DNA 200 Watt

[dr g]

Curious. Do you an image of the build or other information? I can't get to anything buildable with steam engine with 22 gauge nickel unless it has carrier strand of some sort.

What assumptions are you making in the build?

 

[BlueridgeDog]

Steam Engine, 22 gauge = 170mm to .05. So the assumption is that 170 mm or more wire is being used, or there is a carrier wire. love to see the build you are talking about.

 

[Vooper]

What assumptions are you making in the build?

You could save yourself from making 50 posts on the subject by just showing the build.

 

[AtmizrOpin]

Emailed avidvapor.com yesterday.


We have the boards in stock, we will be accepting orders as soon as Evolv allows us, we do not do pre-orders or pre-payments. As of now the tentative release date is Monday 6-29-2015

Thank you

Regards

Jessica
CS Rep

Avid Industries Inc
PO Box 10843
Westbury, NY 11590

 

[tbrown4g63]

You could save yourself from making 50 posts on the subject by just showing the build.

I think he just wants the person to post all the variables that he had assumed, being the only thing he was told was 22g nickel so he can turn around and tell them they are wrong.

 

[Eric Auer]

You could save yourself from making 50 posts on the subject by just showing the build.

But that would interfere with his post count.

It's not easy to stay "relevant"

Eric

 

[Yozhik]

Max input of the DNA200 is 23a. Output is 55a.

As I noted, when you use three cells, one can reduce the required current draw from the battery.

Which leaves you zero margin of safety. Actually, less than zero at 3.0V per cell under load. Western engineers do not design consumer products that way.

Also, go ahead and pull 30A continuous from a VTC5 and let us know if you can still hold it in your hand after a minute or so.

(a) The battery can operate at 30A for a short period of time before hitting 3 V per cell. It can operate for a substantially longer period of time if operating at around 23A if used in a 3 cell configuration.

(b) batteries in vaping are not operated at continuous 30A. Also, if you operated a 2s LiPo of similar capacity at continuous discharge, you wouldn't want to hold it in your hand either.

(c) "Asmodus is an American vapor company manufacturing and distributing here in Los Angeles, California." They make the Snow Wolf 200, so apparently Western engineers do design consumer products that way.

 

[Mad Scientist]

One thing we can all agree on: P = E I (yeah, the old school way, E is volts lol). You can get 200 watts at 200 volts with 1 Amp or at 1 volt with 200 Amps, or anything in between -- the atty won't care; the batteries will.

 

[Rossum]

(b) Batteries in vaping are not operated at continuous 30A.

Well maybe I'm old-school, but I sure as heck wouldn't design a consumer product that required batteries to operate above their continuous rating, no would I do anything kludgy like "pulse firing" in order to be able to make a dubious "200W" claim.

Also, if you operated a 2s LiPo of similar capacity at continuous discharge, you wouldn't want to hold it in your hand either.

Sure, but you can get LiPos with much higher continuous ratings. And of course, Evolv doesn't use a 2S LiPo.

(c) "Asmodus is an American vapor company manufacturing and distributing here in Los Angeles, California." They make the Snow Wolf 200, so apparently Western engineers do design consumer products that way.

How is Asmodus relevant here? Are they claiming to have designed the Snow Wolf 200? Are you sure it wasn't Shenzhen Laisimo Technology Co., Ltd?

 

[vaperXant]

Well maybe I'm old-school, but I sure as heck wouldn't design a consumer product that required batteries to operate above their continuous rating, no would I do anything kludgy like "pulse firing" in order to be able to make a dubious "200W" claim.


Sure, but you can get LiPos with much higher continuous ratings. And of course, Evolv doesn't use a 2S LiPo.


How is Asmodus relevant here? Are they claiming to have designed the Snow Wolf 200? Are you sure it wasn't Shenzhen Laisimo Technology Co., Ltd?

Yes they claim to have designed it, upon further research, they did NOT. waideacig claims they did, as well as several shell companies in china. On Asmodus websites, they claim they have designed it, or at least they did about a week ago

 

[Yozhik]

Yes they claim to have designed it, upon further research, they did NOT. waideacig claims they did, as well as several shell companies in china. On Asmodus websites, they claim they have designed it, or at least they did about a week ago

Waidea is a well known purveyor of fake clones. For example, they make a 1:1 clone of the Vaporflask that even claims on it that it was "Made in U.S.A.".

 

[windxrunner]

So yeah, I've been looking into LiPo packs and this one could easily fit in a G box, or really almost anything: Turnigy nano-tech 950mah 3S 25~50C Lipo Pack

 

[BrentMydland]

According to mod crate on reddit they have them in stock and the chip will start shipping out to customers at midnight tomorrow.

 

[TKS]

According to mod crate on reddit they have them in stock and the chip will start shipping out to customers at midnight tomorrow.

Is it customary for actual chips to start hitting the market before an exclusive device is presented for the masses as a proof of concept? Or are we going to rely on DIY'ers to get ourselves killed >_>

This is going to be VERY interesting in the coming weeks.

 

[VapingBad]

Curious. Do you an image of the build or other information? I can't get to anything buildable with steam engine with 22 gauge nickel unless it has carrier strand of some sort.

I recommend much thinner gauge twisted, I like 34 AWG 2 strand twisted myself 6-7 wraps dual 3 mm coils.

 

[BNEAT]

Evolv DNA200 - Cloud 9 Vaping

Boom

 

[VapingBad]

Evolv DNA200 - Cloud 9 Vaping

Boom

That's what I thought but blaky on AAE-C just pointed out
Cloud 9 do this, they don't post on saturday and the last post is done today so they won't be posting them out till mondays post.
That's how they get around release dates and secure sales

 

[VapingBad]

Update on Cloud9 website
TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED FROM SALE
We were informed by Evolv AFTER placing these boards on sale, that they all require a firmware upgrade before they can be sold, and they have not provided us with the firmware upgrade instructions yet. Please subscribe to the Evolv newsletter to receive further updates when they are available.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

y'all beat me to it..

this is useful though

http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/WebRo.../A2E1/AEAC/58D0/C971/B129/Evolv_DNA200_V1.pdf

 

[Sptz]

y'all beat me to it..

this is useful though

http://www.cloud9vaping.co.uk/WebRo.../A2E1/AEAC/58D0/C971/B129/Evolv_DNA200_V1.pdf

SX350J has 9.5V of max output voltage... wat?