DNA 200 Watt

[druckle]

Yeah, that was so not the point of his post.... You can over heat liquid on a provari beyond safe levels.... But he claims it pointless to discuss safe liquid temps based on this mod going to 200 watts....as if no build could ever produce safe temps at that wattage.... This is just not true, and another snipe attempt among many in this thread.
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

Ok...you seem to be aware of what goes on in his mind. I don't have those powers. I just saw a warning about misusing a device. It was pretty clearly stated I think that some folks might use 200 watts without temperature control. That seems like a good warning to me.

For me vaping isn't a religion and we don't have high priests sentencing us to be burnt at the stake for heresy as in the inquisition. At least I hope we don't.

Duane

 

[USMCotaku]

Ok...you seem to be aware of what goes on in his mind. I don't have those powers. I just saw a warning about misusing a device. It was pretty clearly stated I think that some folks might use 200 watts without temperature control. That seems like a good warning to me.

For me vaping isn't a religion and we don't have high priests sentencing us to be burnt at the stake for heresy as in the inquisition. At least I hope we don't.

Duane

Well, when we are doing just that very thing (topic was finding out safe temps for various liquids) and he chimes in with how that is pointless....he didn't leave himself very much wiggle room on how that post should be interpreted. Defend him all you want, it was a thoughtless post, negative from beginning to end... Like many here from people who have no real interest in this board. So you tell me, since you seem inclined to defend his post.... When is it EVER pointless to discuss safe vaping temps?

 

[jazzvaper]

http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:0::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:2100921

Love it when facts [Trump] speculation, debate, (unfounded) rumor, and mystery.

More of that, pub-leeese. Thanx!!

 

[KTMRider]

Weights and measures may be useful to some as I had difficulty finding these out beforehand.

Size: 3-5/8 x 2-1/8(2-1/4 inc fins) x 7/8

Weight: 6.9 oz (same as my rDNA with battery)

Pic with rDNA:

Since charged and vaped my SQRs. Very smooth.

Now to plug it in and make sure I have the latest firmware. With all those settings I may be gone some time!

Nice comparison shot. I'm kinda glad I didn't get it now . Still a bit jealous

I am assuming the answer is no and I think that it has been noted elsewhere in this thread but:

Are there any internet vendors that still have the Opus in stock? I had a chance to order a black Opus from House of Vapor but decided to think about it first for one night. Next day it was sold it.

Is the Opus battery detachable/replaceable?

How is working with the software to change/personalize settings?

Finally, I am really surprised at the size. I was just comparing my IPV4 to an rDNA40 today and was shocked at how small the DNA40 is and that comparison is a great shot so thank you for that (I realize people are probably going to say my size standards are a bit low, but still).

I found the link to HoV when I went back to look on the Opus site and they had a link. I don't know if anyone else sells them but a quick e-mail to Opus would be your best bet if you're serious about buying one.

The battery is not replaceable and will void your warranty if you open the case.

The VS DNA200 should be a few mm's bigger than the rDNA40. That's the one I'm waiting for and the reason I didn't order an Opus when I found the link. Also the reason I shared the link .

Does IPVx owners have any size standards?

Negative posts? What on earth do you mean? All I saw was a post warning that any device could be misused. I don' t think that's negative.

Duane

If it was from anyone else, probably not but from SS, it's expected and implied. That's all he posts.

 

[soulseek]

The recent study by Dr. Farsalinos showed that while aldehydes are present in high amounts in a dry hit, they're also certainly present even under regular vaping conditions, just at much lower concentrations.

If you look at the cumulative releases of mods you'll see that the average power of these devices is constantly on a rise. People are building setups capable of burning through more liquid, which means larger exposure to aldehydes. If all this is happening in a powerful VW device that doesn't regulate temperature, you're increasing chances to harmful exposure. Personally, I'm letting all my friends know that they should be more cautious until we know more.

 

[druckle]

There are some really active threads on ECF where folks with a wide range of different technical expertise are actively working together to advance the development of safer more satisfying vaping at both high power and low power. Safer vaping temperature and processes are actively being sought every day. The neat thing is that folks with different points of view are all participating and working together toward a common goal and there is no discrimination or judgement other than the ultimate final results.

 

[alistairs]

I am assuming the answer is no and I think that it has been noted elsewhere in this thread but:

Are there any internet vendors that still have the Opus in stock? I had a chance to order a black Opus from House of Vapor but decided to think about it first for one night. Next day it was sold it.

Is the Opus battery detachable/replaceable?

How is working with the software to change/personalize settings?

Finally, I am really surprised at the size. I was just comparing my IPV4 to an rDNA40 today and was shocked at how small the DNA40 is and that comparison is a great shot so thank you for that (I realize people are probably going to say my size standards are a bit low, but still).

I don't know of anyone with stock currently, and don't know when Opus will make more. There should be other devices out in the coming weeks. Don't be fooled by the negative banter in this thread, any DNA200 device will be hugely popular and keep selling out until they are more widely available.

The Opus battery is a fixed Lipo, it is not user serviceable. It's roughly equivalent to a 3000mah 18650 type.

The software is very easy to use though the number of settings is a bit intimidating at first. I just downloaded it and installed it, nothing extra, no weird device drivers or anything. It automatically found my device when I plugged it in. It prompted me to update the software and prompted me to update the firmware. I changed a few things on the screen and set up a couple of profiles, upload to device and your done.

I also tried the Atomizer Analyser to check my atty was stable. Everything very easy and worked first time. Of course you can change so many things I'm sure its possible to screw up too!

Sizewise it is a little bigger than I would have liked. Vaporshark (who make the rDNA) are expected to release their DNA200 device in the few weeks. I expect them to set the standard for small size again, I was waiting for them, but I passed on the initial Opus order because I though the Shark was imminent, but then it didn't release so when HOV got some Opus, I went for it.

 

[retird]

There are some really active threads on ECF where folks with a wide range of different technical expertise are actively working together to advance the development of safer more satisfying vaping at both high power and low power. Safer vaping temperature and processes are actively being sought every day. The neat thing is that folks with different points of view are all participating and working together toward a common goal and there is no discrimination or judgement other than the ultimate final results.

That's a good thing.... you might just list a few links for those interested....

 

[alistairs]

Nice comparison shot. I'm kinda glad I didn't get it now . Still a bit jealous

It's your fault I had to buy it. Damn enabler.

 

[USMCotaku]

The deception of measuring formaldehyde in e-cigarette aerosol: the difference between laboratory measurements and true exposure
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[KTMRider]

It's your fault I had to buy it. Damn enabler.

I think they sold out because I posted the link. Opus was sold out direct for over a week.

 

[druckle]

That's a good thing.... you might just list a few links for those interested....

Here are a couple that are contributing significantly to better vaping IMO. I'm sure there are others but ECF is so all encompassing that it's difficult to keep up with everything.


TC beyond Ni200: Nickel Purity, Dicodes; Ti, SS, Resistherm NiFe30; Coefficient of Resistance | E-Cigarette Forum

Titanium wire, vaping and safety | E-Cigarette Forum

Everyone who would like to contribute their knowledge is welcome in these threads I'm sure. There will likely be criticism of ideas because that's the way scientific knowledge is gained but I've not yet seen criticism of a person because his ideas are not popular.

Duane

 

[USMCotaku]

I'm all for discussion of ideas, and their merits or detriments of safety....won't hear me calling it pointless
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[vapealone]

TCR | Steam Engine | free vaping calculators

BTW:
TI's (in general and GR1 in particular) have a TCR=Δρ/(ρ(Ref)*ΔT)=(TFR-1)/ΔT curve in our temp range pretty damn close to linear. (edit: ΔT in °C or°K. °F needs factoring as per below)
And not only linear but pretty damned close to horizontal too. Which means picking a single TCR within the range can be easily good enough for vaping
Eg 0.0035 will probably do and you can make your csv as:

TFR(T[°C])=(0.0035*(T[°C]-20°C))+1 (for 20°C as room temp reference, where TFR=1)

or if you need to use 70°F as a reference:

TFR(T[°F])=(0.0035*5/9*(T[°F]-70°F)+1

and you can make CSV with plenty of rows for yourself just list as T,TFR

PS: Aparently Steam-Engines formula uses(or gives) ~0.003486442 static TCR for the whole range at least in °F mode). I believe that it doesn't hold for the whole displayed range but good enough for the limited part of the temp range we actually use.

 

[USMCotaku]

I've gone cross eyed
Sent with one hand, the other is busy vaping.

 

[druckle]

BTW:
TI's (in general and GR1 in particular) have a TCR=Δρ/(ρ(Ref)*ΔT)=(TFR-1)/ΔT curve in our temp range pretty damn close to linear.
And not only linear but pretty damned close to horizontal too. Which means picking a single TCR within the range can be easily good enough for vaping
Eg 0.0035 will probably do and you can make your csv as:

TFR(T[°C])=(0.0035*(T[°C]-20°C))+1 (for 20°C as room temp reference, where TFR=1)

or if you need to use 70°F as a reference:

TFR(T[°F])=(0.0035*5/9*(T[°F]-70°F)+1

and you can make CSV with plenty of rows for yourself just list as T,TFR

PS: Aparently Steam-Engines formula uses(or gives) ~0.003486442 static TCR for the whole range at least in °F mode). I believe that it doesn't hold for the whole displayed range but good enough for the limited part of the temp range we actually use.

Why do I have the feeling that the titanium wire industry is about to explode based on vaping demand? (outside of the fact that data like these and the very satisfying vape the stuff provides is about as good as it gets as of today)


Duane

 

[vapealone]

Why do I have the feeling that the titanium wire industry is about to explode based on vaping demand? (outside of the fact that data like these and the very satisfying vape the stuff provides is about as good as it gets as of today)


Duane

Should I try to buy some shares?

 

[druckle]

Should I try to buy some shares?

Shares in the metals markets? Nah....don't think so. That's part of why I live like I do. I didn't learn the right lessons till too late in life.

Duane

 

[tchavei]

BTW:
TI's (in general and GR1 in particular) have a TCR=Δρ/(ρ(Ref)*ΔT)=(TFR-1)/ΔT curve in our temp range pretty damn close to linear. (edit: ΔT in °C or°K. °F needs factoring as per below)
And not only linear but pretty damned close to horizontal too. Which means picking a single TCR within the range can be easily good enough for vaping
Eg 0.0035 will probably do and you can make your csv as:

TFR(T[°C])=(0.0035*(T[°C]-20°C))+1 (for 20°C as room temp reference, where TFR=1)

or if you need to use 70°F as a reference:

TFR(T[°F])=(0.0035*5/9*(T[°F]-70°F)+1

and you can make CSV with plenty of rows for yourself just list as T,TFR

PS: Aparently Steam-Engines formula uses(or gives) ~0.003486442 static TCR for the whole range at least in °F mode). I believe that it doesn't hold for the whole displayed range but good enough for the limited part of the temp range we actually use.

Steam engine does all calcs in Celsius in the background and only converts the output to F if requested.

Regards
Tony

Sent from my keyboard through my phone or something like that.

 

[vapealone]

Steam engine does all calcs in Celsius in the background and only converts the output to F if requested.

Regards
Tony

Sent from my keyboard through my phone or something like that.

Me too

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