DNA 40 Temp Control - Ni Coils - What is it good for? Better flavor? Cloud chasing? Neither?

[DcMagic]

I am looking at getting a box mod, and I was going to pick up a 70w device. But I keep looking at the Hanna Modz dna 40 for that temp control feature.

Is making Ni coils and using that temp limiter worth while as far as flavor and vapor production? I like the idea of not getting a burnt hit, and I like that its regulated so you get a consistent hit. But What is this set up mainly used for? Flavor chasing or cloud chasing?

Id love to get some info on what to expect from using Ni coils vs Kanthol builds. What are some of the pros and cons.

Its between a 70w device (IPV Mini 2) or a 40w device (DNA 40 with temp control) that can also do Nickel wire builds.. Not sure what I want to go for.

In my mind, going from the mech mod I am using now, I am hoping to be able to adjust the box mod just right to get a more consistent and flavorful vape than what I am currently getting from my mech mod.

Thanks!

 

[Bad Ninja]

Why not adjust your coil build? Same result.
Them check out dual 18650 mechanical boxes for that all day consistent vape.
Angelcigs has one that's not a clone for under $40.
Bam.

 

[DcMagic]

Why not adjust your coil build? Same result.
Them check out dual 18650 mechanical boxes for that all day consistent vape.
Angelcigs has one that's not a clone for under $40.
Bam.

Thanks for the reply. But that's just not what I want. Iv considered every option, and its down to between those two I listed in the op.

Again, thanks anyway!

 

[TorontoOntario]

I wouldn't say it vastly improves either but it just makes everything more uniform and better. I got a nickel build in a Lemo I am vapeing right now as typeing this and my wifes has kanthal. Same juice, wattage, device and build. Mines better. The flavour isn't THAT much better but it is just always the same hit. I love it. Its harder to work with though. I refuse to build for my wife so if she wants to take advantage of this she needs to learn. Soon I aint letting her vape my devices with nickel builds which will force her to learn. I did the same thing with building coils to her lol

 

[DcMagic]

Thanks for the reply. Could I ask why Ni coils are harder to work with in your opinion? Whats the time difference on how long it takes to get one working well vs.kanthal.

And how is the temp control as far as not burning the cotton and lasting longer before needing to be replaced? Can you use Ni longer before it start hitting crappy?

 

[brickfollett]

nickel wires are extremely soft and delicate compared with kanthal. I have a vaporflask DNA40 on the way, and while I already have nickel wires, I have a spool of titanium wire on the way, because I've heard good stuff about it. Just have to lower the temp setting for it. You can use titanium without temp control too based on my readings. I'd spring for a DNA40 myself, evolv makes good stuff, and if I were getting a high watt regulated, I'd be seriously considering the IPV4. My friend has one on the way and I'm excited to test it out

 

[TorontoOntario]

Thanks for the reply. Could I ask why Ni coils are harder to work with in your opinion? Whats the time difference on how long it takes to get one working well vs.kanthal.

And how is the temp control as far as not burning the cotton and lasting longer before needing to be replaced? Can you use Ni longer before it start hitting crappy?

Sorry I didn't respond sooner I make it a point to come back to threads and continue trying to help but my wife had me out working on her car...I digress.

The Ni is much softer and thinner then kanthal so its just difficult to play with but once you get the hang of it it becomes easy. I can do it just as good as kanthal now but the first time building a coil and mounting it in my Lemo took me about 25 minutes. Kanthal I can wrap, mount and wick in like 5 minutes or less.

Yes you can use Ni coils longer then kanthal I believe due to the temp control feature but were it really shines is the wick. You really never get a dry hit or a burnt hit ergo your cotton or rayon never burns up or what have you. I personally haven't re wicked this v2 Tugboat I play with on my Vaporflask since I put it in there around Christmas and that dripper sees the most use out of all my drippers. I easily put 10mls through it DAILY. The wick also looks cleaner whereas sometimes with the kanthal coils I notice my wick looking a bit gross but with the Ni my cotton or rayon stays so clean and fresh looking as well as tasteing.

That's the thing about Kanger releasing extremely low res Ni coils for there subtank (.15 res.) I could see a Subtank coil with temp control lasting like almost forever essentially unless your using like Bobas in it or something else really dark. Ni builds and temp control in general are "game changing" IMO. Its the bees knees, I always get the same temp each pull I take and its amazing.

 

[TorontoOntario]

nickel wires are extremely soft and delicate compared with kanthal. I have a vaporflask DNA40 on the way, and while I already have nickel wires, I have a spool of titanium wire on the way, because I've heard good stuff about it. Just have to lower the temp setting for it. You can use titanium without temp control too based on my readings. I'd spring for a DNA40 myself, evolv makes good stuff, and if I were getting a high watt regulated, I'd be seriously considering the IPV4. My friend has one on the way and I'm excited to test it out

I have builds of both and while I really respect your opinion on the subject I am still going to state mini lol. I like the Ni much better I feel it has no like ramp up time where as the titanium at least my builds took a .5-1 second to heat up if my device had been sitting or whatever. Its no big deal but I personally like Ni better and also if you can handle wraping, mounting and wicking Ni kanthal aint going to be a thing.

 

[brickfollett]

Yeah I can certainly understand the ramp up time argument. That's why I never use my 24 gauge kanthal, although I love using 26 gauge. Fantastic flavor and vapor with the sacrifice of some ramp up time, which is emphasized by the fact that I mostly use the stuff on my reo. I did do my practice coil on the subtank mini in prep for my flask to show up. It was a great opportunity to understand how to wick nickel coils. Did a 15/16 wrap of 30 gauge around a 2.5mm bit for 0.28 ohms. Seems like a reasonable build