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BrentMydland

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That's about how long it takes to set your juice on fire. I'm sure it can sustain 200 watts for longer.


3 in series only


yes, also remember it has to be in series. It won't work with 3 18650s in parallel.

So one or 2 70 amp 26650 wont work?

Also it says not to do more than 1s bursts at high wattage and it sounds like its for safety reasons not beacuse it will catch your juice on fire. I know a few people who regularly vape above 200w and their juice doesnt catch fire or anything. Just a little bit confused about that part. I dont understand having a high wattage mod that you can only fire for 1s before bad things happen.

And what constitutes high wattage? Are we talking over 100, over 150 or what. You would think if they were just talking about at 200 they would say at 200 and not at high wattage.
 

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Did anyone else watch the Plumes of Hazard YT vid showing a freshly juiced mod catch fire at a little over 1 second at 200 watts (Just the juice caught on fire, not the mod). This is probably the first mod on the market that can deliver a real 200watts instantly to a coil. I can't see ever doing that myself, but I really like seeing a chip that delivers what it promises. Scary good.
 
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*** really :eek:
Really. If you have a 3s 800mAh battery it only has 800 milli amp hours, but each milliamp is at 12 volts instead of 4 volts. The total power available for vaping is 3 times as great because of the higher voltage. You really need to think of milli Watt hours. That is the total power available. So, a 3s 800mAh battery has about the same total power as a 2400 mAh 18650.
We are ignoring converter inefficiencies and cell chemistries.
 

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Really. If you have a 3s 800mAh battery it only has 800 milli amp hours, but each milliamp is at 12 volts instead of 4 volts. The total power available for vaping is 3 times as great because of the higher voltage. You really need to think of milli Watt hours. That is the total power available. So, a 3s 800mAh battery has about the same total power as a 2400 mAh 18650.
We are ignoring converter inefficiencies and cell chemistries.

I think the converter loss (inefficiency) can be pretty much ignored because it would be the same for either the 18650 or the 3s LiPo (just consider it a constant of the board), but the cell chemistry would certainly favor the LiPo since there would be a greater voltage sag with the 18650. So the Lion would not deliver as much usable power. The other advantage that LiPos have is a much faster charge rate. I can safely charge a 5000Mah 6cell pack that is at 25% capacity at 3c in 22minutes safely. The cells are rated for a 5c charge level, so 3c is not pushing the charge rate at all. The batteries don't even get warm during a charge cycle.
 

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mah isnt different from 18650s to lipos right? the way I vape I go through 3 fully charged VTC4 (2100mah) a day, 40watt vaping. This is about 10ml a day.

mAh is dependent on the C-rate, which is based on how long a battery runs at a continuous discharge. For example, if a battery runs for 1 hour at 2000mA, it has a 2000 mAh capacity. The C-Rate is calculated as by dividing one hour by the time the battery lasted. Thus, for the example above, the C-rate is 1 C. If that same battery lasted for 30 minutes at 3500 mA, we would say that it has 1750 mAh at a C-rate of 2 C.

The reason I bring up C-rate is because that's how battery specs are read. They will give you a nominal capacity (mAh) at a nominal discharge rate (which is a particular C-rate). For example, quite a few high-current 18650s give their advertised (nominal capacity in mAh) at around 0.2 C (usually somewhere around 500 mA).

This should not be confused with the C-rating. That is a different measurement, which is what is the max draw one can do given the advertised capacity. For example, a C-rating of 10 C on a battery with a nominal capacity of 2500 mAh can support up to 25 A. However, the battery will not support a C-rating of 10 C at 2500 mAh. Rather, because a battery's capacity declines as current draw increases, it would probably be about 85% of the nominal capacity on a high-drain battery. It's confusing terminology, but the key thing to understand is that C-Rate and C-rating have nothing to do with each other.

So, when comparing batteries, mAh doesn't always mean the same thing. For example, two batteries may have the same mAh, but they are defined at different C-rates. Thus, the battery with the lower C-rate would actually perform worse (in terms of mAh) at the higher C-rate of the other battery. Sometimes specs give capacities for more than one C-rate, but often they do not. So if you're trying to compare two different batteries, sometimes you actually need to do some testing to see how they actually perform (or find someone who has published it).
 

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retird, do you have any idea if the kits that Evolv will be offering will come in both with-chip and without-chip packages?

I ask, because I was about to place a pre-order on protovapor for the 200, but if the kit will only be offered with a chip, I don't want to end up with one case and two dna boards. Thanks.

I don't have info on kit contents options (packages)...
 

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Is protovapor the only place offering pre order for the diy board? They want way too much to ship to Canada

Don't know who all has pre-orders..... Evolv has traditionally offered shipping to Canada for a buck fifty when bought from them.... note they have not been released yet....
 
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