DNA 200 Watt

[nic_fix]

okay, I did you one better. I suppose my charging issues are over. look and you shall find. in fact I highly suggest anyone that has a serious investment in high end mods look at this. you spent $$$ on your mods so I do not think this is overkill. it is waiting for me at will call and I did not pay anywhere near the price on this site. however it was more than the $11 for the other one and by the looks of it there is no comparison.

4-Port Charging Station for USB Devices - 48W/9.6A

 

[Mactavish]

I use my iPad 2.1 amp charger, 90 minutes from 0-100% full on Vaporshark DNA200. All I need.

 

[tchavei]

Stealthvape has issues at the moment. They scrapped the old Ti wire and their v2 is only 24ga. Bummer.

Didn't know that.

I do use 24 awg exclusively lately so not a big deal for me.

If you want, I can send you some Ti wire. I have 28, 26 and 24. (0.30 0.40 and 0.50 mm)

Regards
Tony

 

[soulseek]

Stealthvapes original 0.4mm Ti is probably the cleanest wire I've ever bought. I clean it with alcohol but never ever see any sign of oil/graphite on the napkin. They later stocked 0.5mm but that was really dirty. They now have a V2 which I've been told should be also very clean. I should be receiving some very soon.

 

[nic_fix]

okay I got it. it is indeed overkill but should certainly solve my charging issues. it has a power supply brick that is huge with a cord going to the wall. the other end has a cord going to the port block which is billet al. not something very portable. I am not sure everyone could really justify the price of this for charging ecig mods. I just wanted to end my problems with $3 chargers so I went in the complete opposite direction finally. not sure anyone needs this but if you want the best I would say this is it. lowest price I saw online was $65. I am not sure how many amps this board can really pull but this will supply it x4. it seems they can make anything overkill. there is probably an application for this but not really our mods. it shall suffice!

edit: guys, this is the real deal as it turns out. if you want the finest charger made I will recommend this one. linked above. I appreciate everyone that helped me in this matter. I am sure the $11 charger mentioned shall also suffice. buying $3 chargers is apparently a nono. killed four mods.

 

[Aal_]

Didn't know that.

I do use 24 awg exclusively lately so not a big deal for me.

If you want, I can send you some Ti wire. I have 28, 26 and 24. (0.30 0.40 and 0.50 mm)

Regards
Tony

Hey Tony thanks for the offer. I'm actually not in a great hurry, but the nickel is tasting like chiite although it was from stealthvape. I started tc recently, I think nickel is not my type of wire especially with unflavored.

I have titanium that I bought long time ago from FT but it is dirty as heck. I will wait for stealthvape.

 

[Tpat591]

I have titanium that I bought long time ago from FT but it is dirty as heck. I will wait for stealthvape.

Just wipe the ti wire down with a cotton ball soaked in ISP Alcohol and that FT wire will clean up just fine.

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

Question - the reverse battery protection in DNA200s - should this be preventing a blown fuse? My DNA200 has blown 2 fuses so far. While the customer service from my particular vendor has been amazing, they have stood behind the product and placed a new board in it both times (think it was more than the fuse though), I am trying to figure out why the this is going on in the dual 18650 DNA but not my Opus with a LiPo. The second time around I KNOW I did not put the batteries in backwards (while it was possible the first time), but placing in fresh batteries is when it seems the fuse went (complete with burning smell requiring the whole board to be replaced). Wondering if this is a problem with the 18650 DNA devices - I am guessing it is not and I just have bad luck. As an added note, I know the batteries are charged no more than 4.2 volts both times and both are in good shape.

 

[Tpat591]

Fuse is the reverse battery protection on dna 200 I believe.

 

[nic_fix]

guys this is sort off topic but I am wondering something. my triton ni200 coils are only lasting a few days or 300 puffs of about 1.5 seconds. they lasted much longer on other devices. on the dna200 boxes I prefer 55w,500f,100,8.5 is it just this amount of power that is killing them? that does not seem like a lot of power to me. I was able to use sxm at much less power but it is underrated.

I do not see how a standard fuse can be reverse battery protection. it must be some diode on there and would not open. it would just not work. I could be wrong.
also I doubt it blows before like 4.5v. over current is most likely a choke and not a fuse either. could be wrong again. I am thinking this because a fuse that would not open until over 40 amps could probably not fit on the board. someone that has seen the board could say better than me. I am just guessing. I have not messed with electronics since the 80's! I did just get a wonderful scope even though I am unable to use it. my great grandson can.

 

[Darkly spectr]

yeah I don't think the DNA 200 technically has reverse battery protection(hence why the reuleaux has those rings around the connectors). I guess you could TECHNICALLY say that the fuse is a protection because it prevents the other parts from frying but honestly a "reverse battery" protection that makes the device unusable isn't any form of protection to me.

but yeah sometimes the fuse blows up for no reason. that is the problem with the fuse it's only 2 amps above the max amp limit.(23 vs 25) so if your fuse is not the best quality(which happens often since these things are super mass produced) it might just blow because it turned out to be like only a 20 amp fuse. I remember brandon I think talking about how the fuse was a mistake and that they should of used a higher specced fuse

 

[nic_fix]

I did not know it was 23a. I figured this thing could pull 40a. shows what I know. I am not sure how a fuse could protect against reverse polarity though. probably why the wismec does have those rings. I really think the dna200 was designed for a lipo pack but I do much prefer 18650. I think evolve just kind of gave in because people really wanted 18650. they did not intend for it. if you use a lipo you should have none of these issues. well, assuming you set the wh right.

 

[retird]

From the DNA200 data sheet:

Fuse
Because of the energy and power stored in the battery, the DNA 200 includes an onboard 25 amp SMT fuse. The fuse is located on the underside of the PCB near the B+ battery terminal, and is labelled “Fuse” In normal operation the fuse should never blow. However, in the event of an error or short circuit on the board, the fuse will protect the battery. Should it need to be replaced, the fuse is manufactured by Schurter , part number 3413.0332.22 Replacement is accomplished by de-soldering the blown fuse from the board and soldering on a new fuse.

DNA 200 is designed for battery packs that are permanently installed into the device, or battery packs that install using an insulated, polarized connector rated for at least 25 amps. If the battery pack is installed with the polarity reversed, the fuse will blow to protect the battery pack, board and user. If you are manufacturing a device that is designed to be used with three individual replaceable 18650 cells, an accessory board is available from Evolv to adapt from three individual cells to a pack and tap connector pinout, as well as provide cell-by-cell protection against incorrectly installed or reversed cells.

 

[Darkly spectr]

I did not know it was 23a. I figured this thing could pull 40a. shows what I know. I am not sure how a fuse could protect against reverse polarity though. probably why the wismec does have those rings. I really think the dna200 was designed for a lipo pack but I do much prefer 18650. I think evolve just kind of gave in because people really wanted 18650. they did not intend for it. if you use a lipo you should have none of these issues. well, assuming you set the wh right.

the DNA 200 pulls 23 amps out of the batteries but it boosts it up to 50 amps(and a short boost of 55 amps)

the DNA 200 can push 50 amps but the difference with say a IPV3 LI(which pulls 40 amps out of batteries) is that it only uses 23 amps so you are fine with 20 amp 18650s

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

Fuse is the reverse battery protection on dna 200 I believe.

Okay - thank you. Thinking about getting a Wismec Realeaux if I go for another 18650 DNA device for that mechanical battery protection. At the same time, I have become quite fond of the LiPo battery in the Opus and am considering the Lavabox, a DX200, or even a Vaporshark instead because of my experience with 18650s and the DNA200. Interesting how I can put my batteries in my IPV4 completely wrong and the only thing that happens is it won't turn on. I guess that goes to show that the DNA was really manufactured for the LiPos. Maybe I'll just USB charge my 18650s from now on.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Are you using flat top batteries? I thought the plastic ridges would take care of someone putting their batteries in the wrong way as long as they were using flat tops.

Cheers,
Steve

Edit. I have both the Lavabox and DX200. I really like the Lavabox. It for whatever reason feels better in hand plug imo looks better as well.

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

For what it's worth, they are VTC5s. The first time around I also was using HE2s.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Okay - thank you. Thinking about getting a Wismec Realeaux if I go for another 18650 DNA device for that mechanical battery protection. At the same time, I have become quite fond of the LiPo battery in the Opus and am considering the Lavabox, a DX200, or even a Vaporshark instead because of my experience with 18650s and the DNA200. Interesting how I can put my batteries in my IPV4 completely wrong and the only thing that happens is it won't turn on. I guess that goes to show that the DNA was really manufactured for the LiPos. Maybe I'll just USB charge my 18650s from now on.

The past few days the integrated charger on the DNA 200 has come in really handy. I'm visiting the in laws and have a lost vape effusion and a dual 18650 DIY with me. One is always charging on a USB brick while I have the other in my pocket wherever I go. Didn't need to pack an 18650 charger or extra batteries. For a realeaux, it would be a challenge to drain the three 18650s in a day. Just put it on charge when you sleep and you'll never need to remove the batteries until they need to be replaced.

 

[nic_fix]

I just wanted to mention. the effusion seems hollow where the hana seems solid. both nice. just an observation. I know this is off the current topic but I was just thinking about this. I am fine with lipo's. since I have multiple boxes now. when one is exhausted three more are ready. if you want that charger I can say it is crazy quality. the price is equally crazy but commensurate with the quality. I did get the wismec but really prefer the lipo boxes.

I did not know a fuse prevents a reverse polarity failure. learn something every day. it is interesting it says it is for a permanently installed battery. I wonder if companies such as wismec are at odds with evolve.

 

[Aal_]

Didn't the dna40 have a reverse battery protection but stayed usable? I think they changed the design in the 200. Not sure why they would remove a feature. I'm sure they had a good reason.