.
Nicotine Comparison thread.
Nicotine Comparisons
Mostly blind comparison which began June 21,2015.
It is in the same thread.
Starts with Post 2475 by Rosssum.
There are discussions of other brands following the Rossum comparison, so read to the end.
Nicotine Comparisons
Nude Nic has a free sample. It costs $2.00 for the postage.
Nicotine Sample Request - Nude Nicotine
To save some money, subscribe to each vendor's email and watch the ECF Deals and Steals.
Deals and Steals
They can also be ordered directly from Essential Depot.
Flavoring - Bull City Vapor, EcigExpress
Bottles & Syringes - Amazon or eBay.
Now, the part that can make or break your DIY eliquid.
Not all nic is the same. Brands can be peppery, have throat hit, taste like tobacco or be mostly invisible. I buy Nude Nicotine because I want an invisible nic. They also ship in amber glass bottles which means I can put it directly into the freezer. My second choice would be VapersTek.
Links to the Nicotine Comparison thread below.
Nicotine Comparison thread.
Nicotine Comparisons
Mostly blind comparison which began June 21,2015.
It is in the same thread.
Starts with Post 2475 by Rosssum.
There are discussions of other brands following the Rossum comparison, so read to the end.
Nicotine Comparisons
Nude Nic has a free sample. It costs $2.00 for the postage.
Nicotine Sample Request - Nude Nicotine
To save some money, subscribe to each vendor's email and watch the ECF Deals and Steals.
Deals and Steals
I've had great experiences with Wizard Labs. I live 30 mins from them so I just drive up to pick up my order, had no idea they were a real lab. My first order I picked up after closing and got taken care of by the owner, he hung out with me for a few minutes and we he gave me a little run down on DIYing since I was just starting out and we talked a bit about aquariums, as he had a nice one in his tank and it's a hobby I share.
They bottle everything very well, and while I've read there are better nicotine I find theirs to be very good. I'll have to venture out and try others, but I enjoy the juices I make with their nic very much and so does a friend I mix for. I also use their VG as it's cheaper for me with pick up at the amounts I use and it seems to be very good, no complaints there either. Bull City Vapors is also talked a lot and I'm going to be placing my first order from them soon.
Good luck and have fun on your DIY journey. Start out with some simple recipes and have patience. If you follow the recipes exactly, you might surprise yourself early.
They bottle everything very well, and while I've read there are better nicotine I find theirs to be very good. I'll have to venture out and try others, but I enjoy the juices I make with their nic very much and so does a friend I mix for. I also use their VG as it's cheaper for me with pick up at the amounts I use and it seems to be very good, no complaints there either. Bull City Vapors is also talked a lot and I'm going to be placing my first order from them soon.
Good luck and have fun on your DIY journey. Start out with some simple recipes and have patience. If you follow the recipes exactly, you might surprise yourself early.
VG, PG, Nicotine from My Freedom Smokes
Flavors from One Stop DIY Shop and Bull City Vapor
A quick, easy flavor to get started with it s OSDIY's Blue Raspberry Slushy. 15% flavor, add nicotine and top with VG. Shake and vape, doesn't need to steep but it does get a lil better after a day or 2. It's a high VG flavoring, so it's great for RDA's.
Flavors from One Stop DIY Shop and Bull City Vapor
A quick, easy flavor to get started with it s OSDIY's Blue Raspberry Slushy. 15% flavor, add nicotine and top with VG. Shake and vape, doesn't need to steep but it does get a lil better after a day or 2. It's a high VG flavoring, so it's great for RDA's.
Here's some information on everything you'll need to know about DIY. How to mix, where to buy, what supplies to have on hand etc....
My blogs will give insight into all aspects of DYI, from steeping to what supplies to have on hand to a basic walk through mixing your first E-juice.
E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs
Then read hoosier's blogs. These blogs concentrate on fine tuning your mix and give insight on additives.
E-Cigarette Forum - Hoosier - Blogs
Then read Boletus's blog's. These blogs concentrate on formulation of nicotine bases regarding proper calculations methods for figuring Nicotine concentration as well as safety.
E-Cigarette Forum - Boletus - Blogs
Then read Ginger's book "E-Cigarettes 102: DIY E-Liquid". It is a book which I've contributed to that delivers an in depth easy to follow guide in the art of DYI.
E-Cigarettes 102: DIY E-Liquid
I recommend viewing VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety and bookmark it for future reference. It explains safety in all aspects of DYI.
VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety
List of suppliers and other useful links courtesy of ECF Member Sir2fyablyNutz
List of suppliers and other useful links | E-Cigarette Forum
then read the stickies at the top of the page.
Reading the above will explain a lot of the how's and why's and help you formulate questions on what you may not understand. Best of luck.
My blogs will give insight into all aspects of DYI, from steeping to what supplies to have on hand to a basic walk through mixing your first E-juice.
E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs
Then read hoosier's blogs. These blogs concentrate on fine tuning your mix and give insight on additives.
E-Cigarette Forum - Hoosier - Blogs
Then read Boletus's blog's. These blogs concentrate on formulation of nicotine bases regarding proper calculations methods for figuring Nicotine concentration as well as safety.
E-Cigarette Forum - Boletus - Blogs
Then read Ginger's book "E-Cigarettes 102: DIY E-Liquid". It is a book which I've contributed to that delivers an in depth easy to follow guide in the art of DYI.
E-Cigarettes 102: DIY E-Liquid
I recommend viewing VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety and bookmark it for future reference. It explains safety in all aspects of DYI.
VPLive Vape Team Episode #82: DIY Safety
List of suppliers and other useful links courtesy of ECF Member Sir2fyablyNutz
List of suppliers and other useful links | E-Cigarette Forum
then read the stickies at the top of the page.
Reading the above will explain a lot of the how's and why's and help you formulate questions on what you may not understand. Best of luck.
My first order was for flavors was from wizard. I also used diy shop, but now have used Bullcity the last couple times. Great prices and fast shipping.
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