do flavorings go bad or lose taste over time?

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gearjunky

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I have a lot of flavorings I use to make my liquids. I have recently noticed some flavorings (mainly my tobaccos) are tasting off. They taste dull and have seemed to lose their bite. Some flavorings are about nine months old. I have so many I can't seem to vape them up so many are just sitting around. And I have a lot of liquids that I made long ago and when ivape them they also seem drab tasting and nowhere good as they were when first made and steeped for a couple weeks or so...not sure if my flavorings are just old or why they are tasting dull? Any info would helpful. And all my flavorings are flavour art, flavor west, signature, flavor express that I purchased online from ecigexpess. I am also adding FA vape Wizard to only my tobaccos, maybe that has gone old on me? Not sure what's the deal, maybe I've just got vapors tongue...lol. Also could it maybe be that my liquid nicotine base has got old? My base is only maybe a few months old...I buy it in 1000 mil jugs...thanks, please advise me if you can !!!
 

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Depends on the juice and how it is stored. Some, ALL, the juices I regularly vape IMPROVE with age. Some like what you find at Walmart and Gas Station often only stay bad or get worse. I have heard of people vaping over 1 year-old Juice. I just ordered some "pre-steeped" juice, was mixed in November. It better have shelf life cause i hope to leave it om mine a few more weeks or months.

Why would bases and flavorings act any different. Some stuff ages differently than others.
 
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JeremyR

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Stop using vape wizard first.... I've used it before, and thought it muted tobaccos.

But yes flavors can go bad, I'm experiencing it right now from vendors who rebottle concentrates, and flavors changing over time.. A year after the concentrates are made the flavor starts to change. And close to two years they are as you describe.
 
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There are two problems with mixed juice storage.

1. Nicotine is fragile and can decay fairly quickly into unpleasant substances.
Nicotine breaks down in the presence of heat or light. The best place to store nicotine is dark and cold. Like the freezer. This however brings up problem 2.

2. Mixed juice (with flavors in it) stores very poorly frozen.
The flavorings are water based and will freeze, which is often not good for all those carefully crafted delicate long chain hydrocarbons.

The result is the only way to store juice for more than maybe a month, is to mix your own. Store the flavoring at room temperature, and the nicotine component in the freezer. I mix nicotine and VG into a 25mg "base" which I freeze in a big squeeze bottle. The PG/VG is an antifreeze so it stays liquid so when I need more juice I pull the bottle out of the freezer, squeeze out about 25ml, add flavoring, and shake.
 

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1. Nicotine is fragile and can decay fairly quickly into unpleasant substances. Nicotine breaks down in the presence of heat or light. The best place to store nicotine is dark and cold. Like the freezer.

I'm sure the freezer is a good place for very long-term nicotine solution storage. But I think you vastly overstate the fragility of nicotine. Have you seen this testing data from a few years back?

Madvapes Blog - Nicotine Concentration Over Time
 
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