DNA 200 Watt

[dwcraig1]

What problems? I have a LavaBox DNA200 and just ordered a VaporShark DNA200, have not had a single issue, best vape I've had.

I have 3, the only problem I've had was I got juice between the balance connector and the board (my doing) and it would drain one cell down slightly if it sat unused. I cleaned that so all is OK now.
I wanted to say that I've had no problems either but felt that I needed to mention that.
Most problems seem to be user/builder created from what I'm to understand.

 

[2legsshrt]

I have 3, the only problem I've had was I got juice between the balance connector and the board (my doing) and it would drain one cell down slightly if it sat unused. I cleaned that so all is OK now.
I wanted to say that I've had no problems either but felt that I needed to mention that.
Most problems seem to be user/builder created from what I'm to understand.

Yep that is kinda what I am getting from reading things also but they are complex, I just went through about half of the interactive escribe software course.

 

[2legsshrt]

I would like to have a Reuleaux just to play with. I'm so tempted to order it it is driving me crazy. The DNA uses PWM just like the SX right?

 

[dwcraig1]

I would like to have a Reuleaux just to play with. I'm so tempted to order it it is driving me crazy. The DNA uses PWM just like the SX right?

no, DNA boards use direct DC-DC conversion

 

[papa11]

i purchased 2, one from vaporlips, that i will get maybe by christmas, if im lucky, the other from cloudmaker, that will be in my hands by christmas as well...maybe, but its ok i dont mind the wait, it gives me time to learn more about the board, ive never had a dna device before. i have watched many videos, i watched pbusardo's comparison video and it was very informative, the one thing that i see unless im missing something is they are all the same, except the box, the buttons. and the battery...so i got 2 with bigger batteries, and with buttons that i like, and in boxes that look good but thats just my opinion. i need to learn about nickle, and titanium wire, and how to make those coils..and from what i know of myself i will get inpatient and buy another lol, id love a hobo but they are hard to get and they are runnin 900 mah batteries...and 900 might be fine for me i really wont know until i own one for a bit.i like the idea of being able to charge and vape at the same time that will be great for me, my couch has a built in usb, and my truck does as well..funny i dont really care about 200 watts, but i do want something that i can enjoy my vape on, i have been using a hexohm v2 for almost a year, and i have no problems except when my batteries run low...i know i love vaping, i have no intention of ever quitting, i quit smoking, and i missed it until i found vaping a year and a half ago, im buying a couple of new devices now because the state i live in, washington, my either make it very hard to get vape merchandise or tax the heck out of it, or ban it altogether....yet cigarettes remain legal???..ok ill stop that now...anyway what im getting at is i love the new technology, the new products, i made myself a promise to not buy anything new for a year, well the year is up!!!! now if i can find an authentic velocity rda id be happy

 

[Vlad1]

I would like to have a Reuleaux just to play with. I'm so tempted to order it it is driving me crazy. The DNA uses PWM just like the SX right?

I'd wait if I were you 2legs. Here's a review of the Reuleaux, he talks about some things to seriously consider prior to purchasing a DNA200.

19:15 into the video

 

[retird]

Probably good to know that electronics can fail for numerous reasons. Mass production boards/devices can have a small percentage of faulty boards/devices being sent into the wild.. This can be seen with virtually anybody's boards/devices. Having a great warranty is important, I think, should a board/device stop working. One only needs to google a bit to see what I mean about board/device failures. I googled "auto fire e-cig" and here is but two video's.

Auto fire, board related....


Auto fire, button related....

 

[tehdarkaura]

I have three mods dna200 mods I built and haven't had any trouble with any of them -- and don't forget we are dealing with evolv here -- even if you break the board and admit that they still are willing to stand behind the product for you. For example I ripped off a cap while replacing the buttons with the C&K dome types nd I asked them for the value of the cap so I could fix what I broke but instead they replaced the board for me.
the evolv dna200 chips have zero problems I have seen -- the problems mentioned above are due to problems the manufacturer caused.... and even then evolv will help you when the manufacturer will not....

I had my share of issues with the dna40 -- but all those issues have been resolved now and the fact that we can upgrade the firmware is a huge step forward -- evolv has released dozens of new features requested by their customers -- its not like Yihi who only does 1 firmware release for a device and then abandons it forever so they can get better sales on the next boards they release.

I will say that even when building the mod yourself its important to not cheap out on the 510 and to carefully place the screen ribbon away from any moving parts -- which is what a couple manufacturers didn't do and has caused problems...

 

[HolmanGT]

I'd wait if I were you 2legs. Here's a review of the Reuleaux, he talks about some things to seriously consider prior to purchasing a DNA200.

19:15 into the video

Vlad1,

My VTbox200 died after about a month of use. I contacted Evolv and told them that I had purchased it thru GearBest and to return it thru them would be a nightmare. Steve, at Evolv Support said send it to them and if it is the board that failed they would put a new one in (no charge) and get it back to me ASAP.

Fagan, makes it sound like some kind of living He!! to deal with a unit failures and If you attempt to do it thru a Chinese vendor he may not be that far off. That said Evolv has replace/repaired two units for me "lickied Split". One had an intermittent fire button and the second just went belly up.

I too watch "Fagan" reviews and like the fact that if something is not right with a unit he doesn't hesitate to call it out. That said he is inclined to go a little overboard when he tells people "Not to buy". As I remember Fagan got himself in a little trouble doing that "absolutely don't buy this" with another Mod he reviewed awhile back.

 

[Vlad1]

Vlad1,

My VTbox200 died after about a month of use. I contacted Evolv and told them that I had purchased it thru GearBest and to return it thru them would be a nightmare. Steve, at Evolv Support said send it to them and if it is the board that failed they would put a new one in (no charge) and get it back to me ASAP.

Fagan, makes it sound like some kind of living He!! to deal with a unit failures and If you attempt to do it thru a Chinese vendor he may not be that far off. That said Evolv has replace/repaired two units for me "lickied Split". One had an intermittent fire button and the second just went belly up.

I too watch "Fagan" reviews and like the fact that if something is not right with a unit he doesn't hesitate to call it out. That said he is inclined to go a little overboard when he tells people "Not to buy". As I remember Fagan got himself in a little trouble doing that "absolutely don't buy this" with another Mod he reviewed awhile back.

Not everyone has received the same personal attention that you have. Some have been directed back to their vendor by Evolv, some of those vendors have told their customer the device/board was out of stock. I'm currently going on 2 1/2 months with a open ticket to a China vendor for an over discharged battery pack courtesy of a bad firmware build. So for me it has been a PITA for a very long time trying to get it taken care of.

But I don't think he was complaining any about warranty from Evolv just that it appears to be a trend with the boards just dying as he compared it to the problems of the DNA 40 and if one had to go through the RMA process it could be a big problem if they had to remove the board ship it back etc..

 

[HolmanGT]

Not everyone has received the same personal attention that you have. Some have been directed back to their vendor by Evolv, some of those vendors have told their customer the device/board was out of stock. I'm currently going on 2 1/2 months with a open ticket to a China vendor for an over discharged battery pack courtesy of a bad firmware build. So for me it has been a PITA for a very long time trying to get it taken care of.

But I don't think he was complaining any about warranty from Evolv just that it appears to be a trend with the boards just dying as he compared it to the problems of the DNA 40 and if one had to go through the RMA process it could be a big problem if they had to remove the board ship it back etc..

Vlad1,

Yeah I have been listening to your battery problem issues. But like I mentioned I don't think I would even attempt a warranty claim with a Chinese company. Heck it took me three months just to finally receive my VTbox200 from GearBest. The thought of sending it back to them and then waiting for some kind of replacement is just more than I could deal with. i.e. your battery issue, personally I would just pitch the bad battery in the recycle bin and replace it at my own expense (no that is not right but...) avoiding what you have been going thru would be beyond my temperaments ability to deal with.

I don't feel like watching the Fagan Video again but I was more motivated to comment by his statement of the "purchaser being asked to remove the board and send it in" as being something far outside the realm of a normal warranty unless it was a DIY Mod.

As far as Vendors making claims about no stock on DNA 200s I can't speak to that it may or may not be true and just some excuse on the vendors part. Not all the US vendors are all that cooperative when it comes to Warranty issues either. I had a problem with a Hanna DNA 200 and Hana wanted me to trouble shoot it doing things like rebooting (as if I hadn't done that a gazillion times), removing the battery for a time and if I talked real sweet to them they might issue me an RMA... "Really".

Vlad1, I don't know if I can call my personal experience with Evolv on DNA 200 issues as some special personal attention in fact I have two very close friends that have had similar experiences with Evolv and defective units as I have had. So there may be some that have not I can't really speak to that but I would like to think that Evolv has made a complete turnaround since the DNA40 days when it comes to customer support. I could be wrong.

What does concern me a bit is that the Chinese units (many of them) may be using boards that were from and early batch and are just now showing up in the current influx of new Mods. If that is the case we may be seen a higher than expected failure rate do to the period in time that the Chinese purchase their DNA 200 stock of boards.

Heck I don't have any real answers to many of these statistical failure rates but I sure hope it eases up. Again I was moved to post on this issue primarily by Fagan's claiming that the failure rate is high for the DNA 200 and that the consumer would have to remove the board and return it for replacement. I like Fagan but IMHO he needs to tone down his personal opinions about "buy, don't buy, and the process to effect a repair". He does it with the best intentions I'm sure but again my opinion he does sometimes go a little overboard.

Oh - and just to make this the longest post on ECF when Fagan complains about having to use a Windows PC to take advantage of all the DNA 200 features. My reply to that is I can't think of anything worse than trying to set up 8 profiles using three buttons. It is a piece of cake using eScribe and takes about five minutes. Also if you don't have a PC I will be the first to admit that until Evolv comes out with an Apple App. maybe the DNA 200 may not be your best choice.

PS - Vlad1, I really do have empathy for your battery issue and the VTbox200 that went belly up on me I was just going to trash it rather than deal with all the agony of trying to effect a warranty repair with GearBest. Which is why i am very pleased that Evolv offered to repair it for me (even if I was lucky enough to be an exception to the rule which I am not convinced is the case). To close, this is not a debate with you but more in response to "Fagan's" sometimes overly zealous comments.

 

[KenD]

Not everyone has received the same personal attention that you have. Some have been directed back to their vendor by Evolv, some of those vendors have told their customer the device/board was out of stock. I'm currently going on 2 1/2 months with a open ticket to a China vendor for an over discharged battery pack courtesy of a bad firmware build. So for me it has been a PITA for a very long time trying to get it taken care of.

But I don't think he was complaining any about warranty from Evolv just that it appears to be a trend with the boards just dying as he compared it to the problems of the DNA 40 and if one had to go through the RMA process it could be a big problem if they had to remove the board ship it back etc..

And this is a huge problem for us that live in Europe, particularly places that don't have good vape shops. Sending boards back to Evolv is both expensive and a hassle. That's pretty much why I've refrained from getting any of the more expensive mods, particularly US-made ones that can't be ordered from China (free shipping, usually avoidance of customs charges, and yes, better warranties from places like Fasttech). The failure rate of the better cheap China mods doesn't seem to be higher than that of US-made Evolv-powered mods. I still want a DNA 200 mod (with 18650s), but I won't pay much more than $100 for one :-/

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[HolmanGT]

And this is a huge problem for us that live in Europe, particularly places that don't have good vape shops. Sending boards back to Evolv is both expensive and a hassle. That's pretty much why I've refrained from getting any of the more expensive mods, particularly US-made ones that can't be ordered from China (free shipping, usually avoidance of customs charges, and yes, better warranties from places like Fasttech). The failure rate of the better cheap China mods doesn't seem to be higher than that of US-made Evolv-powered mods. I still want a DNA 200 mod (with 18650s), but I won't pay much more than $100 for one :-/

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Ken,

You probably won't have to wait long the 3 - 18650 unit is already selling for around $150 USD. After the new year you will probably find them for much cheaper. Also there seems to be some very reputable UK vendors that you could purchase from.

International Vape purchases are a real PITA.

 

[KenD]

Ken,

You probably won't have to wait long the 3 - 18650 unit is already selling for around $150 USD. After the new year you will probably find them for much cheaper. Also there seems to be some very reputable UK vendors that you could purchase from.

International Vape purchases are a real PITA.

Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for

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[2legsshrt]

I'd wait if I were you 2legs. Here's a review of the Reuleaux, he talks about some things to seriously consider prior to purchasing a DNA200.

19:15 into the video

Thanks Vlad

 

[2legsshrt]

Thanks Vlad

Oh and I think I'm going to stick to my YiHi's for now. I can't do all the cool stuff you can do with the DNA but very dependable and great vape plus with the new FW upgrade Ti is right on and adjustable TCR I am very happy with my 5.

 

[Darkly spectr]

vapnfagan was literally the first time I have ever heard about random deaths. It's that damn fuse on the board. the 25 amp one. 99% of the time when a DNA 200 board dies it's that thing that burned up.

 

[nic_fix]

Hana will say and do anything not to do anything for you after you spend $210. I had to send my v200 to Evolv to fix a bad ground issue. Turnaround time was 6 days.

I know this is old but I am disgusted. I do/did like hana cases. there internals simply suck. I have been up there numerous times. it is perfectly legal to be carrying in Illinois. I am a consummate gentleman by nature. however the presence of it oddly makes most people be very nice. that is actually a shame in fact but whatever. they were plenty helpful at not being helpful. I got a new battery. took it home and charged it. 15 minutes later it exploded. if that was in my face I might not be typing this now.

anyways got lost vape. looks nice. I think it's usb port may be more fragile than hana even. I expect the flash symbol through the battery. not there. don't even know if it is charging. besides that the common battery connector is great. however, you have to peel off the panel at that point. I envision that breaking then. I think they are Chinese. Chinese have done well in this market so I have no complaints there. even though I used to. otherwise the craftsmanship reminds me of a custom mod. perhaps until I go take it apart. if it does not malfunction it is fine. I am betting it does though.

so whom makes a seriously high quality dna 200 mod at this point? I would actually like to go with three 18650's this time. I know that one French sounding one but is it serious quality? the 3d printed stuff I bank is even worse but I have no idea.

guys, I can't keep wasting my money on these. is there one that really stands out? I would really appreciate your guys input in this matter. the dna 200 board is currently the ticket but does anyone put it together with attention? I cannot do it myself. I used to be a machining and electrical master. no longer.

I apologize I have brought up old stuff but I am really getting frustrated with the quality of these things. imo yihi is much worse quality though. they do have an okay board.

thanks

 

[Darkly spectr]

the reuleaux in my opinion is pretty quality. been using mine for a week now and it works perfectly fine. I have ran 200 watts builds on it and it handles it fine.

 

[nic_fix]

it takes 3x18650s? are they in a caddy? how big is it compared to a lipo box? like twice the size? finally, who has one online? I was figuring that is the one but no shop here has one that I know of. so will have to order sight unseen. sorry for so many questions I just need to be really sure what I am getting. on that note can you see inside that the internal workmanship is good? is that made in france by chance? if so it probably is very high quality. thanks

edit: watched fagans review. he looks like a much younger version of me lol. although I think my tats are much nicer imo. anyways I look at the thing plus he said the frame is not strong. that is most likely because there is not much metal there with all those batteries displacing it. or it would be huge. it is much bigger than a lipo box as it stands frm what I can see. all those batteries take plenty to charge too. chargers cannot charge 3 at 1 amp afaik. just not sure. it just does not look like anyone is sinking real money/quality into these. I am not sure if there is accustom one/s. also a 1350mah lipo is pretty much equal to those three 18650's in mah. just can't use it until it is charged. well you can, pass through but you are tethered then. I also don't like the piece over the face of it. it looks like that is probably very thin metal. I need some peoples longer experiences with this one first. the bottom line is all of these seem to be fragile in one area or another. I am tired of lousy usb ports though. which is obviously not a problem on wismec. how come they can make phones fine. it just seems like none of the production options are perfect. oh well. I will just use them until the break I guess. the board unlike Fagan I think is the attraction here. how they put it together is another matter entirely.