DNA 20/30 as Compared To Provari v2.5

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Riverboat:12525616 said:
Well I have 3 Provaris and they will always be my go to devices. Like Slappy above I received my ZNA today and got it to do low ohm dual coil setups that I cannot do with my Provaris. Nothing beats a Provari but it can't do everything which is why I got the ZNA. I like the ZNA because it gives me more flexibility and I refuse to vape unregulated.

I love my Provari but have been running a Kick2 in my SuperT ELA... IMO VW Kick delivers a superior vape. My ZNA is scheduled for delivery today, looking forward to it.....
Well i have a Silver Bullet kicked, but it is not a superior vape, the vape is the same in my opinion with a Provari. They both have flat DC like signals, so I'm not sure how you're telling the difference if you have the same coil and wick setup and are vaping at the same wattage on both devices.
 

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Well i have a Silver Bullet kicked, but it is not a superior vape, the vape is the same in my opinion with a Provari. They both have flat DC like signals, so I'm not sure how you're telling the difference if you have the same coil and wick setup and are vaping at the same wattage on both devices.
I wish I knew.......... I use the same HH357 3.0 ohm atty/set at the same wattage- I check my atty ohms then adjust my Provaris voltage accordingly to give the same wattage... The vapor density is thicker when using my Kicked2/ELA. Maybe the ELA top cap has a better air draw then the Provari ? .......
 
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Riverboat:12526412 said:
Well i have a Silver Bullet kicked, but it is not a superior vape, the vape is the same in my opinion with a Provari. They both have flat DC like signals, so I'm not sure how you're telling the difference if you have the same coil and wick setup and are vaping at the same wattage on both devices.
I wish I knew.......... I use the same HH357 3.0 ohm atty/set at the same wattage- I check my atty ohms then adjust my Provaris voltage accordingly to give the same wattage... The vapor density is thicker when using my Kicked2/ELA. Maybe the ELA top cap has a better air draw then the Provari ? .......
Yeah, if the density is thicker then it is the air draw, I only use toppers that have their own air draw.
 

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I did receive my ZNA...... ZNA/18490---Provari Mini/18350 about the same height..
Provape the ball is in your court......Its time to build a chip that can compete with the DNA30--Its a beast :evil:

Do you find that you need anything over 20 watts? I'm only curious because I have a dna20 on the way.
 

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Do you find that you need anything over 20 watts? I'm only curious because I have a dna20 on the way.

Really do I need the ZNA's 30 watts of power? No way... I have tried it @ 20 watts, super dense/warm vapor but had so much nicotine that my head spun.. 20 watts is more then enough. One thing I can tell you is that the Provari VV chip has longer battery run times than the DNA30 or Kick2 chip when using the same battery size and same wattage setting... Not sure why?
 
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Really do I need the ZNA's 30 watts of power? No way... I have tried it @ 20 watts, super dense/warm vapor but had so much nicotine that my head spun.. Almost made me feel sick... 20 watts is more then enough. One thing I can tell you is that the Provari VV chip has longer battery run times than the DNA30 or Kick2 chip when using the same battery size and same wattage setting... Not sure why?

I have noticed this as well, the ZNA really loves the batteries.
 

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Yesterday by luck I was able to score a ZNA (DNA30 mod) from ElectroNicStix.... Not being able to ramp down voltage is a concern if you are a sub ohm vapor...especially with a fresh battery... Let say a fresh battery under load gives 4 volts/with a 0.8 ohm atomizer that = 20 watts... Good thing I use 2+ ohm atomizer setups.......

Why? What do you think happens when those using mechanical mods, which are by far the most popular for sub ohm vaping, use a 0.8 ohm atomizer? What do you suggest one uses for a 0.8 ohm atty?
 

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Why? What do you think happens when those using mechanical mods, which are by far the most popular for sub ohm vaping, use a 0.8 ohm atomizer? What do you suggest one uses for a 0.8 ohm atty?

Check out the DNA30 specs.... Tell me what you think?
http://www.evolvapor.com/datasheet/dna30.pdf

On closer examination it does work well with sub ohm builds.....
 
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Really do I need the ZNA's 30 watts of power? No way... I have tried it @ 20 watts, super dense/warm vapor but had so much nicotine that my head spun.. 20 watts is more then enough. One thing I can tell you is that the Provari VV chip has longer battery run times than the DNA30 or Kick2 chip when using the same battery size and same wattage setting... Not sure why?


Thanks for the response. I'd switch places with you in a heartbeat, but I'm glad to know that the dna20 should do everything I want it to.

And yes, I'm glad to have my provari as well for longer run-times and general provari awesomeness.
 

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DNA30 chip vs. Provari ? After using my ZNA for a few days I can report-there is no comparison :vapor:
Hey All,
We do have some new technology being developed, its just not perfect yet, but we are working around the clock to make it happen as soon as possible. As soon as its ready we will certainly let everyone know.
Provape you were ahead of the game when you first released the VV chiped Provari..The Provape chip is tried and true, but you have allowed yourself to get behind the eight ball... VW is a superior technology due to the fact that it self adjust to the atty's changing resistance/keeps a true consistence vape.. Don't lose the race, if Evolv can build the bullet proof powerhouse DNA30 VW chip then I know you can too...
Give you loyal Provari fans what they want, something new and exciting.. And don't worry about the price...There have been around 800 ZNA's sold @ $279.00. The demand is huge, as sell out in seconds when they go live.... :2c:

P.S. I am one of Provape's biggest fans and would never bash on them... Provari: The Best VV USA Mod Ever-A true vaping legend.....:)
 
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...if Evolv can build the bullet proof powerhouse DNA30 VW chip then I know you can too...
Not everyone wants to vape at 4.2 v or higher. ECF is not representative of mainstream vaping. Most vapers want a device that will do 3.7 v or a bit higher, have never heard of sub-ohm vaping, rebuildables, or PBusardo.

In short, they are Heretics and must be converted or cleansed...they are normal smokers or ex-smokers.
 

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Not everyone wants to vape at 4.2 v or higher. ECF is not representative of mainstream vaping. Most vapers want a device that will do 3.7 v or a bit higher, have never heard of sub-ohm vaping, rebuildables, or PBusardo.

In short, they are Heretics and must be converted or cleansed...they are normal smokers or ex-smokers.

PoM~ What you said can't be said often enough since so many people act like subΩ'g is the norm; not the exception.

It saddens me when someone clearly intros themselves as *new to vaping* & the first response is from some genius instantly talking about subΩ's, rebuildables & the like.

Sent from a BIG phone.....Galaxy Note 3
 

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Okay so it's here and I'm vaping on it. Hana modz dna 20 mini. It's pretty awesome. It hits at consistently as a provari and seems to have a very quality build. The added plus (in my book) is the fact that I have more flexibility with ohms and power. I'm running a 1 ohm coil a little higher than my mini would be able to.

I won't be getting rid of the provari, though. I still have a lot of love for my mini.
 

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Don't lose the race, if Evolv can build the bullet proof powerhouse DNA30 VW chip then I know you can too...

I don't call a chipset that can't adjust below current battery output voltage as being bullet proof. I vape at 8 watts on a Kayfun. A DNA 20 or 30 would not fire that until the output voltage dropped to 4.0 volts or below.

Even the Kick 2 can regulate voltage below the battery output.

I too don't get the whole "sub ohm" thing. Sub Ohming started as a necessity to raise wattage on a mechanical mod that did not have any regulation. Now it's more like how many watts can I push to a coil.....

I have no desire to belch out some huge mushroom cloud from my mouth. Didn't do it while smoking don't need to do it now. For me it's about flavor. A 2.0 ohm to 2.2 ohm coil in a Kayfun gives me tremendous flavor and adequate cloud. And it sits right in the ProVari's wheel house.

Why would I want to intentionally lower my battery life and intentionally build a sub ohm coil (especially when I don't need to) to put on a regulated mod.

It makes no sense. The whole purpose of a regulated mod was so that we didin't have to build low ohm coils. Now it seems to be the flavor of the month. It's a form of playing Chicken. Just how low can I fire a coil and not have my battery vent.

Thus sub-ohming on a mod, even something like a DNA 20/30 or that ridiculous 75Watt mod coming out (SuperMax) just is dumb in my opinion.

Next thing you'll know we'll have forced air and juice injection so that we can vape at 100 watts without burning the juice.

How many blowers does your atty have....Only 4? WEAK!!!!
 
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I don't call a chipset that can't adjust below current battery output voltage as being bullet proof. I vape at 8 watts on a Kayfun. A DNA 20 or 30 would not fire that until the output voltage dropped to 4.0 volts or below.

Even the Kick 2 can regulate voltage below the battery output.

I too don't get the whole "sub ohm" thing. Sub Ohming started as a necessity to raise wattage on a mechanical mod that did not have any regulation. Now it's more like how many watts can I push to a coil.....

I have no desire to belch out some huge mushroom cloud from my mouth. Didn't do it while smoking don't need to do it know. For me it's about flavor. A 2.0 ohm to 2.2 ohm coil in a Kayfun gives me tremendous flavor and adequate cloud. And it sits right in the ProVari's wheel house.

Why would I want to intentionally lower my battery life and intentionally build a sub ohm coil (especially when I don't need to) to put on a regulated mod.

It makes no sense. The whole purpose of a regulated mod was so that we didin't have to build low ohm coils. Now it seems to be the flavor of the month. It's a form of playing Chicken. Just how low can I fire a coil and not have my battery vent.

Thus sub-ohming on a mod, even something like a DNA 20/30 or that ridiculous 75Watt mod coming out (SuperMax) just is dumb in my opinion.

Next thing you'll know we'll have forced air and juice injection so that we can vape at 100 watts without burning the juice.

How many blowers does your atty have....Only 4? WEAK!!!!
I'm tempted to print this out and frame it. :D
It's not as epic as your scathing tear down of the tobacco settlement relationship with politics, but it's up there.
 

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Oh hh forced air juice induction! Turbo vaping!!! I don't know about injection though. ;)

I fully agree I like to sub ohm on my mechs and find a .7 build to be great, but as I type this my mechs are on the desk in the office and my provari's are withing arms reach, both with a 2.0 ohm coil at 4.9 volts. As far as I am concerned this is my personal nirvana. I am not knocking DNA style mods they have their place, just not in this house as of yet. I'll build my own before I she'll out 280 for one. I would like to see a higher amp limit on the provari so I can stop separating my drippers. I have my mech drippers and provari drippers. I wish they could all play together!
 

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Oh hh forced air juice induction! Turbo vaping!!! I don't know about injection though. ;)

I fully agree I like to sub ohm on my mechs and find a .7 build to be great, but as I type this my mechs are on the desk in the office and my provari's are withing arms reach, both with a 2.0 ohm coil at 4.9 volts. As far as I am concerned this is my personal nirvana. I am not knocking DNA style mods they have their place, just not in this house as of yet. I'll build my own before I she'll out 280 for one. I would like to see a higher amp limit on the provari so I can stop separating my drippers. I have my mech drippers and provari drippers. I wish they could all play together!
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