DNA 200 Watt

[KTMRider]

I know this is old but I am disgusted. I do/did like hana cases. there internals simply suck. I have been up there numerous times. it is perfectly legal to be carrying in Illinois. I am a consummate gentleman by nature. however the presence of it oddly makes most people be very nice. that is actually a shame in fact but whatever. they were plenty helpful at not being helpful. I got a new battery. took it home and charged it. 15 minutes later it exploded. if that was in my face I might not be typing this now.

anyways got lost vape. looks nice. I think it's usb port may be more fragile than hana even. I expect the flash symbol through the battery. not there. don't even know if it is charging. besides that the common battery connector is great. however, you have to peel off the panel at that point. I envision that breaking then. I think they are Chinese. Chinese have done well in this market so I have no complaints there. even though I used to. otherwise the craftsmanship reminds me of a custom mod. perhaps until I go take it apart. if it does not malfunction it is fine. I am betting it does though.

so whom makes a seriously high quality dna 200 mod at this point? I would actually like to go with three 18650's this time. I know that one French sounding one but is it serious quality? the 3d printed stuff I bank is even worse but I have no idea.

guys, I can't keep wasting my money on these. is there one that really stands out? I would really appreciate your guys input in this matter. the dna 200 board is currently the ticket but does anyone put it together with attention? I cannot do it myself. I used to be a machining and electrical master. no longer.

I apologize I have brought up old stuff but I am really getting frustrated with the quality of these things. imo yihi is much worse quality though. they do have an okay board.

thanks

The v200 is a nice mod but it's pretty much a ripoff of the Evolv beta case. The screen ribbon was pinched and they gave me the runaround for over a week and then just stopped answering my emails. I decided to fix it myself since I had 2 extra DNA200 boards. I contacted Evolv and they sent me a replacement screen the same day. It was working great until a couple of weeks ago and the ohms started reading high. I thought it was my atomizer but it was the same with 5 other atomizers. I sent Hana an email and no response for 4 days. I opened a ticket with Evolv and they told me it was because it didn't have a ground wire. I don't have the proper flux to solder to SS and it only sells in gallon jugs for $75 so I sent it to Evolv. They fixed it and sent it out the same day they received it (I was tracking the package). I do like the v200 but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone just because of the horrible CS from Hana.

My Vaporshark DNA200 is really nice but the button lost it's click, causing intermittent firing and locking while in mid-vape. I just sent that back to VS and they shipped it back the day after they received it (ok, I stalk my packages ). The VS DNA200 is a great mod but it's about the same size as the original Hana boxes so a bit larger than I would like. They also have issues with their online store. There's a lot of guys getting fraudulent charges after ordering from them. I've had it happen to me twice within a month after ordering from them. I ordered a sharkskin from SweetVapes just because I didn't want to cancel another credit card. There are other resellers that carry the VS DNA200 so I would recommend buying from them or getting a prepaid cc to buy off VS's website. They'll probably have a BF or CM sale next week. I still use my VS rDNA40 and VS DNA40.

The only other DNA200 mod I would consider is the Hcigar VT200 (not the VapeCige VTbox200). That looks like a well made mod.

I think the SX350j is a crap board. I had 2 and sold them.

 

[nic_fix]

some people may like whatever box they have. until they come back and report it failed. good cs goes a long way though. it seems like no one currently is building an uber quality dna 200 box. I mean like iwc watch quality. I would gladly pay for it to be done with failures. it now appears that the brand new effusion is not charging. could be from the first batch with bad batteries. this b&m does not move much product. gosh dangit. for what I have wasted on these I could have had a quality $600 box if only they made one. oh, I said the 350j is okay. I would not agree with crap but not very high up there. this really is disgusting. the premier board is not being done justice. I have not had a board fail but if it did I know evolve would take care of it at once. I am not at all upset with the board it is the mods. I am sorry for this rant but this kind of manufacture is simply uncalled for. it seems everyone of these things has issues. this is a very far cry from the aforementioned iwc watches. just sick. sure, we love them all for a week. report back in 3 months please. btw, I have vs and my button is stuck as well! not to mention the rubber flaked off. oh well. I guess it is what it is. just get the one you fancy and another when it fails. at least we are not smoking!!!

 

[Freedom2Vape]

Have you considered using virtual credit cards? Bank of America, Chase, and Citi Bank all offer the ability to create a virtual credit card from your existing card. You can set spending limits and expiration dates on these cards. Mostly you don't have to worry about your actual card number being out there in the world wide web. If I didn't list your bank, you should check with them because odds are good that they offer something like this.

I know that Bank of America locks the card so that once used, it can only be used again at the same site. I've used them and even had a couple stolen, but never had an issue because the preset limit was only a few dollars more than the purchase and would only work at the original site. The fraudulent charges were automatically declined. Just a thought.

 

[Vlad1]

Vlad1,

Yeah I have been listening to your battery problem issues. But like I mentioned I don't think I would even attempt a warranty claim with a Chinese company. Heck it took me three months just to finally receive my VTbox200 from GearBest. The thought of sending it back to them and then waiting for some kind of replacement is just more than I could deal with. i.e. your battery issue, personally I would just pitch the bad battery in the recycle bin and replace it at my own expense (no that is not right but...) avoiding what you have been going thru would be beyond my temperaments ability to deal with.

I don't feel like watching the Fagan Video again but I was more motivated to comment by his statement of the "purchaser being asked to remove the board and send it in" as being something far outside the realm of a normal warranty unless it was a DIY Mod.

As far as Vendors making claims about no stock on DNA 200s I can't speak to that it may or may not be true and just some excuse on the vendors part. Not all the US vendors are all that cooperative when it comes to Warranty issues either. I had a problem with a Hanna DNA 200 and Hana wanted me to trouble shoot it doing things like rebooting (as if I hadn't done that a gazillion times), removing the battery for a time and if I talked real sweet to them they might issue me an RMA... "Really".

Vlad1, I don't know if I can call my personal experience with Evolv on DNA 200 issues as some special personal attention in fact I have two very close friends that have had similar experiences with Evolv and defective units as I have had. So there may be some that have not I can't really speak to that but I would like to think that Evolv has made a complete turnaround since the DNA40 days when it comes to customer support. I could be wrong.

What does concern me a bit is that the Chinese units (many of them) may be using boards that were from and early batch and are just now showing up in the current influx of new Mods. If that is the case we may be seen a higher than expected failure rate do to the period in time that the Chinese purchase their DNA 200 stock of boards.

Heck I don't have any real answers to many of these statistical failure rates but I sure hope it eases up. Again I was moved to post on this issue primarily by Fagan's claiming that the failure rate is high for the DNA 200 and that the consumer would have to remove the board and return it for replacement. I like Fagan but IMHO he needs to tone down his personal opinions about "buy, don't buy, and the process to effect a repair". He does it with the best intentions I'm sure but again my opinion he does sometimes go a little overboard.

Oh - and just to make this the longest post on ECF when Fagan complains about having to use a Windows PC to take advantage of all the DNA 200 features. My reply to that is I can't think of anything worse than trying to set up 8 profiles using three buttons. It is a piece of cake using eScribe and takes about five minutes. Also if you don't have a PC I will be the first to admit that until Evolv comes out with an Apple App. maybe the DNA 200 may not be your best choice.

PS - Vlad1, I really do have empathy for your battery issue and the VTbox200 that went belly up on me I was just going to trash it rather than deal with all the agony of trying to effect a warranty repair with GearBest. Which is why i am very pleased that Evolv offered to repair it for me (even if I was lucky enough to be an exception to the rule which I am not convinced is the case). To close, this is not a debate with you but more in response to "Fagan's" sometimes overly zealous comments.

I don't follow him closely but seen that video and then seen that 2legs was on the fence on the Reuleaux and in question so felt obligated to direct him to it. What I took from the video most was the reliability and potentially higher than expected fail rate and keeping that in mind when purchasing as the RMA process could be a real hassle.

I think between you and your two friends having failures is a good representation of what he was stating with the failures. (less the hassle in the RMA process in your case) As well as all the DNA died posts on the Early Adopters forum.

Removing the boards for warranty, If I recall correctly I've read on their forums of them asking to have the boards removed, as well as a post here on ECF previously with Hcigar DNA 40 earlier this year unless they've changed their warranty process. Hcigar HB DNA 40 anticipation thread

"I just heard from Brandon @ Evolv regarding warranty issues with the DNA 40 boards in these devices beyond the manufacturer's / vendor's warranties..

As long as they're genuine Evolv boards, Evolv will stand by their 1 year warranty. The board will need to be removed from the device before sending it in. I assume that Evolv's general RMA procedure would be followed."

The Profiles, unless I misunderstood and I didn't go back and watch the video either, But I think all he was suggesting was the board should come pre-configured for several of the most common wire types so it wasn't limited to only Ni200 and Kanthal if the consumer didn't have a Windows PC or want to go through the hassle of setting up Escribe they could make use of it right out of the box with most any wire type. Could have misunderstood though like I said. The three button combination does pose limitations as to what can be done directly on the device which is where a menu system would shine.

 

[HolmanGT]

I don't follow him closely but seen that video and then seen that 2legs was on the fence on the Reuleaux and in question so felt obligated to direct him to it. What I took from the video most was the reliability and potentially higher than expected fail rate and keeping that in mind when purchasing as the RMA process could be a real hassle.

I think between you and your two friends having failures is a good representation of what he was stating with the failures. (less the hassle in the RMA process in your case) As well as all the DNA died posts on the Early Adopters forum.

Removing the boards for warranty, If I recall correctly I've read on their forums of them asking to have the boards removed, as well as a post here on ECF previously with Hcigar DNA 40 earlier this year unless they've changed their warranty process. Hcigar HB DNA 40 anticipation thread

"I just heard from Brandon @ Evolv regarding warranty issues with the DNA 40 boards in these devices beyond the manufacturer's / vendor's warranties..

As long as they're genuine Evolv boards, Evolv will stand by their 1 year warranty. The board will need to be removed from the device before sending it in. I assume that Evolv's general RMA procedure would be followed."

The Profiles, unless I misunderstood and I didn't go back and watch the video either, But I think all he was suggesting was the board should come pre-configured for several of the most common wire types so it wasn't limited to only Ni200 and Kanthal if the consumer didn't have a Windows PC or want to go through the hassle of setting up Escribe they could make use of it right out of the box with most any wire type. Could have misunderstood though like I said. The three button combination does pose limitations as to what can be done directly on the device which is where a menu system would shine.

Vlad1,

Without belaboring this too much If Brandon said it was the customers responsibility to remove the board and send it in then I am very disappointed to hear that. Removing a circuit board is typically far beyond the average users abilities.

The other thing I will comment on is the "Three Button" thing. Yes I took Fagan's comments to mean a menu system. While it is a personal dislike a menu system big enough to handle profiles would for me be a monster to navigate. It would be like that "Dcodes" (I think that is the name of that device) Mod out of Europe. I have taken a look at that menu and it is absolutely a maze and I know someone like my self could never use all those features without the menu diagram in front of me - that's for sue.

I won't argue that the "DNA" regardless of model does seem to have a higher than normal failure rate. I have no idea why this seems to be true but I sure won't argue that it is not true. One thing I will say about it is that most if not all boards in the hands of end users are twice removed from Evolv and part of the failures may be do to second party Mod houses not handling the boards correctly. I am talking about things like poor "Anti-Static" handling etc. Actually I have watched some of Phil's video visit to Evolv and I have some concerns about the way they handle the boards also.

Anyway i am glad someone is trying to slow 2legs down a bit I mean 5 SXmini M class units and enough wire of every shape, type and size 2legs has it covered.

Oh - I just remember what I wanted to say about the preconfiguration issue. It could be as simple as Evolv doesn't want to give their blessing to any other wire except Ni200. They are already a little out on a limb health wise with Ni200 and to extend it to other metals may be a limb too thin.

PS - No I am not saying Ni200 is bad for your health nor am i saying it is safe. I really don't know either way. Heck I don't even know if Kanthal is safe.

 

[KTMRider]

some people may like whatever box they have. until they come back and report it failed. good cs goes a long way though. it seems like no one currently is building an uber quality dna 200 box. I mean like iwc watch quality. I would gladly pay for it to be done with failures. it now appears that the brand new effusion is not charging. could be from the first batch with bad batteries. this b&m does not move much product. gosh dangit. for what I have wasted on these I could have had a quality $600 box if only they made one. oh, I said the 350j is okay. I would not agree with crap but not very high up there. this really is disgusting. the premier board is not being done justice. I have not had a board fail but if it did I know evolve would take care of it at once. I am not at all upset with the board it is the mods. I am sorry for this rant but this kind of manufacture is simply uncalled for. it seems everyone of these things has issues. this is a very far cry from the aforementioned iwc watches. just sick. sure, we love them all for a week. report back in 3 months please. btw, I have vs and my button is stuck as well! not to mention the rubber flaked off. oh well. I guess it is what it is. just get the one you fancy and another when it fails. at least we are not smoking!!!

One of the reason I have so many mods. No one makes the perfect mod and having a spare or 6 helps. That's the main reason I started building my own but now there's some nice mods coming out. I can fix most issues that arise but if I need parts, I don't think I should be out of pocket and I don't think it's fair for Evolv to foot the bill for mods that aren't made by them. I do really appreciate that they do and one of the reasons I won't buy a mod w/o an Evolv chip ever again. And it's awesome that they're an American company. Buying those SX350j mods was a lapse of judgement .

This is still a fairly new industry and the volume needed for good R&D just isn't there yet. Some companies do take user input and improve their devices farily quickly though. VS does a pretty good job and they have excellent CS. My rDNA40 is a year old and other than the finish on the fire button wearing off, it's been dead nuts reliable. No issues with the finish. There's a small chip near the battery door but that's it. It looks almost brand new other than the fire button. I'm vaping on it right now as my v200 is charging. My VS DNA40 is about 6 months old and perfect too. I was slightly disappointed that the fire button on my DNA200 went so soon (2 months) but they're taking care of me, including sending me a return label.

I had 3 DNA200 boards and made 1 from a printed case while I waited (im)patiently for VS to release their DNA200. When I found out it would be another 2 months for their release, I ordered the v200 because it was very close to the beta mod. I didn't have a great experience with a previous Hana but wanted to give them a second chance. Boy, did they blow it.

Have you considered using virtual credit cards? Bank of America, Chase, and Citi Bank all offer the ability to create a virtual credit card from your existing card. You can set spending limits and expiration dates on these cards. Mostly you don't have to worry about your actual card number being out there in the world wide web. If I didn't list your bank, you should check with them because odds are good that they offer something like this.

I know that Bank of America locks the card so that once used, it can only be used again at the same site. I've used them and even had a couple stolen, but never had an issue because the preset limit was only a few dollars more than the purchase and would only work at the original site. The fraudulent charges were automatically declined. Just a thought.

I'll have to look into those virtual credit cards. I bank at two of those listed. My credit card company did take care of me but it was a pain in the .... having to cancel the card.

 

[KTMRider]

Vlad1,

Without belaboring this too much If Brandon said it was the customers responsibility to remove the board and send it in then I am very disappointed to hear that. Removing a circuit board is typically far beyond the average users abilities.

The other thing I will comment on is the "Three Button" thing. Yes I took Fagan's comments to mean a menu system. While it is a personal dislike a menu system big enough to handle profiles would for me be a monster to navigate. It would be like that "Dcodes" (I think that is the name of that device) Mod out of Europe. I have taken a look at that menu and it is absolutely a maze and I know someone like my self could never use all those features without the menu diagram in front of me - that's for sue.

I won't argue that the "DNA" regardless of model does seem to have a higher than normal failure rate. I have no idea why this seems to be true but I sure won't argue that it is not true. One thing I will say about it is that most if not all boards in the hands of end users are twice removed from Evolv and part of the failures may be do to second party Mod houses not handling the boards correctly. I am talking about things like poor "Anti-Static" handling etc. Actually I have watched some of Phil's video visit to Evolv and I have some concerns about the way they handle the boards also.

Anyway i am glad someone is trying to slow 2legs down a bit I mean 5 SXmini M class units and enough wire of every shape, type and size 2legs has it covered.

Oh - I just remember what I wanted to say about the preconfiguration issue. It could be as simple as Evolv doesn't want to give their blessing to any other wire except Ni200. They are already a little out on a limb health wise with Ni200 and to extend it to other metals may be a limb too thin.

PS - No I am not saying Ni200 is bad for your health nor am i saying it is safe. I really don't know either way. Heck I don't even know if Kanthal is safe.

That might be just the standard policy they have but if you really don't have the ability to take your mod apart, I'm sure Evolv will help you out. When the DNA200 was in pre-release, they were replacing every board brought up to them even if it was the installer/user's fault. I would really be surprised if they told you to pound sand because you couldn't take the chip out of a mod.

 

[HolmanGT]

That might be just the standard policy they have but if you really don't have the ability to take your mod apart, I'm sure Evolv will help you out. When the DNA200 was in pre-release, they were replacing every board brought up to them even if it was the installer/user's fault. I would really be surprised if they told you to pound sand because you couldn't take the chip out of a mod.

KTM,
I couldn't agree with you more. They are even fixing a VTbox200 for me and they never asked me to remove the board. They said send them the unit and if the board is bad they will replace it and get it back to me ASAP.

I don't know what there warranty policy really is but giving me the opportunity to not deal with GearBest's warranty is a blessing.

 

[nic_fix]

the lost vape seems nice for now. I need help with escribe please. the cells will not charge past 3.88v which I assume is correct. the thing is the battery meter and percent is only at 50% and I am assuming it is fully charged? is there a way to make it show it is fully charged if in fact it is with the cells at 3.88v? otherwise it is not charging past that if it is supposed to for some reason. I know this company had issues with batteries but this does appear to be the second batch that was fixed. those batteries had very low voltage and would not charge at all. if this is indeed fully charged I just need to change the reading on the meter if that is possible. otherwise this thing does look promising. hopefully one of the better ones. if I just need to know 50% is fully charged that is janky but I could live with that.

 

[KTMRider]

KTM,
I couldn't agree with you more. They are even fixing a VTbox200 for me and they never asked me to remove the board. They said send them the unit and if the board is bad they will replace it and get it back to me ASAP.

I don't know what there warranty policy really is but giving me the opportunity to not deal with GearBest's warranty is a blessing.

This is one of the reasons I'm an Evolv fanboy. They really do care about their customers and take care of them.

 

[KTMRider]

the lost vape seems nice for now. I need help with escribe please. the cells will not charge past 3.88v which I assume is correct. the thing is the battery meter and percent is only at 50% and I am assuming it is fully charged? is there a way to make it show it is fully charged if in fact it is with the cells at 3.88v? otherwise it is not charging past that if it is supposed to for some reason. I know this company had issues with batteries but this does appear to be the second batch that was fixed. those batteries had very low voltage and would not charge at all. if this is indeed fully charged I just need to change the reading on the meter if that is possible. otherwise this thing does look promising. hopefully one of the better ones. if I just need to know 50% is fully charged that is janky but I could live with that.

I'm not familiar with Lost vape but it's definitely a faulty battery if it doesn't go above 3.88v. It should be at 4.2v when fully charged. Are all 3 cells showing 3.88v? If you go to the Mod tab in Escribe and click on Manufacturer's Settings, it will show Battery type and capacity. You can also run battery analyzer but it'll take hours.

 

[mackman]

Another thing to look at. In Escribe>mod look at the Discharge profile and see what the cell voltage is at 100%. If down around 3.88V click and hold and raise the value.

 

[Flaskmaster]

I am on my second VT200, the first lasted about 30 puffs before it died. The reseller replaced it and the new one is up to 1680 puffs and so far so good. I got an Aromamizer 6ml tank about the same time and have been playing with both recently.

I finally found a build in the atty that is blowing me away. The only TC wire I have right now is Ni200 and the Aromamizer is a dual coil. I went with vertical 3mm 30 gauge twisted 9 wraps spaced. It is coming in at .051 ohms and I am running it at 40ish watts. Device monitor shows current at 20 amps when I fire it. I think this is current to the atty not battery draw?

Evolv's DNA200 data sheet shows a graph where resistance starts at just below .05 ohms and Steam Engine Mod Range shows a resistance range starting at .041; both are at or to fire 200 watts. If I select 40 watts in SE the resistance range changes to start at .008!

From what I can see I should be OK but what do you think? Is it safe or am I pushing the board or battery too much? I am loving the flavor but I do not want to blow that fuse or have another fail either.

 

[retird]

This is one of the reasons I'm an Evolv fanboy. They really do care about their customers and take care of them.

Some think being called a "fanboy" is a bad thing. Not so, but ECF posters have kinda attached a negative connotation to it. Vapers find what they like, whether it be a device, tank, juice, etc., and it makes their experience what they want. Nothing wrong with that. I guess we all are a fan of certain vape stuff.

I pondered this post after seeing a contradiction (in virtually every DNA thread) in that some post that Evolv has poor customer service, poor board design, making undocumented claims of excessive board issues above the norm by EVOLV and I take those suppositions and compare them to what is actual being seen. I think what we are seeing is a company that has laid all (or most) of their cards on the table for all to see. They have opened a line of communication like no other.

I think Evolv's business model is far and above any out there and would hope that other companies could follow it more. That could make warranty repair/replacement a lot better for the vaping community I think. Just look at the posts about folks not being able to get customer service for a device but you can see customers getting service from Evolv for those products even though Evolv didn't make them.

What really is impressive to me is the fact that Evolv has a forum where one can actually talk with the owners, the engineer, the software guy, and etc. and suggestions by the consumer are actually considered and many implemented.

I came to the realization some time ago that there is no need to try to defend Evolv's technology and business model against Yihi's, or any other. Evolv's business model and technology speaks for itself.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

Vlad1,

The other thing I will comment on is the "Three Button" thing. Yes I took Fagan's comments to mean a menu system. While it is a personal dislike a menu system big enough to handle profiles would for me be a monster to navigate. It would be like that "Dcodes" (I think that is the name of that device) Mod out of Europe. I have taken a look at that menu and it is absolutely a maze and I know someone like my self could never use all those features without the menu diagram in front of me - that's for sue.

A ways OT but just to say the dicodes menu system is really not as bad as it is made out to be. I love Todd but he went way overboard in his review for example. I was a little afraid of it, but it took about 10 minutes to get the hang of it! I now have three of the damn things
and love 'em!

 

[jazzvaper]

For "fanboy" notice the reference to short for fanatic.

There are clear, unmistakable, signals to distinguish the fan from the fanboy or fanatic.

Fanatic never has a neutral connotation.

 

[HolmanGT]

A ways OT but just to say the dicodes menu system is really not as bad as it is made out to be. I love Todd but he went way overboard in his review for example. I was a little afraid of it, but it took about 10 minutes to get the hang of it! I now have three of the damn things
and love 'em!

Steve,

First let me say I am not critiquing the Dicodes functionality to the best of my "hear say knowledge" of the unit it lets you adjust things that no other TC Mod does and if it came with a Dicodes version of eScribe I would probably own three of them myself.

But the Menu system which I am sure works well after spending half the lifecycle of the buttons trying to play around with different setting my OCD would probably say good enough after about a day of click this five times, don't delay too long scroll up three time, don't over shoot by scrolling four times... etc. Actually I am getting anxious just talking about it.

I was just really saying that the onboard menu system is something my personality doesn't get along with. eScribe makes setting parameter on the DNA 200 easier than using the online menu system on my Cable TV. All the complaints about it IMHO come from folks that are Apple Computer users. While I do feel bad that Apple users have some difficulty using eScribe it is not beyond their grasp using it in a Virtual Machine on their OS.

PS - Steve, if you got that Dicodes menu down in 10 minutes you should apply for a Mensa membership.

 

[Freedom2Vape]

I have 2 of these devices and once I understood the menu structure, it actually made sense. It is complicated - but only because of all of the options offered. Most of those options I have set and don't ever anticipate having to change. I set the base menu to a "double click" and primarily use the power up or down now unless I'm going to use TC, which isn't very often.
I admit that when I first started looking at this device, I was intimidated by the menu, but studying the menu diagram helped me understand the placement of the options and an understanding of where/why they placed certain options.

 

[nic_fix]

gee whiz. if it were not for bad I would have no luck. got it less than 24 hours ago. I discharged it. will not charge at all not even with recovery. to add insult to injury dude will not swap it. I drove 183 miles.

I am not sure where the talk of fanboys started. it is hard for me to absorb all this conversation. anyways, I did not know that was a derivative of fanatic. interesting. I thought it meant like mail boy lol. ie, he does the same thing every day. I am too old sorry.

 

[retird]

gee whiz. if it were not for bad I would have no luck. got it less than 24 hours ago. I discharged it. will not charge at all not even with recovery. to add insult to injury dude will not swap it. I drove 183 miles.

I am not sure where the talk of fanboys started. it is hard for me to absorb all this conversation. anyways, I did not know that was a derivative of fanatic. interesting. I thought it meant like mail boy lol. ie, he does the same thing every day. I am too old sorry.

Lots of us older folks around here.....lol

Why won't the dude replace it or at least repair it? Warranty???? What device is it?