DNA 200 Watt

[nic_fix]

thank you steve. I just need to get another 25r. I am not sure how dangerous using one slightly used battery in a three battery configuration is. I gather it is taking a risk but not sure how big that risk is. as for being ripped off it is really my fault for dealing with a known shizer. in fact it might be best to get in the car and go snag three new batteries.

on another topic. how does the 25r compare to the vtc5? I know this is not the thread for this but now I have no batteries for my new mod. just wondering what would be your guys choice for the wisemec since I have to go get them anyways.

other than that from the first looks the wisemec is very nice. it is rather large of course. I am surprised it is made in china. I did not know evolve allowed that. I also they allowed non li-po packs. this might be the ultimate answer to the sx. they made a nice device with a better board in china giving it a fair price.

 

[mackman]

Reading your posts one may assume you have incomplete/inaccurate information regarding batteries/proper usage etc. in order to use your devices safely and to obtain maximum performance.
There are a ton of resources on the ECF and online to further clarify your knowledge.
(9) Battery Basics for Mods; the Ultimate Battery Guide | E-Cigarette Forum
Battery Information Table of Contents, Basic to Advanced

 

[nic_fix]

I have read the first link before. was unaware of the second link. revisiting the first link I see that the Samsung 26f is dangerous and obsolete. figures.
however perhaps I am not so concerned right now. the wisemec is very large and very heavy with cells installed. could have figured this too. interestingly it is also much more powerful at the same settings I use on li-po based mods. I find that very strange since it is the same board(dna200). would make sense with much more power going into it but I would think the dna200 would limit it to what is set. of course it was not really designed for these cells. don't know. I could of course just turn it down but this is disconcerting. perhaps this thing will grow on me. with this amount of power behind it I can see why using a used cell is a bad idea too. just not sure why there is so much more power at the same settings. of course also guzzling juice. maybe you have to turn this thing down and I do not know about it.

is charging this on usb even safe? it has provision for that but I am just not sure about this mod. dna200 was designed for li-po.

for now I might stick with my li-po boxes. smaller,lighter perhaps safer. there is a huge size difference. I got this because in an earlier post someone pointed out it is not much larger than a li-po box. it is considerably larger and much heavier. not sure why it is providing so much power either.

perhaps someone that has one could tell me more about it. it used 5ml of juice in 10 puffs at 55w. it is like a freight train. the usb question is important to me too before I blow up my home.

 

[nic_fix]

it is behaving normally now on full batteries. that was strange. not sure why it was so powerful the first time I used it. it is a big heavy chunk of metal but I can get used to that probably. it is solid.

I was just wondering if the watt hours are set right. 21 something. I have 2500mah batteries. indeed I can see it lasts much longer than a lipo box. obviously.

the inr battery is bad news and I will have to just discard it. lost a lot of money here but honestly my fault to go to this guy. one strange thing is one battery has small print icr and the other two icr have large print. at least they are all Samsung icr. found new battery that saved the day. have to go kick myself for going to that store though. well, all is good just wondering if the wh can go higher. I know, nothing to play with so I will wait for advice here.

edit: it looks like I could go about 28wh? please advise. don't want to blow myself up. I will wait until someone tells me. I am not going to mess with this myself. just used steam engines calculator but seriously do not know what I am doing.

 

[dwcraig1]

^^^ should prove useful:
Discharge profiles for WisMec ReuLeaux - DNA 200 Early Adopters Forum

 

[Aal_]

it is behaving normally now on full batteries. that was strange. not sure why it was so powerful the first time I used it. it is a big heavy chunk of metal but I can get used to that probably. it is solid.

I was just wondering if the watt hours are set right. 21 something. I have 2500mah batteries. indeed I can see it lasts much longer than a lipo box. obviously.

the inr battery is bad news and I will have to just discard it. lost a lot of money here but honestly my fault to go to this guy. one strange thing is one battery has small print icr and the other two icr have large print. at least they are all Samsung icr. found new battery that saved the day. have to go kick myself for going to that store though. well, all is good just wondering if the wh can go higher. I know, nothing to play with so I will wait for advice here.

edit: it looks like I could go about 28wh? please advise. don't want to blow myself up. I will wait until someone tells me. I am not going to mess with this myself. just used steam engines calculator but seriously do not know what I am doing.

Man use 25r, or go get yourself some lg hg2 or samsung 30q. I have no idea what this 26 thing you are talking about. Definitely bad news.

If you have 1 new and 2 old 25r's I say use them half way, then remove them and measure the voltage. If they are 0.1v-0.2v apart I say use them no problem there.

The problem is when a battery goes way down like 2.5v and the other 2 are still over 3v. Then you have a problem.

 

[nic_fix]

thank you dwcraig just what I needed. thank you as well asl. in fact I am good then. batteries are at .02-.03 when they get down to 3.6v. also tested at 3.8v and 3.3v. all good then. that's lucky. yes indeed I read about 26f. it is very bad news. will vent fire. this guy screwed me. like I said my fault really for shopping there when I knew darn well these batteries are not $25 each. plus the bad one goes in the trash. the thing is other choice is to drive a few hours but worth it not to patronize jerks like this. I live in a very rural area and am happy I do. save for the few jerks up here. I really appreciate both of you guys but asl you turned what I figured was bad news into much better news. the third battery was only used 3 or 4 times anyways. as for the one with the small writing may not be legit. this guy is a real bum.

one thing strange is my coil is getting very hot on the wisemec. I chain puff but it does not do that on a li-po box. after the initial strange burst of energy it still seems to have more oomph than a li-po box at same settings. makes sense, there is a lot more power here. still you would think same setings are apples and apples. guess not. I am sure it is working as intended. other than the heft I think this is very nice. as I said before I did not know evolve allowed Chinese manufacture but I am sure I am wrong because it exists and is well regarded. to the reviewer that said he can bend it, perhaps with a vise or he is a gorilla. I really like it.

I really appreciate the help guys.

edit: I do not see 2500mah batteries in that list. I am unable to run the battery analyzer with a resistor. I know how I am just disabled therefore unable to do so. I am guessing safest thing to do then is leave it where it came at. I was hoping I could go higher but not a problem.

two questions, I see in that forum they have 3000mah batteries. I am guessing that is not appropriate for this due to them having lower amperage. unles this is some new battery I do not know about. recommended for this?

second, how do you guys feel about charging this with usb. says it can do it so I am sure it does. bet it takes forever but that is fine. just wondering how you feel about safety with it. once again, due to disability I found putting in the batteries with their anti- reverse polarity rings quite difficult for myself. plus than need 3 more batteries I will probably get mixed with others around here. usb would be my best bet if you guys feel it is safe on this. my new charger has all manner of protection if that helps any. I am guessing it is 1 amp across all three batteries. if anything should take a while.

thank you guys for helping me. I would just rather be safe than sorry. in that regard, tape on the 26f and in the trash already. interested in those 3000mah though.

edit2: see those lg 3000mah are 35 amp! don't know how they managed that. if you guys say they are okay I will certainly go get some.

 

[thomas l]

these are what i use 18650 LG 18650HG2 3000mAh High Discharge Flat Top - Batteries - Batteries, Chargers, and PowerPax Carriers

 

[dwcraig1]

Try this: http://www.filedropper.com/samsung25rprofile
#82 post
Some good info here:
Batteries and chargers

 

[turbocad6]

to solve your cable pinching problem just make a double fold, you can bend this cable as long as you don't bend it right where it joins the glass to ribbon

 

[retird]

Neat beta theme software somebody is working on.....

Custom Theme Image Gen Application - DNA 200 Early Adopters Forum

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

second, how do you guys feel about charging this with usb. says it can do it so I am sure it does. bet it takes forever but that is fine. just wondering how you feel about safety with it. once again, due to disability I found putting in the batteries with their anti- reverse polarity rings quite difficult for myself. plus than need 3 more batteries I will probably get mixed with others around here. usb would be my best bet if you guys feel it is safe on this. my new charger has all manner of protection if that helps any. I am guessing it is 1 amp across all three batteries. if anything should take a while.


edit2: see those lg 3000mah are 35 amp! don't know how they managed that. if you guys say they are okay I will certainly go get some.

I have charged my Reuleaux twice now through the USB charger without any issue. It really didn't take as absurdly long as I thought it would either. The second time it went on the charger overnight since the batteries can go for way over a day at a time it works out nicely. I'm wondering if I should be rotating the batteries though?

 

[nic_fix]

I got the lg 3000mah and for only $7 each. I used the info and curve in the link dwcraig posted. now any time I upload anything from escribe to the mod I get on the mods screen error press up to continue. it is saving everything though as far as I can tell. since when I download the settings from the mod to escribe they are the same as what I saved. any idea why I am getting an error screen now? is this a problem that requires service from evolve or wismec? or just ignore it? hope I did not just wreck the thing. I also hope 3.2v soft cutoff is right since first the guy said much lower. otherwise this is my dream come true. a 9000mah mod with removable batteries! also, Jeremy very good to hear about usb. since that is how I plan to use it. I just hope I did not just wreck the thing with that csv. if anyone could fix the error I would greatly appreciate that. otherwise I am very happy today.

edit; phew. fixed it with hard reboot. right now I am in love with this thing. yes, it is large and heavy but 9000mah and usb charging. gotta love that. I just hope that guys settings are good and do not vent my batteries!

 

[Jeremy Schreiber]

I got the lg 3000mah and for only $7 each. I used the info and curve in the link dwcraig posted. now any time I upload anything from escribe to the mod I get on the mods screen error press up to continue. it is saving everything though as far as I can tell. since when I download the settings from the mod to escribe they are the same as what I saved. any idea why I am getting an error screen now? is this a problem that requires service from evolve or wismec? or just ignore it? hope I did not just wreck the thing. I also hope 3.2v soft cutoff is right since first the guy said much lower. otherwise this is my dream come true. a mod with removable batteries! also, Jeremy very good to hear about usb. since that is how I plan to use it. I just hope I did not just wreck the thing with that csv. if anyone could fix the error I would greatly appreciate that. otherwise I am very happy today.

I can't see uploading the CSV file to cause that error. Someone else will have to chime in on if that is a problem or not. Have you tried hitting disconnect, connecting it again, and then trying to upload something else? The battery curve is only affecting your battery bar on the screen and not the actual run time because the board is monitoring the true voltage of each cell (someone correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure of that).

Regarding your cut off, it really is not a huge deal (some might disagree with me). Worse case scenario you will be increasing or decreasing battery run time by a very small amount and there are associated compromises with having that value higher or lower (e.g., lower soft cut off means less battery life/overall recharges but longer run time before charging). I put mine to 2.9 and didn't notice a huge difference, so I set it back to default at 3.09. In my opinion, having 27+ (theoretically 33.3) watt hours of battery is going to mean that you don't really need to extract every little bit of battery run time out of it.

 

[Wingsfan0310]

Not busting anyone's chops, but as a matter of semantics. When batteries are wired in series the voltage adds, not the current. It's really a 11.1v mod with 3000mah. I think that's why when describing battery capacity (in multi battery mods wired in series), you see watt hours used. 11.1 x 3amp hours = 33.3 watt hours. My Lavabox in comparison is only 900mah so it would be 9.99wh.

 

[nic_fix]

I fixed the error before jeremy. apparently that error happens to some mods, sometimes. you are correct it was not the csv. it is not a broken mod either just a slight bug.

wingsfan I have to think hard now days to understand this but I used to plenty. I just don't want anything to explode is my main goal! I actually did think it was 9000mah that is what some folks were saying on the evolve board. probably wrong. however I am guessing if cutoff and wh are way too high one is asking for trouble. don't know.

meanwhile I am very pleased with this mod thus far. those Chinese are really making great mods now. it is kind of funny to be saying that if you catch my drift.

it will be interesting when it is time to charge this at I am assuming one amp. which indecently will be no time soon I plan on using the usb of course.

already I feel it is not too heavy but hefty indeed. it does fill my hand but the shape was well thought out. credit I guess to whomever jay bo is. don't know the name but I assume he is somebody of note.

so that's all for now. apparently setup good and happy with it. in case anyone wants one please be aware there is a much cheaper version with the joytech chip. this being the dna200 thread I would recommend this one of course. have no idea about the joytech but love dna200. my beat up badly sxm is going in the junk drawer now. this replaces it and then some. as far as non captive battery mods go. I will use my li-po boxes while this is charging though. the fact that this even charges on usb is interesting.

 

[dwcraig1]

The only time I charged my batteries in a stand alone charger for my Wismec DNA200 was the day that I bought them. (and my I-4 took them up to 4.26 volts, not good)

 

[nic_fix]

I did the same with my pila but they were already fully charged. not good either. nitecore is like the worst charger, no wonder it did that. if you ever plan on using a charger you should get a different one. you probably know this already though. you can get an xtar, pretty good not too expensive. I actually like it better than the pila too.

it appears the wismec has no warranty! I hope that is not right. if so that may be a deterrent to some. especially at the price. if that is right that really does kind of stink. knock on wood it does not break. anytime you mess with flashing basically any time you use escribe there is some risk of bricking it. just the nature of flashing eproms. usually no problem but could happen. I imagine in that case though evolve has us covered. perhaps not though if they are at odds with wismec as I might think. there are things about this like china and non li-po that may upset them. have no idea and really hope I do not have to find out. putting the batteries in it I imagine would be difficult for an able person. with one hand of limited use it was pretty hard for me. hence plan to use usb. I like this thing a lot so far but unfortunately I think we are on our own with it. please correct me if I am wrong. honestly I have not been this excited about a mod since like the original evic. at the time I thought that was just amazing lol. do like that cloud thing that is modular and upgradeable but I was just so excited when I saw this sitting in the store. last one too no doubt. he sold all six in five minutes. I think they are sold out most everywhere right now. oh, I saw jay-bo he is actually a fictional character of the minds of tobh I gather! kind of like joe Isuzu lol. if anyone remembers that. I guess I am being a fanboy already. that's okay with me! this hobby gets more interesting every day.

I do commend those of you that built your own. wish I could do that. once upon a time not only was I fully functional I knew something about electronics too. built ham radios back in the day. anyone remember heath kit? I think some of you here are at least like 60. I know this is all ot but somehow the wismec brought back memories for me of the glory days of electronics. well, certainly the diy dna200. wismec is very nice but evolve rocks!

 

[Martnargh]

Been on this efusion as of yesterday. Loving it so far.

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[nic_fix]

effusion is great as well. I really like mine. good li-po in that one. I wanted your color too. got the silver with white fiber. unfortunately on that one I can see ripples in the right light since it is stuck on. I just hope I do not break the panel at the point I have to change the battery. the xt connector is great too. just go to rc shop to get the battery. not like hanna where you are stuck with their battery. I wanted to let you know most of those do not come programmed right on the battery wh. it is too low not giving you full usage. don't know about yours. also be sure to do the update if you have not already. most do not have the latest firmware either. just keep in mind as I said flashing is always a very slight risk. figure you know all this but just in case. otherwise I really like this thing too. I like my color but wanted the one you got. sold out. it seems these hot item mods sell out in minutes. good for shopkeepers I suppose.

I used mikla's app to make a font. worked great. I put it as the secondary. only problem is how do I ever see it? do I have to take out the batteries? I would really like to see it without having to do that. any way? thank you mikla!

with the power this can put out I would like to suggest either the copa drip tip or justhatip competition tip. I know everyone has their preference. these two are special because they have no restriction on a 510. tobh is a different story. you can get a huge chuff for that. the copa also looks very nice on the triton. the justhatip is a little funky depending on what you order plus very pricey. you can just google either if interested. although, martnargh yours looks like it stays chilly cool. too big for me though.